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		<title>By: Gorgyf</title>
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		<dc:creator>freestyle bmx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. First off, i would like to say that I am a student at a charter school (ACLC) and I am a little saddened by the anti-charter school mood some of the coments profess. I also want to adress something about Trish Spencer. I understand she does support charter schools and has even substitued at ACLC in the past,however, I do not support her and would not vote for her. Why? Because when the Careing Schools Curriculum was up for vote last May, she asked a question about providing curriclum for race and religous groups. This question was answerd, BUT SHE KEPT ASKING IT! She just wouldn&#039;t stop! The argument with her went on for what seemed like hours, until the board finally voted. I have also seen her do the same or similar things at election debates. I feel with her in office, nothing gets done. I also feel she simply takes the stance of whatever she thinks will get her re-elected. Sorry for the rant, just needed to say my peice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. First off, i would like to say that I am a student at a charter school (ACLC) and I am a little saddened by the anti-charter school mood some of the coments profess. I also want to adress something about Trish Spencer. I understand she does support charter schools and has even substitued at ACLC in the past,however, I do not support her and would not vote for her. Why? Because when the Careing Schools Curriculum was up for vote last May, she asked a question about providing curriclum for race and religous groups. This question was answerd, BUT SHE KEPT ASKING IT! She just wouldn&#8217;t stop! The argument with her went on for what seemed like hours, until the board finally voted. I have also seen her do the same or similar things at election debates. I feel with her in office, nothing gets done. I also feel she simply takes the stance of whatever she thinks will get her re-elected. Sorry for the rant, just needed to say my peice.</p>
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		<title>By: Say What?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Say What?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is quite a bit to digest in that comment #9.  Here are two responses:

In point 2, the author argues “Economic realities for all should take precedence over a small school for a few.”  Based on that argument, it follows that the author will be opposing the Nea charter school application for a “small school for a few” because of its negative economic impact “for all” the students in Alameda.  Is he?

In point 4, the author comments: “equity or quality of educational opportunity. I like the way Trish Spencer answered it best. After all it is not a situation we face, why get stuck on hypothetical?”  My impression was that Trish Spencer dodged and didn’t actually answer the question (which is not a hypothetical question).  Every year there have been budget cuts over the past seven years, that exact issue has come up, as it will in future budget decisions:  Everyone agrees we shouldn’t cut, but we have to.  In deciding what to cut, principles and values such as equity and excellence are applied.  A whole lot of people thought the budget cuts of 2008 were in equitable.  How is that controversy hypothetical?  Why wouldn’t Trish Spencer just say what she thought?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is quite a bit to digest in that comment #9.  Here are two responses:</p>
<p>In point 2, the author argues “Economic realities for all should take precedence over a small school for a few.”  Based on that argument, it follows that the author will be opposing the Nea charter school application for a “small school for a few” because of its negative economic impact “for all” the students in Alameda.  Is he?</p>
<p>In point 4, the author comments: “equity or quality of educational opportunity. I like the way Trish Spencer answered it best. After all it is not a situation we face, why get stuck on hypothetical?”  My impression was that Trish Spencer dodged and didn’t actually answer the question (which is not a hypothetical question).  Every year there have been budget cuts over the past seven years, that exact issue has come up, as it will in future budget decisions:  Everyone agrees we shouldn’t cut, but we have to.  In deciding what to cut, principles and values such as equity and excellence are applied.  A whole lot of people thought the budget cuts of 2008 were in equitable.  How is that controversy hypothetical?  Why wouldn’t Trish Spencer just say what she thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Frances M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think comment #10 is hilarious. How long do you think it should take someone to read your 800,000 word essay? And how many people do you think are committed enough to you and your ideas that they will slog their way through such lengthy blog comments. Do you have any idea how many words you have posted on this thread alone? You should be thanking Eve and her readers for taking you so seriously and actually reading your prodigious verbiage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think comment #10 is hilarious. How long do you think it should take someone to read your 800,000 word essay? And how many people do you think are committed enough to you and your ideas that they will slog their way through such lengthy blog comments. Do you have any idea how many words you have posted on this thread alone? You should be thanking Eve and her readers for taking you so seriously and actually reading your prodigious verbiage.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, DK: You seem to assume, somewhat perplexingly, that I have made the endorsements I made based simply on the fact I know people (though, in fact, I don&#039;t know all the candidates I endorsed) and not because I have watched them at work, agreed with their ideas and positions, and think they have the qualifications for office.

I would add that we ought---one certainly hopes we can---disagree about school board candidates without having to make personal attacks. You think Spencer will serve well on school board; I&#039;m going to cast votes for Mooney, Tam and Forbes. I think they&#039;re most likely to do a good job. I think I&#039;m right; you think you&#039;re right.

While Spencer is sometimes hard to pin down on her opinions---which is one of the reasons I&#039;m choosing not to vote for her---she is a charter school supporter (I fear the financial implications of charters for the district as a whole), she seems to be more open to the closing of small schools than I am (she ranks it high on her list of things to cut), and I have heard her say that she thinks class size reduction in the lower grades is not that important (she said that she had two children go through elementary schools with smaller classes and two go through without, and there are pluses and minuses to both ways). Spencer also doesn&#039;t think that the district should be defending itself against the Measure H suits, which I think it should. I&#039;m assuming that you are supporting Spencer because you agree with these views, and, given that there are likely many Alamedans who hold these views as well, I think you would be better served articulating these positions than attacking those who aren&#039;t endorsing Spencer.

At the end of the day, it is important to remember that we all actually want what is best for the children of Alameda, for our town, for our own health and well-being. And, too, we are all in this together. In the future, in keeping with the policy of the parent organization of this blog, your personal attacks/name calling will not be published on this blog.  Stick to issues. There are plenty of important ones to discuss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, DK: You seem to assume, somewhat perplexingly, that I have made the endorsements I made based simply on the fact I know people (though, in fact, I don&#8217;t know all the candidates I endorsed) and not because I have watched them at work, agreed with their ideas and positions, and think they have the qualifications for office.</p>
<p>I would add that we ought&#8212;one certainly hopes we can&#8212;disagree about school board candidates without having to make personal attacks. You think Spencer will serve well on school board; I&#8217;m going to cast votes for Mooney, Tam and Forbes. I think they&#8217;re most likely to do a good job. I think I&#8217;m right; you think you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>While Spencer is sometimes hard to pin down on her opinions&#8212;which is one of the reasons I&#8217;m choosing not to vote for her&#8212;she is a charter school supporter (I fear the financial implications of charters for the district as a whole), she seems to be more open to the closing of small schools than I am (she ranks it high on her list of things to cut), and I have heard her say that she thinks class size reduction in the lower grades is not that important (she said that she had two children go through elementary schools with smaller classes and two go through without, and there are pluses and minuses to both ways). Spencer also doesn&#8217;t think that the district should be defending itself against the Measure H suits, which I think it should. I&#8217;m assuming that you are supporting Spencer because you agree with these views, and, given that there are likely many Alamedans who hold these views as well, I think you would be better served articulating these positions than attacking those who aren&#8217;t endorsing Spencer.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it is important to remember that we all actually want what is best for the children of Alameda, for our town, for our own health and well-being. And, too, we are all in this together. In the future, in keeping with the policy of the parent organization of this blog, your personal attacks/name calling will not be published on this blog.  Stick to issues. There are plenty of important ones to discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. In the interests of full disclosure: I am friends with Eve. I also know her through the education community. I am also an editor at a national magazine (WebMD) to which she contributes, as a writer. Her reporting and writing skills are top notch. I respect her judgment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. In the interests of full disclosure: I am friends with Eve. I also know her through the education community. I am also an editor at a national magazine (WebMD) to which she contributes, as a writer. Her reporting and writing skills are top notch. I respect her judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David,

Now that you have blasted Eve for being &quot;biased&quot; not only on this blog, but also on ADN, I&#039;d like to point out one error in your logic: Eve is no longer on the AEF board and hasn&#039;t been for months.

Moreover, your assertion that she shouldn&#039;t endorse her &quot;friends&quot; is also illogical. Alameda is small. The &quot;education community&quot; is even smaller. Many of us know each other. Not being able to endorse people because we know them would be very limiting. It would, for instance, prohibit you from endorsing Trish, who I believe you know.

In my own case, I will be voting for Ron Mooney, David Forbes, and Neil Tam. That&#039;s not because I am &quot;friends&quot; with them  (I do know Ron and David, but have met Neil Tam only once and very briefly).

 Instead, I&#039;m voting for Ron because I&#039;ve heard him speak, know his record, and respect his abilities. I&#039;m voting for David because I&#039;ve been watching his actions on the School Board for four years and I think he&#039;s smart and committed and makes good decisions.  And I&#039;m voting for Neil because I was impressed with him at the AEF-PTAC forum and I&#039;m hearing good things about him from people I know and respect.

The fact that Eve was on AEF&#039;s board doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that her opinion is biased, tainted, or otherwise flawed. To the contrary: it may mean that she knows enough about what&#039;s happening in the district to be able to offer an experienced and well-considered opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Now that you have blasted Eve for being &#8220;biased&#8221; not only on this blog, but also on ADN, I&#8217;d like to point out one error in your logic: Eve is no longer on the AEF board and hasn&#8217;t been for months.</p>
<p>Moreover, your assertion that she shouldn&#8217;t endorse her &#8220;friends&#8221; is also illogical. Alameda is small. The &#8220;education community&#8221; is even smaller. Many of us know each other. Not being able to endorse people because we know them would be very limiting. It would, for instance, prohibit you from endorsing Trish, who I believe you know.</p>
<p>In my own case, I will be voting for Ron Mooney, David Forbes, and Neil Tam. That&#8217;s not because I am &#8220;friends&#8221; with them  (I do know Ron and David, but have met Neil Tam only once and very briefly).</p>
<p> Instead, I&#8217;m voting for Ron because I&#8217;ve heard him speak, know his record, and respect his abilities. I&#8217;m voting for David because I&#8217;ve been watching his actions on the School Board for four years and I think he&#8217;s smart and committed and makes good decisions.  And I&#8217;m voting for Neil because I was impressed with him at the AEF-PTAC forum and I&#8217;m hearing good things about him from people I know and respect.</p>
<p>The fact that Eve was on AEF&#8217;s board doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that her opinion is biased, tainted, or otherwise flawed. To the contrary: it may mean that she knows enough about what&#8217;s happening in the district to be able to offer an experienced and well-considered opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David,

I&#039;m going to opt out of getting into an argument about the merits of the school board candidates here. That really wasn&#039;t my point.

My concern, as I expressed in #6, was simply that I felt you were misrepresenting what Ron said at the AEF-PTAC forum. So I wanted to straighten out the record for the sake of the people who weren&#039;t there.

Susan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to opt out of getting into an argument about the merits of the school board candidates here. That really wasn&#8217;t my point.</p>
<p>My concern, as I expressed in #6, was simply that I felt you were misrepresenting what Ron said at the AEF-PTAC forum. So I wanted to straighten out the record for the sake of the people who weren&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: dk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since Wed night you have been refusing to post my reply to Susan&#039;s post #6 - WHY? I have made plenty of attempts, and it still says the post is &quot;awaiting moderation&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Wed night you have been refusing to post my reply to Susan&#8217;s post #6 &#8211; WHY? I have made plenty of attempts, and it still says the post is &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221;.</p>
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