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		<title>By: Big D</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MATT G,
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF MY POSTS. I NEVER EVER SAID THE JT DOESN&#039;T KNOW ANYTHING, WHAT I DID SAY IS THE MY OPINION IS THAT RILEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE PAST TWO STARTS AND THIS ONE TOO, SO THAT LONGSHORE CAN HEAL UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY, PROBABLY JT TOO, CAN SEE THAT LONGSHORE IS NOT 100% HEALTHY AND IT IS HURTING THE OFFENSE, WHICH IN TURN IS HURTING THE TEAM. PLEASE DON&#039;T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND TRY TO MAKE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT I SAID. THIS IS A BLOG, THE BLOG IS FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. NOBODY IS CLAIMING JT SHOULD BE FIRED. I LIKE JT AS THE CAL COACH AND I SAT THROUGH EVERY SECOND OF TOM HOLMOE AS OUR COACH, YOU CAN&#039;T GET ANY MORE PAINFUL THAN THAT. SO HAVE A BEER, SIT BACK AND RELAX DUDE. WHOEVER PLAYS THIS SATURADY NEEDS TO COME THRU AND GET US A FREAKING WIN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MATT G,<br />
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF MY POSTS. I NEVER EVER SAID THE JT DOESN&#8217;T KNOW ANYTHING, WHAT I DID SAY IS THE MY OPINION IS THAT RILEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE PAST TWO STARTS AND THIS ONE TOO, SO THAT LONGSHORE CAN HEAL UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY, PROBABLY JT TOO, CAN SEE THAT LONGSHORE IS NOT 100% HEALTHY AND IT IS HURTING THE OFFENSE, WHICH IN TURN IS HURTING THE TEAM. PLEASE DON&#8217;T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND TRY TO MAKE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT I SAID. THIS IS A BLOG, THE BLOG IS FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. NOBODY IS CLAIMING JT SHOULD BE FIRED. I LIKE JT AS THE CAL COACH AND I SAT THROUGH EVERY SECOND OF TOM HOLMOE AS OUR COACH, YOU CAN&#8217;T GET ANY MORE PAINFUL THAN THAT. SO HAVE A BEER, SIT BACK AND RELAX DUDE. WHOEVER PLAYS THIS SATURADY NEEDS TO COME THRU AND GET US A FREAKING WIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry D, you&#039;re not thinking enough. &quot;Just fix it&quot;? That&#039;s your analysis? As if there&#039;s only one major problem, and JT isn&#039;t fixing it? If JT doesn&#039;t have even That much &quot;common sense,&quot; as you say, then why not fire his incompetent butt and get someone with a functioning brain cell? I think Dorrell will be available next season...

All this knee-jerk, Tedford-doesn&#039;t-know-crap-and-I-do nonsense is just typical fooball fan backup QB lovefest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry D, you&#8217;re not thinking enough. &#8220;Just fix it&#8221;? That&#8217;s your analysis? As if there&#8217;s only one major problem, and JT isn&#8217;t fixing it? If JT doesn&#8217;t have even That much &#8220;common sense,&#8221; as you say, then why not fire his incompetent butt and get someone with a functioning brain cell? I think Dorrell will be available next season&#8230;</p>
<p>All this knee-jerk, Tedford-doesn&#8217;t-know-crap-and-I-do nonsense is just typical fooball fan backup QB lovefest.</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blah Blah blah. You think too much. If it&#039;s broke, fix it. period. Nate can&#039;t set his feet because he is injured, he has demonstrated that for two weeks now. EVERYBODY sees it from the film room, Row 56, TV booth, whatever. It&#039;s not rocket science, it&#039;s COMMON SENSE, either you have it or you don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah Blah blah. You think too much. If it&#8217;s broke, fix it. period. Nate can&#8217;t set his feet because he is injured, he has demonstrated that for two weeks now. EVERYBODY sees it from the film room, Row 56, TV booth, whatever. It&#8217;s not rocket science, it&#8217;s COMMON SENSE, either you have it or you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: AB</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>AB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is middle ground between &quot;shoring up&quot; and &quot;dynamiting&quot; - the all or nothing arguments are tiresome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is middle ground between &#8220;shoring up&#8221; and &#8220;dynamiting&#8221; &#8211; the all or nothing arguments are tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I for one certainly never said &quot;JT is a pro, therefore he is right.&quot; Nor am I interested in &quot;moral victories.&quot; Thanks to JT those days at Cal are gone.

What I did try to do is point out a couple important things. As a pro who is immersed in the details of the team, including extensive film reviews of every snap, JT has a lot more information than we do. Does that guarantee that he&#039;s right? Of course not. But IMO it casts a dubious shadow on comments that essentially say &quot;I can CLEARLY see &#039;x&#039; from row 56 watching the team one afternoon per week, so why can JT NOT see the same &#039;x&#039; with all that film all week long?&quot; Maybe it&#039;s not so much about what he&#039;s missing that we see - maybe it&#039;s at least partly about how much more he sees than we fans do.

JT still thinks Nate gives us the best chance to win. It is certainly within fan purview to opine that he is wrong and that Riley gives us a better chance to win. But I think he&#039;s in a better position to make that call, understanding more of what goes into that decision than most of us and being closer to the athletes in question for evaluation. The dude is not above mistakes, but his going-on-six-year track record is positive enough IMO to let him keep driving for a while without demanding big changes tat he doesn;t think will help.

Besides, too much has gone wrong with this team these past 3 games to hang it all on Nate. Yes, Longshore must shoulder his fair share of the blame - he&#039;s been far from stellar. But so does OL blocking, ST coverages &amp; kicking (in-)effectiveness, and a seive-like defense. 2 of the 3 losses have been close &amp; JT thinks some of it is correctable.

Attempting the corrections is probably better at this point than sending the signal that the team is bad (when they still have a shot at a 9-3 season) by voluntarily departing wholesale from schemes and/or personnel.

This is not &quot;doing the same thing over and expecting different results.&quot; It&#039;s simply shoring up a sinking foundation rather than dynamiting it and rebuilding mid-season.

And given that JT believes the wall needs only some shoring up and not full reconstruction, that makes sense to me. That is my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I for one certainly never said &#8220;JT is a pro, therefore he is right.&#8221; Nor am I interested in &#8220;moral victories.&#8221; Thanks to JT those days at Cal are gone.</p>
<p>What I did try to do is point out a couple important things. As a pro who is immersed in the details of the team, including extensive film reviews of every snap, JT has a lot more information than we do. Does that guarantee that he&#8217;s right? Of course not. But IMO it casts a dubious shadow on comments that essentially say &#8220;I can CLEARLY see &#8216;x&#8217; from row 56 watching the team one afternoon per week, so why can JT NOT see the same &#8216;x&#8217; with all that film all week long?&#8221; Maybe it&#8217;s not so much about what he&#8217;s missing that we see &#8211; maybe it&#8217;s at least partly about how much more he sees than we fans do.</p>
<p>JT still thinks Nate gives us the best chance to win. It is certainly within fan purview to opine that he is wrong and that Riley gives us a better chance to win. But I think he&#8217;s in a better position to make that call, understanding more of what goes into that decision than most of us and being closer to the athletes in question for evaluation. The dude is not above mistakes, but his going-on-six-year track record is positive enough IMO to let him keep driving for a while without demanding big changes tat he doesn;t think will help.</p>
<p>Besides, too much has gone wrong with this team these past 3 games to hang it all on Nate. Yes, Longshore must shoulder his fair share of the blame &#8211; he&#8217;s been far from stellar. But so does OL blocking, ST coverages &#038; kicking (in-)effectiveness, and a seive-like defense. 2 of the 3 losses have been close &#038; JT thinks some of it is correctable.</p>
<p>Attempting the corrections is probably better at this point than sending the signal that the team is bad (when they still have a shot at a 9-3 season) by voluntarily departing wholesale from schemes and/or personnel.</p>
<p>This is not &#8220;doing the same thing over and expecting different results.&#8221; It&#8217;s simply shoring up a sinking foundation rather than dynamiting it and rebuilding mid-season.</p>
<p>And given that JT believes the wall needs only some shoring up and not full reconstruction, that makes sense to me. That is my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather have a healthy yet green QB, then a gimpy experienced QB. That is MY opinion. We lost 2 games already with a gimpy QB, so that should provide some common sense to try something new and see if you can get a different result, then the same old tired thing and get the same result,loses.
Plus, the NFL is full of &quot;professional coaches&quot; who lose, so the &quot;JT is a pro, therefore he is right&quot; doesn&#039;t add up. Sorry, no moral victory. Produce wins or step aside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have a healthy yet green QB, then a gimpy experienced QB. That is MY opinion. We lost 2 games already with a gimpy QB, so that should provide some common sense to try something new and see if you can get a different result, then the same old tired thing and get the same result,loses.<br />
Plus, the NFL is full of &#8220;professional coaches&#8221; who lose, so the &#8220;JT is a pro, therefore he is right&#8221; doesn&#8217;t add up. Sorry, no moral victory. Produce wins or step aside.</p>
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		<title>By: Cal Alum '63</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal Alum '63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been a Cal fan and alum for years. As a True Blue, I don’t require that the Bears win every game. I do expect that they play smart.  And playing injured players when there are adequate backups is not only stupid but also dangerous and detrimental to the student athletes.

My frustrations are with the highly paid coaches, not the hard working and dedicated student athletes.  Rulon Davis is a case in point.  He was out four games with a sprained foot. He practices one week and his first game back he plays almost four quarters, way too much, and now he has a knee injury.

Another case is Nate Longshore. Dedicated and hardworking… and injured.  He looked like he was out there with leg irons during the UCLA and Arizona State games. A sitting duck taking big shots from the pass rush. Not to negate his stellar effort and some shining moments, but his passing was inaccurate and erratic when the Bears needed it the most (mainly on 3rd down) and the results were momentum breaking. Tedford said he asked Nate how he was feeling and he got an “OK” from a guy who was toughing it out. What else could Nate say? Was Mr. Tedford even watching the game? A casual glance screamed that the guy should not be on the field.

To make matters worse, playing Longshore is not the only option. Kevin Riley is the most exciting Cal QB I have seen in decades. He is smart, quick, tenacious, accurate, strong and consistent. I expect he will be the best QB in Cal history if he is not ignored out of the program first. I attribute his few problems during the Oregon State game to coaching, or the lack therof.  First of all, it was his first game (one cannot count the few meaningless snaps in the previous games) as Jeff “Throw them in there to see what happens” Tedford seems unwilling to cross train backup QBs with actual game experience (e.g. Ayoob, Levy).  Second, when it comes to clock management under pressure, it is the coach’s job to communicate (and Tedford admitted failing to do just that).

Finally, do we notice a pattern here?  Last year mid-season Cal made only 1 offensive touchdown during each of the Wash, UCLA, Arizona, and USC games… Are mid-season melt-downs built into the program?  Over training, leaving the game day energy back on the practice field?  Or under preparation?   It is the coaching staff’s job to give thoughtful attention to this problem, not lay it onto the players with the newspaper reporters like they have in the last two weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a Cal fan and alum for years. As a True Blue, I don’t require that the Bears win every game. I do expect that they play smart.  And playing injured players when there are adequate backups is not only stupid but also dangerous and detrimental to the student athletes.</p>
<p>My frustrations are with the highly paid coaches, not the hard working and dedicated student athletes.  Rulon Davis is a case in point.  He was out four games with a sprained foot. He practices one week and his first game back he plays almost four quarters, way too much, and now he has a knee injury.</p>
<p>Another case is Nate Longshore. Dedicated and hardworking… and injured.  He looked like he was out there with leg irons during the UCLA and Arizona State games. A sitting duck taking big shots from the pass rush. Not to negate his stellar effort and some shining moments, but his passing was inaccurate and erratic when the Bears needed it the most (mainly on 3rd down) and the results were momentum breaking. Tedford said he asked Nate how he was feeling and he got an “OK” from a guy who was toughing it out. What else could Nate say? Was Mr. Tedford even watching the game? A casual glance screamed that the guy should not be on the field.</p>
<p>To make matters worse, playing Longshore is not the only option. Kevin Riley is the most exciting Cal QB I have seen in decades. He is smart, quick, tenacious, accurate, strong and consistent. I expect he will be the best QB in Cal history if he is not ignored out of the program first. I attribute his few problems during the Oregon State game to coaching, or the lack therof.  First of all, it was his first game (one cannot count the few meaningless snaps in the previous games) as Jeff “Throw them in there to see what happens” Tedford seems unwilling to cross train backup QBs with actual game experience (e.g. Ayoob, Levy).  Second, when it comes to clock management under pressure, it is the coach’s job to communicate (and Tedford admitted failing to do just that).</p>
<p>Finally, do we notice a pattern here?  Last year mid-season Cal made only 1 offensive touchdown during each of the Wash, UCLA, Arizona, and USC games… Are mid-season melt-downs built into the program?  Over training, leaving the game day energy back on the practice field?  Or under preparation?   It is the coaching staff’s job to give thoughtful attention to this problem, not lay it onto the players with the newspaper reporters like they have in the last two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sad</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2007/10/30/tuesday-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator>Sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think people here are professing to know more than JT.  He is the &quot;pro.&quot;  Being the &quot;pro&quot; does not mean all your decisions are right.  Maybe Riley would come in and flop.  Who knows?  Maybe Longshore is the better QB still.  The point is that Nate IS injured. You can see it as he hobbles around and you can see it when he underthrows DJ by 10 yards.  I don&#039;t get why JT does not at least acknowledge that he is less than 100%.  To say he is moving fine I thinks frustrates those watching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people here are professing to know more than JT.  He is the &#8220;pro.&#8221;  Being the &#8220;pro&#8221; does not mean all your decisions are right.  Maybe Riley would come in and flop.  Who knows?  Maybe Longshore is the better QB still.  The point is that Nate IS injured. You can see it as he hobbles around and you can see it when he underthrows DJ by 10 yards.  I don&#8217;t get why JT does not at least acknowledge that he is less than 100%.  To say he is moving fine I thinks frustrates those watching.</p>
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		<title>By: AB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JT may be the pro, but we&#039;ve seen this before.  It was clear in 05 that Levy gave Cal the best chance to win and JT stuck with Ayoob too long, costing Cal a couple of wins.  You don&#039;t have to be a coach to see what is obvious:  Longshore is not healthy enough and not playing well enough for Cal to be successful.

Maybe Riley will be better and maybe he won&#039;t, but at least he will get valuable experience for next year when Cal is trying to make another BCS run.  You don&#039;t want him getting that experience when every game is critical, so get it now.  Additionally, more experience for Riley gives him a chance to beat Nate out for the job next year - and healthy competition will make the whole team better.

If nothing else, this program needs something to get excited about and rally around...Riley offers that possibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JT may be the pro, but we&#8217;ve seen this before.  It was clear in 05 that Levy gave Cal the best chance to win and JT stuck with Ayoob too long, costing Cal a couple of wins.  You don&#8217;t have to be a coach to see what is obvious:  Longshore is not healthy enough and not playing well enough for Cal to be successful.</p>
<p>Maybe Riley will be better and maybe he won&#8217;t, but at least he will get valuable experience for next year when Cal is trying to make another BCS run.  You don&#8217;t want him getting that experience when every game is critical, so get it now.  Additionally, more experience for Riley gives him a chance to beat Nate out for the job next year &#8211; and healthy competition will make the whole team better.</p>
<p>If nothing else, this program needs something to get excited about and rally around&#8230;Riley offers that possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think some of you are missing Tedford&#039;s point. He said Nate&#039;s poor play was a combination of getting hit (what QB doesn&#039;t look bad when he&#039;s on his butt?) which is on the blockers, and not stepping fully into the pocket when under pressure which is on Nate.

As to the injury, JT doesn&#039;t think Nate is &quot;clearly gimpy&quot; in a way that ruins his performance. Some armchair QB&#039;s think Nate is. Hmmm... I&#039;ll stick with the opinion of the dude who does this for a living, spends more time with Nate than anyone, and has access to a full training staff.

As to the pressure, Riley would get the same since it&#039;s the same O Line and backs blocking.

As to the stepping into the pocket to throw better, yes that&#039;s on Nate. But that alone is no reason to replace all of his veteran leadership with a kid who has 1 D-1 game under his belt.

And as to Nate&#039;s ankle being blood in the water for sharky defenses... what, you don&#039;t think a green freshman QB with no experience isn&#039;t blood in the water!?!?

Get real Cal fans. Nate&#039;s pereformance is as disappointing to me as it is to anyone, and I&#039;ll be the first to say I expect more from him as a Junior. However, JT still thinks Nate gives us out best chance to win, and I&#039;m inclined to agree with the pro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of you are missing Tedford&#8217;s point. He said Nate&#8217;s poor play was a combination of getting hit (what QB doesn&#8217;t look bad when he&#8217;s on his butt?) which is on the blockers, and not stepping fully into the pocket when under pressure which is on Nate.</p>
<p>As to the injury, JT doesn&#8217;t think Nate is &#8220;clearly gimpy&#8221; in a way that ruins his performance. Some armchair QB&#8217;s think Nate is. Hmmm&#8230; I&#8217;ll stick with the opinion of the dude who does this for a living, spends more time with Nate than anyone, and has access to a full training staff.</p>
<p>As to the pressure, Riley would get the same since it&#8217;s the same O Line and backs blocking.</p>
<p>As to the stepping into the pocket to throw better, yes that&#8217;s on Nate. But that alone is no reason to replace all of his veteran leadership with a kid who has 1 D-1 game under his belt.</p>
<p>And as to Nate&#8217;s ankle being blood in the water for sharky defenses&#8230; what, you don&#8217;t think a green freshman QB with no experience isn&#8217;t blood in the water!?!?</p>
<p>Get real Cal fans. Nate&#8217;s pereformance is as disappointing to me as it is to anyone, and I&#8217;ll be the first to say I expect more from him as a Junior. However, JT still thinks Nate gives us out best chance to win, and I&#8217;m inclined to agree with the pro.</p>
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