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		<title>By: T_Hill_Hugger</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/09/27/postgame-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-3791</link>
		<dc:creator>T_Hill_Hugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JGMD is the MAN!

You are so dead on re: WRs needing to man up out there, not to mention Riley needing more time after OSU in 07 but that was then.  I DO like your thinking though...

JUst wonder if anyone is wondering if the BIG GAME might be BIG this year or what?  Hate saying it but Harbaugh has something going on down at the Farm...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JGMD is the MAN!</p>
<p>You are so dead on re: WRs needing to man up out there, not to mention Riley needing more time after OSU in 07 but that was then.  I DO like your thinking though&#8230;</p>
<p>JUst wonder if anyone is wondering if the BIG GAME might be BIG this year or what?  Hate saying it but Harbaugh has something going on down at the Farm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jan K:

I&#039;ve read your posts for 2 years now---while I&#039;ve always questioned your football knowledge (I can&#039;t believe some of the misinformation/misguided analysis you have promulgated from time-to-time), I didn&#039;t know that you also set the rules for posting on this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan K:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read your posts for 2 years now&#8212;while I&#8217;ve always questioned your football knowledge (I can&#8217;t believe some of the misinformation/misguided analysis you have promulgated from time-to-time), I didn&#8217;t know that you also set the rules for posting on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Teff EdFord (also from Concord)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teff EdFord (also from Concord)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t look like Riley was stepping into his passes, and they were off as a result. Perhaps the deal was tha if you replace a 3-yr. started in his senior season, you&#039;d better be good, and so far, he hasn&#039;t gotten there yet. Timing with the receivers is one thing, but it looked like his form was off. Unless he melts in practive, I think he&#039;ll start again...Tedford probably doesn&#039;t want to give Riley the same treatment as Nate got last year and will bench him sooner. I dind&#039;t expect all that much this year anyway, the QB-receiver thing takes a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t look like Riley was stepping into his passes, and they were off as a result. Perhaps the deal was tha if you replace a 3-yr. started in his senior season, you&#8217;d better be good, and so far, he hasn&#8217;t gotten there yet. Timing with the receivers is one thing, but it looked like his form was off. Unless he melts in practive, I think he&#8217;ll start again&#8230;Tedford probably doesn&#8217;t want to give Riley the same treatment as Nate got last year and will bench him sooner. I dind&#8217;t expect all that much this year anyway, the QB-receiver thing takes a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan K Oski</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/09/27/postgame-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan K Oski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric, I come on here to read long stories by JO, not other Bear fans.  I do the later on one other forum, BearInsider, where that is appropriate and real dialog can take place. So, skipping most of your lengthy essay, I&#039;ll respond to this, &quot;Riley is getting this team to win. Even with Maryland... Riley gave the team hope of winning.&quot;  Are you serious? Cal lost to Maryland which was a team failure, but Riley didn&#039;t pull off a win.  Hope is one thing, and a Win is a completely different matter.  Ask any player about hope and you might be a victim of sorts. But, I&#039;m glad we agree that competition is a good thing.  Go Bears!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I come on here to read long stories by JO, not other Bear fans.  I do the later on one other forum, BearInsider, where that is appropriate and real dialog can take place. So, skipping most of your lengthy essay, I&#8217;ll respond to this, &#8220;Riley is getting this team to win. Even with Maryland&#8230; Riley gave the team hope of winning.&#8221;  Are you serious? Cal lost to Maryland which was a team failure, but Riley didn&#8217;t pull off a win.  Hope is one thing, and a Win is a completely different matter.  Ask any player about hope and you might be a victim of sorts. But, I&#8217;m glad we agree that competition is a good thing.  Go Bears!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jan K,

I respectfully disagree with your assessment.  Last year, Nate played on an injured ankle, which further limited his already limited mobility.  It was entirely nuts for Tedford to refuse to have worked Riley into the lineup.  To compare that situation to this season makes no sense.

Looking at this season, Riley was inconsistent at the start of the Maryland game, though he obviously picked it up tremendously in the second half; for that reason alone, I entiely disagree with the notion that Riley is not separating himself from Nate based on the last two performances.  A comparative game is Tennessee in 2006 - there, Nate bombed for us, and it was Ayoob who actually made enough plays that Tennessee had re-insert its starting offense and defense in the 4th quarter.

He also was less than adequate against Washington State (other than his 27 yard scamper for a TD - you think Nate could have done that?) and Colorado State, but in both games the sui generis touchdowns in the first half of each game made the games over at half time, such that there was no need for Riley to do anything and it is impossible to judge his performance.  When you are up by six touchdowns, why would you ask your starting QB to make throws.  Why even risk injury?

In any event, both blowouts gave Nate an opportunity to play meaningful minutes, which is a good thing, and I&#039;ll admit that Nate has played well.  I actually like letting Nate make competitive plays in these blowout games, because I do think it will build confidence so that if he is required to step up in a critical circumstance, he will.

The best measure of the QBs this season has been Michigan State.  Riley was not perfect, but he was damn good against a good team (which is making noise in the Big-10).  Nate played two series in that game when the game was still very much on the line.  The first series, Nate did ok, but then threw a horrible pass in the end zone.  The second series was even worse.  When the ABC announcers - who generally are the last to know anything about football - are asking why Nate would have thrown into quadruple coverage, that tells you something.

Last point - the intangibles.  Nate has consistently proven that he makes poor decisions at critical times.  We all know about the 4th quarter INT/TD ratio.  And remember, Nate had the benefit of three senior/junior receivers and one senior tight end last year.  When Riley had that same set, he played extremely well (and I include the Oregon State game, when you consider that Oregon State last year had the best run defense in the conference).

Riley is getting this team to win.  Even with Maryland - who is now looking like a legitimate ACC contenders, notwithstanding the Middle TN State loss - Riley gave the team hope of winning.

I do agree that if Riley makes poor decisions during the ASU game over several series, I see no harm letting Nate play a series or two.  And, obviously, if Riley is hurt, Nate should play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan K,</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree with your assessment.  Last year, Nate played on an injured ankle, which further limited his already limited mobility.  It was entirely nuts for Tedford to refuse to have worked Riley into the lineup.  To compare that situation to this season makes no sense.</p>
<p>Looking at this season, Riley was inconsistent at the start of the Maryland game, though he obviously picked it up tremendously in the second half; for that reason alone, I entiely disagree with the notion that Riley is not separating himself from Nate based on the last two performances.  A comparative game is Tennessee in 2006 &#8211; there, Nate bombed for us, and it was Ayoob who actually made enough plays that Tennessee had re-insert its starting offense and defense in the 4th quarter.</p>
<p>He also was less than adequate against Washington State (other than his 27 yard scamper for a TD &#8211; you think Nate could have done that?) and Colorado State, but in both games the sui generis touchdowns in the first half of each game made the games over at half time, such that there was no need for Riley to do anything and it is impossible to judge his performance.  When you are up by six touchdowns, why would you ask your starting QB to make throws.  Why even risk injury?</p>
<p>In any event, both blowouts gave Nate an opportunity to play meaningful minutes, which is a good thing, and I&#8217;ll admit that Nate has played well.  I actually like letting Nate make competitive plays in these blowout games, because I do think it will build confidence so that if he is required to step up in a critical circumstance, he will.</p>
<p>The best measure of the QBs this season has been Michigan State.  Riley was not perfect, but he was damn good against a good team (which is making noise in the Big-10).  Nate played two series in that game when the game was still very much on the line.  The first series, Nate did ok, but then threw a horrible pass in the end zone.  The second series was even worse.  When the ABC announcers &#8211; who generally are the last to know anything about football &#8211; are asking why Nate would have thrown into quadruple coverage, that tells you something.</p>
<p>Last point &#8211; the intangibles.  Nate has consistently proven that he makes poor decisions at critical times.  We all know about the 4th quarter INT/TD ratio.  And remember, Nate had the benefit of three senior/junior receivers and one senior tight end last year.  When Riley had that same set, he played extremely well (and I include the Oregon State game, when you consider that Oregon State last year had the best run defense in the conference).</p>
<p>Riley is getting this team to win.  Even with Maryland &#8211; who is now looking like a legitimate ACC contenders, notwithstanding the Middle TN State loss &#8211; Riley gave the team hope of winning.</p>
<p>I do agree that if Riley makes poor decisions during the ASU game over several series, I see no harm letting Nate play a series or two.  And, obviously, if Riley is hurt, Nate should play.</p>
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		<title>By: Calduke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no quarterback controversy;
There is a quarterback problem]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no quarterback controversy;<br />
There is a quarterback problem</p>
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		<title>By: toparchitect</title>
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		<dc:creator>toparchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Tedford change QB is to have the second QB some chance to play, since Cal is leading 28-0 late in the third.  Actually almost the secondary team was in there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tedford change QB is to have the second QB some chance to play, since Cal is leading 28-0 late in the third.  Actually almost the secondary team was in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan K Oski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan K Oski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Big D.  I think people aren&#039;t realizing that Riley is a perfectionist, and Tedford benched him, because this aspect was getting in his way of performing to expectations.  Did anyone see how wide-open Young was on that dropped TD pass?  Why did Riley deliver the ball at the back of the endzone?  Young had created space between the DBs long before that.  That&#039;s just one example and there were more if you watch the game, again. Riley needs to let the ball fly. I guarantee he will back in there against ASU, but Longshore will get a chance, if Riley continues to sputter.  This is exactly what so many people called for last year, open and fair competition.  Yet, some of you are blind to the fact that Riley isn&#039;t doing separating himself from Longshore with his last 2 performances.  Forunately, our D and specific individuals are keeping this ship afloat.  Unfortunately, we will need a QB to step forward to help stear the ship to the level of Oregon State.

GO BEARS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Big D.  I think people aren&#8217;t realizing that Riley is a perfectionist, and Tedford benched him, because this aspect was getting in his way of performing to expectations.  Did anyone see how wide-open Young was on that dropped TD pass?  Why did Riley deliver the ball at the back of the endzone?  Young had created space between the DBs long before that.  That&#8217;s just one example and there were more if you watch the game, again. Riley needs to let the ball fly. I guarantee he will back in there against ASU, but Longshore will get a chance, if Riley continues to sputter.  This is exactly what so many people called for last year, open and fair competition.  Yet, some of you are blind to the fact that Riley isn&#8217;t doing separating himself from Longshore with his last 2 performances.  Forunately, our D and specific individuals are keeping this ship afloat.  Unfortunately, we will need a QB to step forward to help stear the ship to the level of Oregon State.</p>
<p>GO BEARS!</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ASU coming up next... Go Bears!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASU coming up next&#8230; Go Bears!</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go Bears!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Bears!</p>
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