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		<title>By: Goldiebear</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/10/05/arizona-state-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-3941</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldiebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rankings are like a ladder. Thr higher you get, the better off you are should you lose a game. But if you lose more than three games, it really doesn&#039;t matter because you probably wont be ranked at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rankings are like a ladder. Thr higher you get, the better off you are should you lose a game. But if you lose more than three games, it really doesn&#8217;t matter because you probably wont be ranked at all.</p>
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		<title>By: toparchitect</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/10/05/arizona-state-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>toparchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

The difference is that M.S. currently a 5-1, even they lost to Cal.  They have more wins.

The ranking right now doesn&#039;t mean anything.  What the out comes at end really counts.

CAL may move up to top 10, if they can remain unbeaten from now on, which means 11-1, Well hopeful, but, tough to get.

Given that OSU can get by SC.  Anything is possible this year. And, who would predicted Arizona can be 4-1, but, they are on the roll, maybe even 5-1 after this week at Stanford.  And, May even rank in the 20&#039;s higher than Cal, could become a showdown of two ranked team next week with CAL.

Any how, the bears must be stronger on offense to be even rank higher, in my opinion.

Go Bears!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>The difference is that M.S. currently a 5-1, even they lost to Cal.  They have more wins.</p>
<p>The ranking right now doesn&#8217;t mean anything.  What the out comes at end really counts.</p>
<p>CAL may move up to top 10, if they can remain unbeaten from now on, which means 11-1, Well hopeful, but, tough to get.</p>
<p>Given that OSU can get by SC.  Anything is possible this year. And, who would predicted Arizona can be 4-1, but, they are on the roll, maybe even 5-1 after this week at Stanford.  And, May even rank in the 20&#8242;s higher than Cal, could become a showdown of two ranked team next week with CAL.</p>
<p>Any how, the bears must be stronger on offense to be even rank higher, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Go Bears!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/10/05/arizona-state-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I understand your point but in a situation where each team has one loss and a similar schedule, then the head to head has to outweigh any loss to Maryland.  If Cal had more losses than Michigan St. than I could understand it, but not when each has one.  In that case head to head has to outweigh anything else.  Part of me thinks that many of the voters have simply forgotten Cal beat Michigan St.  Look at Maryland, until last week they should have been ranked ahead of Cal.  Each had a loss and Maryland won the head to head.  But now that Maryland has a second loss, than I feel you can rank Cal ahead of them.  I realize this all will tend to work out in the end, but for now it&#039;s simply an incorrect call to rank the Spartans higher.  I&#039;m not sure Cal should be ranked (probably 20-25 is correct) but you could argue against it too--However, the Bears should be above Michigan St.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I understand your point but in a situation where each team has one loss and a similar schedule, then the head to head has to outweigh any loss to Maryland.  If Cal had more losses than Michigan St. than I could understand it, but not when each has one.  In that case head to head has to outweigh anything else.  Part of me thinks that many of the voters have simply forgotten Cal beat Michigan St.  Look at Maryland, until last week they should have been ranked ahead of Cal.  Each had a loss and Maryland won the head to head.  But now that Maryland has a second loss, than I feel you can rank Cal ahead of them.  I realize this all will tend to work out in the end, but for now it&#8217;s simply an incorrect call to rank the Spartans higher.  I&#8217;m not sure Cal should be ranked (probably 20-25 is correct) but you could argue against it too&#8211;However, the Bears should be above Michigan St.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

The bottom line is that Cal&#039;s loss to Maryland is more galling to the voters than MSU&#039;s loss to Cal, and that&#039;s why the Spartans are ahead in the polls. Maryland didn&#039;t help Cal&#039;s position when they took a 31-0 drubbing to lowly Virginia last Saturday. That Maryland loss is going to haunt Cal all season and most likely will prevent the team from getting to a bowl they feel like they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>The bottom line is that Cal&#8217;s loss to Maryland is more galling to the voters than MSU&#8217;s loss to Cal, and that&#8217;s why the Spartans are ahead in the polls. Maryland didn&#8217;t help Cal&#8217;s position when they took a 31-0 drubbing to lowly Virginia last Saturday. That Maryland loss is going to haunt Cal all season and most likely will prevent the team from getting to a bowl they feel like they deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

What I also noticed about the rankings is Michigan St. ahead of Cal.  Both have 1 loss, and Cal&#039;s schedule has easily been at least the equal of the Spartans, but in reality even stronger.  How does this happen when they just played 4 weeks ago?  To me, this kind of voting ignorance is the biggest of many hurdles that doom the BCS system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>What I also noticed about the rankings is Michigan St. ahead of Cal.  Both have 1 loss, and Cal&#8217;s schedule has easily been at least the equal of the Spartans, but in reality even stronger.  How does this happen when they just played 4 weeks ago?  To me, this kind of voting ignorance is the biggest of many hurdles that doom the BCS system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Okanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Okanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calgator, Davis is out at least six weeks, maybe more. That means the earlier he could come back would be the Oregon State game. I wouldn&#039;t count on Davis contributing too much more this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calgator, Davis is out at least six weeks, maybe more. That means the earlier he could come back would be the Oregon State game. I wouldn&#8217;t count on Davis contributing too much more this season.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Banzai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Banzai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the outstanding performance by Nate Longshore.  The QB I saw was the same Nate as last year, inconsistent and inaccurate whenever he moves his feet. An inexplicable interception thrown gently toward opposing lineman. The only Cal score of the second half was a 30 yard drive. Had Nate had been consistently accurate, the Bears win in a rout. But he wasn&#039;t, and ASU was able to load up to stop the run, just like every team did after Nate came back last year. As it was, the killer mistake, the fumbled kickoff return when ASU pulled to within 10, rolled out of bounds. Phew. With this offense, the defense MUST dominate. Can they keep it up against tougher competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the outstanding performance by Nate Longshore.  The QB I saw was the same Nate as last year, inconsistent and inaccurate whenever he moves his feet. An inexplicable interception thrown gently toward opposing lineman. The only Cal score of the second half was a 30 yard drive. Had Nate had been consistently accurate, the Bears win in a rout. But he wasn&#8217;t, and ASU was able to load up to stop the run, just like every team did after Nate came back last year. As it was, the killer mistake, the fumbled kickoff return when ASU pulled to within 10, rolled out of bounds. Phew. With this offense, the defense MUST dominate. Can they keep it up against tougher competition?</p>
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		<title>By: dball</title>
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		<dc:creator>dball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you remember the &quot;Hit Squad&quot; from a few years back, those teams were characterized by great defense, and field position battles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you remember the &#8220;Hit Squad&#8221; from a few years back, those teams were characterized by great defense, and field position battles.</p>
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		<title>By: J Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ask Tedford why he didn&#039;t let Slocum have any carries in relief of Vereen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ask Tedford why he didn&#8217;t let Slocum have any carries in relief of Vereen.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerson_Bakar</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2008/10/05/arizona-state-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-3936</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerson_Bakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert beat me to the punch today. I thought I&#039;d never see the day when the bears would (or could) be a defense and field position team! Offense is still under-performing, luckily football games can be won with excellence in 2 out of the 3 phases of the game.

now....how about a show of hands for those folks that thought gregory couldn&#039;t do the job? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert beat me to the punch today. I thought I&#8217;d never see the day when the bears would (or could) be a defense and field position team! Offense is still under-performing, luckily football games can be won with excellence in 2 out of the 3 phases of the game.</p>
<p>now&#8230;.how about a show of hands for those folks that thought gregory couldn&#8217;t do the job? <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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