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By Jonathan Okanes
Sunday, November 30th, 2008 at 9:11 pm in Mid-week.
Cal got back together Sunday night after the Thanksgiving break, knowing a lot more about their postseason status. After Oregon’s rout of Oregon State last night, it seems to be almost a sure thing that the Bears are headed to the Emerald Bowl at AT&T Park on Dec. 27.
Cal is going to finish alone in fourth place in the Pac-10 or tied for fourth place. Either way, the Bears will be in fourth place and be in the crosshairs of the Emerald Bowl. The Emerald Bowl wants Cal in a bad way, giving the game a local flavor for the first time and almost assuredly guaranteeing a sellout.
This season, the Emerald Bowl actually is slotted to take the conference’s fifth-place team with the Las Vegas Bowl scheduled to have the fourth place team. But the two bowls work in tandem for the 4-5 slot, switching off every year with the first pick. The Las Vegas Bowl actually has the first pick this year, but the Emerald Bowl is working with the Las Vegas Bowl to make sure it gets Cal and the Las Vegas Bowl is happy with its team.
As of right now, Arizona is the fifth-place team. The Las Vegas Bowl likely would rather have Arizona anyway. It’s closer than Cal, hasn’t been to a bowl game since 1998 and should travel well.
The only scenario in which Cal could possibly not go to the Emerald Bowl is if Arizona State beats Arizona on Saturday. That would make the Wildcats 6-6. Assuming Cal beats Washington and finishes 8-4 and possibly in the top 25, the Bears could be a more attractive product than Arizona. But even that may be a stretch.
Gary Cavalli, the executive director of the Emerald Bowl, said Sunday that it “looks good” to bring Cal to his game. But he also added that it’s not as a sure thing as he’d like it to be.
“We’re working together with the folks at the Las Vegas Bowl to find something that works well for everyone,” Cavalli said. “More than likely, we will have Cal. We’d love to have Cal in the game. It’s a guaranteed sellout. We’ve been looking forward to the day we can have a local team in the game. Cal brings a tremendous fan base.”
It makes for an interesting dynamic for Cal’s players. On one hand, they’d love to play in front of a partisan, sellout crowd, many of them family and friends. On the other hand, part of a bowl experience is going to a new city with new attractions, and the Emerald Bowl won’t have that component.
“We’re not going to do anything that we haven’t done already,” Cal linebacker Zack Follett said after practice tonight. “We’ve been to Alcatraz. But I’m happy with it. At least it’s somewhere close to home. It’s another opportunity to play in front of family and friends.”
He then added: “I’d love Vegas, but I’m fine with it.”
Linebacker Worrell Williams added that some players would be disappointed not to travel to another area, but those were mostly younger players who haven’t had the bowl experience yet.
As far as practice, the Bears went heavy on drills, which is normal coming off a bye week. Cal usually practices three times during a bye week but only went once last week, in addition to a conditioning practice. The Bears got in some good fundamental work tonight before really going hard on Washington on Tuesday. They still did some game planning for the Huskies tonight.
Backup quarterback Nate Longshore missed practice, staying back home for an extra day to see his younger brother off on his Mormon mission. Longshore isn’t going to see his brother for the next two years. He will be back on Monday.
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November 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Very disappointing!!! Emerald Bowl is a major disappointment. Baseball stadiums are meant for baseball…not football.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
There goes the grand duke of stinker’s idea about Longshore in the udub game, as game planning went forward without his presence.
Onto bigger news, the Texas connection continues as SLB Jarred Price (5’10″,215lb,4.53) committed on this fine day. Thanks Coach Thompson! Somebody better give that man a healthy X-mas bonus!
Go BEARS!
December 1st, 2008 at 3:12 am
But we want to go to Vegas! I feel like the teams should have more say on what bowls they want to go to…as opposed to lame bowls colluding with lame bowls.
December 1st, 2008 at 3:28 am
4th is better than 1 away from last, which is where Tedford finished last year, but it’s still not good enough. An Emerald for $2.5 milli per ain’t good enough, at all, and next year it’s the Rose or bust for the man we all hate to love, but some still find a way.
A fresh start is not all bad, as Haas Pavilion shows us. SB has proven that she’s got the chops so thanx for the memories, JT, and we wish you well…a nice deep one that you can fall into and never be heard from again. Too harsh? Yep. A bowl of some sort every year is worth more than that and we ARE trying to hype his market value. But since he coulda done so much better, it’s hard not to be bitter so maybe we’ll respect him in his next job, as long as it isn’t with us. Of course, hope is always present but that comes with the Bear territory and it’ll remain just that unless Tedford starts channeling Pappy. Can JT suddenly become a coach worth his salary in year #8? He did better this year but the Magic 8 ball says “No way, Jose”. Odd that it knows my name, isn’t it? Jose, that is, though it also came close to my cat’s name, No Weigh, fatcat that he is. Odd indeed.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:37 am
yes! he is a 4 stars in Rival.com. that put cal at ranked 41 nationally. All the coaches need to push harder to win more top recruit, if they want to be continually competative.
Go Bears!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:39 am
I agree about the Emerald Bowl as being much less attractive than going out of town for a Bowl game. Nonetheless, I’ll be at either venue!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:42 am
Scout Recruiting rates Price as 2-star. 2-Star, 4-star doesn’t matter; he is a Texas linebacker which means attitude and a big lift for the defense. Cal is going to need an aggressive, dominant, game-changing defense the next 2 years.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:10 am
Glad to hear Cal’s getting out of state recruits and fortifying the LBs. In the 3-4 they will continue to be the motor of the D. Just the same, Cal’s LBs from California have not only been fine for generations but it’s the one thing Cal has always done well at.
Any way, I agree it’s not so much about the ranking, either specific players or overall class, it’s the production. Cal is pretty well taken care of in many areas. Despite graduating 3 key LBs, the rest of Cal’s D looks very good, loaded backfield and Jordan and Alualu will be back.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:21 am
Bummer, I was looking forward to going to San Diego. Ironically, I was hoping NOT to be screwed by the Beaver this time…at least we’ll have better odds to win in the Emerald Bowl and new recruits can see the team at practices – another nice thing about having all those bowl games…
December 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Like it or not we earned the Emerald Bowl with our inconsistent play. The Big Game was our best game of the year. Too bad it took 10 games for our offense to get it together. Perhaps next season we can make a run at the Rose Bowl when we get SC at home since we played a lot better at home than on the road.
December 1st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Is there any way we can email the Vegas Bowl and let them know we as fans REALLY want to go? I’d rather face a stronger team and I don’t want to be stuck not getting away for a bowl.
December 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Correction, an Arizona win over Arizona State would make them 7-5 not 6-6
December 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Man, let’s just all go to Vegas anyways after the game.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
two more items to consider regarding the Emerald Bowl:
1 – an extra week of practice…granted, this includes a (presumed) day off for Christmas with a significant distraction.
2 – local bowl game with no travel will make the younger players more hungry to get to a better bowl next year.
December 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Anybody know why we haven’t offered this guy Kenny Cooper? Seems like a stud athlete with Cal as his first choice, all his other picks have offered but us
December 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Looking forward to watching the Bears play at McCovey Cove! We’re undefeated this year at home so why not watch another likely victory in the Bay Area? And do we really want to travel to Vegas to watch Cal battle the mormons from byu again? No way! Beating up a middling ACC team (or maybe Notre Dame?!) in San Francisco sure sounds like a treat of an xmas present to this Golden Bear fan. Go Bears!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Vegas and BYU again? That is kind of boring. Now, that the beaver lost, Emerald is very much Cal best choice. They never been there. I don’t mind to be at SF for a crab and beer at the pier and then head out to the game at night. Its all with in walking distance if you can walk 3 miles. ha ha. just kidding.
Go Bears!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
It’ll be either…
…Cal vs Wake Forest — YAAAAAAWWNNN!
…Cal vs Clemson (preseason top 10) — Rematch of the ’92 Citrus Bowl
…. or Cal vs Miami — an ok matchup, but likely not worth the BART fare to get there.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Most likely Clemson. I rather see. than a mountainwest BYU again in Vegas.
Go Bears! Beat WU 48-6.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Miami has a lot of team speed on both sides of the ball. That would be a good game and tough match up, since we seem to excel against slow defenses but not the fast ones. I’d definitely like Cal-Miami
December 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm
about recruiting too:
I’ve heard that the guys we’re looking at from Merced HS are on the borderline for qualifying academically. Tedford has been incredibly careful about recruiting guys walking a fine line, so they’re probably waiting on test scores and fall grades. It’s like that for a few guys we’re looking at in NorCal
December 1st, 2008 at 10:00 pm
the real problem with the emerald bowl is the payout to the team. we go from vegas 1.3 mil to Emerald’s about 800,000. that’s a big drop though not as bad as the drop from Holiday’s almost 2 mil payout.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Payouts are relatively unimportant in the Pac10. After expenses for the bowl team are deducted, which are relatively high, the remainder is divided up 11 ways, each Pac-10 team getting 1/11th and the bowl team getting 2/11ths. The big loss for Cal is that Oregon State lost and so will lose out on the 2nd BCS payout (which is lower for the 2nd participating team from a conference), assuming that USC would have gone to another BCS bowl.
December 1st, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Emerald Bowl is cool. I’d like to see Miami and CAL go at it. Recruits would be interested in playing a Miami or a Notre Dame. Good photo op for next years poster, Best stiff arming that Miami LB!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 am
Vegas Bowl payout is $1 mil and the Emerald is 750000 to 825000. So, It’s not much difference. They alternate each year anyway to pick the 4th or the 5th place of PAC-10.
Divided by 11. Is that mean Cal get 1/11 of the Rose Bowl payout too. If it is true, Cal could have another $1 mil payout, if both OSU and SC are in BCS. Bummer.
Go Bears!
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:50 am
This division of the payout from bowl games is why USC wants to break away from the 9 dwarfs. Every year we get a huge payout only to have to divide up the spoils with those who can only achieve minor bowl game status. To acheive a bowl today is no big deal. Some of the bowl games are just plain embarassing.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:47 am
USC coach Pete Carroll said he made a snap decision Monday to “go for it,” and wear cardinal home jerseys for Saturday’s game against crosstown rival UCLA, the first time both teams will don their home uniforms in the rivalry game since 1982.
The decision comes with a price, as the Trojans will be penalized one timeout per half against the Bruins, which is either a sign of how much Carroll wanted to do it or that he feels he will not need timeouts.
Gutsy, but that’s what wins championships.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
gutsy, or classless. I’m going with the latter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 am
“WE”? How many passes have you completed for usc? Tackles? Yards rushing? Sacks? How many Rose Bowls have YOU played in? I can guarantee you Pete Carroll has no idea who YOU are. Maybe he does know you as the stalker freak who has no life. He probably wants you to go away too. You’re embarrassing usc folks. How sad.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 am
Sodi Um and his Cal fan ilk are ridiculous. Ridiculously stupid. “Love to hate” Tedford? Who is this man? Go root for Tennessee, where coaches get fired for winning. Cal’s inevitable win over U-Dub this weekend makes Cal 8-4 and going to its 5th bowl in 6 years under Tedford. Thank God Sandy Barbour is smarter than you.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
As a season ticket holder since 1982, I will not attend a bowl game in SF. I used to love the city but it has become less user friendly what with all the homeless and aggresive panhandlers. Mayor Newsome needs to do a Gulliani-style makeover of this once favored city.
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Jahvid needs 170 yards to surpass Jacquizz for the most rushing yards this year. I saw he gets it in the 3rd Quarter. If anyone was wondering about $C’s vaunted RB McKnight, he’ll need over 700 yards! Then, I expect Vereen to have a career day, and we could have 2 Bears in the top5 of PACX RBs. Which individuals are having a better year at RB?
RUSHING Class Games Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Rodgers, Jacquizz-OSU FR 11 259 1253 4.8 11 33 113.9
2. Best, Jahvid-CAL SO 10 155 1083 7.0 9 86 108.3
7. McKnight, Joe-USC SO 9 69 547 7.9 1 55 60.8
9. Vereen, Shane-CAL FR 11 124 630 5.1 3 81 57.3
Go BEARS!
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:17 pm
well said Larry, i was just about to comment on the WE statement made by nomorencsarecoming. oh well, what are u gonna do with people like that. they think theyre the coolest people alive cause they happen to like a great team. and the home jerseys away just further proves how classless and cocky usc is. the funny thing is, as ive mentioned before, 5 star, ten deep, no national title game, pretty funny considering how theyre supposed to be the best team every year.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
and by the way, jahvid best takes a dump on joe mcknight
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Jan, playing the devil’s advocate, and to be fair, McKnight’s splitting time with more backs than Jahvid is; it’s just Jahvid and Shane at Cal.
That being said, I’d take Jahvid over McKnight any day. I was hoping that this year’s Cal-SC game would be a battle of #4′s (and that our #4 would outshine SC’s), but our O-line was hit too hard with injuries. When McKnight committed to SC, and all the hoopla was being made about his decision, I had a hunch that Jahvid would be just as, if not even more, special.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Who is this McKnight guy? Is he one of those boy band members? New Kids on the Block or something like that?
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I really hope that next year the OL is load up and healthy. Best got more than a 1000 yards with not 100% hip from injury, and a broken elbow the whole time. Next year, He may pass 2000 yards like JJ Arrington did. He will be older, bigger, stronger and faster, if he can keep himself healthy.
I hope Cal will promote Best for the Heisman trophy in 2009.
Go Bears!
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
And, my wish list is more mix and trick play from Cal. Cal had been very conservative with mostly run run pass until the second half of the Big Game.
If they would have use those play on the SC game, I do think that Cal could have chance to upset the troll.
Go Bears!
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Did anyone else see the front page of Yahoo! Sports? If you scroll down you’ll see 3 players in their fantasy league who are HOT and 100% owned by fantasy players. One of them is Aaron Rodgers! If you click on the TE option, Tony Gonzalez is there at 100% as well. Where’s the $C representative? Not present in all 5 categories! Oh wait! Jordan Palmer, Carson’s Brother, made the NOT list.
Note to “CalFBFan”, we have a resident troll who responds to these types of post. You don’t have to provide the obvious responses that she typically gives. By the way, Jahvid will surpass McNoodle’s 7.9 average per carry against UDub. So, with all of the injuries to the offensive line, he still put up huge numbers. I’m not convinced that he’ll have a huge season next year, though. Will T. will be gone, and I have no clue how good Tyndall is, while Holley was a noticeable dropoff from Will T. blocking abilities.
Toparch, Cal had plenty of plays which should have gone for big yards or TDs against $C, but the ball was dropped or the penalty called on too many occasions. The little things kill. But, that’s water under the bridge. Key contributors will be gone next year from $C’s D, so they’ll be primed for an upset early in the season on Oct. 3 at Memorial Stadium.
Go BEARS!
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
TopArchiBear Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I really hope that next year the OL is load up and healthy. I hope Cal will promote Best for the Heisman trophy in 2009. >>>>>>> HAHAHAHA…Heisman trophy and a UCB player mentioned in the same sentence is laughable. The next thing you will mention is UCB in the Rose Bowl. You guys are killing me.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Toparch, Cal had plenty of plays which should have gone for big yards or TDs against $C, but the ball was dropped >>>>> It is helpful to know that the reason why the balls were dropped was because Taylor Mays nearly decapitated all of your receivers. I am surprised that #8 got up after TM drilled him with the most vicious hit I h ave seen this year.
Key contributors will be gone next year from $C’s D, >>>>>> With every loss of personnel there are 5 more deep to fill in the ranks.
so they’ll be primed for an upset early in the season on Oct. 3 at Memorial Stadium.>>>>Unfortunately your quest for the Rose Bowl will end early next year as both USC and OSU will take care of business quickly eliminating your hopes.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
The count of players on NFL rosters has USC at 32 and Cal at 30
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 am
Jan, quite frankly, I didn’t think my response was what the troll would have obviously said; the averages of Jahvid and McKnight are comparable. This makes your question of “Which individuals are having a better year at RB?” a dangerous one to ask.
The obvious troll response would’ve been, “pffffft,if Joe McKnight got as many carries as Best, his YPC/average would be even higher.”
Look, the troll bugs me too, but I’d prefer that Cal fans not drop to her level and make arrogant, grand, sweeping statements + poorly thought out/specious arguments.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
i just wish could tell the troll that he or she is not funny at all, just a waste of time that wouldnt like sc if they were horrible
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am
The ridiculous continues from $C. a previous #1-WR- recruit-in-the-Nation Vidal Hazelton is transfering, because “he’s just not as good as the other three guys,” offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian said. “He wasn’t playing as well.” Would we ever hear that from any Cal coach under Tedford? College football might be a very public sport, but somethings should be left between the players and the coaches for the sake of TRUST. Does the Spoiled Children label transcend every aspect of the $C program? It appears Lane Kyffin learned his tricks before he got to the Raiders.
One last thought… a 700 yard difference in yards gained in a year is not “a arrogant, grand, sweeping statements + poorly thought out/specious arguments”. It’s a huge difference, and one that we should be proud of as in indication that our program is heading in the right direction. Now, if the passing game could only have a yearly +3,000 yard total and a TD/INT ratio above 3.
Go Bears!
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am
Jan K Oski Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am
The ridiculous continues from $C. a previous #1-WR- recruit-in-the-Nation Vidal Hazelton is transfering, because “he’s just not as good as the other three guys,” offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian said. “He wasn’t playing as well.”>>>>>>> What a laughable comment from the clown on the CCTimes blogs. This time you really deserved to keep your reputation. Sarks did not say Hazelton was transferring because “he’s just not as good as the other three guys.” Who knows why Vidal is transferring except for Vidal. Sarks sized up Vidal’s prospects and, frankly, Vidal and Co. have to appreciate the honesty. Every program has players who transfer. Whenever our players transfer it is more public because all of our players are not just 5* players but the creme de la creme. A few years ago it was our leading rusher Emmanuel Moody who left. Then Jamere Holland, A. Perez, B. Green. We may have 3-6 more but we don’t care. We wish no one ill will for doing so at least not like the vitrol UCB fans are capable of dishing out. Does the name Montgomery mean anything to you?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 am
One other thing. Why do so many of you have an axe to grind against USC? I scroll through this thread and I see Joe M bashing, Sark bashing, Vidal trashing, bashing of ex SC players in the NFL, etc. Your obsession cannot be a very healthy thing. Hopefully you can get back to concentrating on your minor bowl game (which most peole will forget was even played the day after).
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 am
the reason were bashing your precious players is because you never seem to shut your mouth, thats why, you really want to know, cause you’re annoying. its people like you why most cal fans cant stand usc. i tell you what, if usc fans were classy, i wouldnt mind usc all that much, i think pete carroll is a great coach and a great recruiter. but when you start making comments, especially on a bay area blog, bashing my favorite team, i get alittle cranky
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am
and everybody has an axe to grind with usc cause of your obnoxious fans
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 am
Jan, I have to disagree with you. Your argument IS specious; a 700 yard difference can easily be explained by number of attempts a RB is given. As a result, that doesn’t speak to the ability of the running back. It’s not McKnight’s fault that he has to contend with 3 other backs.
Now, I’m not saying Jahvid’s numbers aren’t an indication that our program is headed in the right direction, but you can’t discount McKnight’s ability solely on the account his total yardage gained when compared to Jahvid. If you mention his ball handling skills, THEN the argument would be more valid. If I recall correctly, he has a problem holding onto the ball…
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am
MoreNCsarecoming Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Heisman trophy and a UCB player mentioned in the same sentence is laughable. You guys are killing me.
HA! back to you! You’re an uniformed idiot. Marshawn was up for the Heisman and some idiot named Bush won it. BUT, hate to break it to you, Marshawn is averaging 4.1 yards per carry, 7 TDs, and 6.6 yards receiving, and finished the previous season with 1,115 total rushing yards. Let’s see, Bush is averaging 3.3 yards per carry with only 2 TDs. Even last season he only averaged 3.7 ypc and 4 TDs.
SUCKS!
Yeah, U$C is just a bunch of ‘media darlings’ as you love to say, and manage to get inferior athletes chosen for the Heisman. So yeah, take all the Heisman’s you want, we know who’s got the superior athletes in the NFL.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 am
BTW if you want to see how classy USC fans are just read my post I put on the scout USC site. With rgards to Vidal I said “A lot of guys choose USC in hopes of starting but they also have a backup plan to leave if they don’t. We are so deep, it seems logical that some players will leave if it doesn’t go the way they wish. Good luck Vidal!”
Now that doesn’t sound like the same kind of stuff I read and heard when Montgomery left your program (and he was only a 3* player).
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
TopArchiBear Says:
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I hope Cal will promote Best for the Heisman trophy in 2009. >>>>>> Heisman trophy 2009 frontrunners will be -Quizz, Mark Sanchez (if he stays), Stafford (if he stays), McCoy (if he stays),Bradford (if he stays), Tebow (if he stays), Pryor. If USC goes to a one back offense then Stafon Johnson will have to be considered.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
mark sanchez is one of the most overrated players in the country, its just because he plays at sc that he gets all the attention. he should be kissing patrick turners and his olines behind. am i saying hes not a good player, no, not at all, hes a solid player with a great arm, but hes not a great player. i always use jay cutler as an example when he was at vandy when referring to the heisman. do you think if cutler had an oline like sc he wouldnt be up for the heisman, heck yeah he would have. sanchez was up for the heisman even before the year began. the voters need to knock it off with that garbage just because these guys play for a good program.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
and stafon johnson, you must be joking
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Calbears Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
sanchez was up for the heisman even before the year began. the voters need to knock it off with that garbage just because these guys play for a good program.>>>>>>> And that is exactly why the very best players in the country want to play for USC. They know all it takes is one solid defining season and they could win the Heisman. 7 Heismans and counting….
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I’m going to assume that Cal will have built a comfortable lead over Washington at halftime.
If so, it would be prudent to sit Best and Vereen to prevent some stupid injury, in a blowout game. I know it would be nice to pad Best’s and Vereen’s stats for future reference, but, are the stats worth the chance of injury.
The same goes for Kevin Riddle. It appears he has been programmed to be the Cal QB for the next 2 years and
why expose him to the same chance of injury. I know he needs a lot more snaps, but, I’m assuming he will get those(like Best and Vereen) in the bowl game.
CAL – Big Win/no injuries
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
nomorencs, look, i understand that ive been responding to you on a consistant basis, but, in all fairness, if you just talk about sc with class, i might consider backing off alittle bit. i dont need to hear about the seven heismans, i could care less, or the number of pac ten or national titles, think about if sc wasnt that great, would you still be a fan.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
and i want an honest response from you. were you one of those usc fans back in the pre Pete Carroll era that was still showing off your usc colors or were you hiding because you were embarrassed. if not, your just another typical bandwagon fan who i cant stand because you ruin the tradition of what being a true fan is all about, loyalty. because if you were a true fan, you would not talk constant trash about how great your team is. look, i dont know when or if it will happen, but if cal was undefeated every single year, or if they were winless every single year, i would still love them till the day i die.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Hey Amy, I am amazed you are still at your old tricks. It isn’t like the Bears have broken their Rose Bowl drought. Why the obsession on a small paper’s forum?
By now, you are probable asking yourself why has my secret admirar returned. It is really simple. I have finally followed your footsteps in being banned on Scout.com! I suppose it was my remark about left testicle, but I was only speaking the truth about you. Unlike your ban, I only have a three days suspension. While I do have better things to do, I thought I would keep you company for the next few days. You know the protocal, you write something, and I’ll respond in kind. Let’s do it, my lil boy!
ps Calbears, you’re kidding, right? Amy is never honest.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Calbears Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
and i want an honest response from you. were you one of those usc fans back in the pre Pete Carroll era that was still showing off your usc colors or were you hiding because you were embarrassed.>>>>>>> Yes! I first became a USC fan when daddy took me to watch them play against your team. That was in 1988. I was captivated then by the tradition and the history and it became even more of a passion for me once I learned more about the history and the players. I rode through some tough times with Hackett as our coach but I really knew that one day we would rise again to prominence. Now here is a question for honest UCB fans? Back when Holmoe and Gilbertson coached you guys you had about 25K fans in attendance. In fact it wasn’t until 2004 (Tedford’s 3rd year) that your attendance got up into the 60Ks and even then you had giveaway days. Now what’s this about bandwagon fans?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
yes i was at the games with the couple thousand fans, when holmoe and gilbertson were the coach, and they were terrible. it was pretty quiet around the stadium, now its almost always packed. there are many cal bandwagon fans as well, i however am not one of them.all im saying is, as a fan that has always been stood by their team, why do you have to act like a typical bandwagon fan that only talks trash, and has nothing positive to say. i can be positive if you can, thats all im saying, im normally a pretty positive blogger, until i read stuff from fans that dont belong on a cal message board.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I think criticism of bandwagon fans in college football is overblown. You have new students joining fan bases every year, and unless the school has strong athletic tradition, it takes a winning program to win the students over.
Now, say you have a school like Cal, with a terrible stint for a bunch of years under a terrible coach. New blood is brought in and the team starts winning. Incoming students, students who start school just as the new coach is brought in, are bound to start following the team. Would these be considered bandwagon fans?
I say, no, they shouldn’t be. These students are now likely fans for life, regardless of who they followed before joining the school. I’m proud to say that I know numerous alumni, graduates of recent years, who continue to come back for Cal football games, who still came back despite the epic collapse suffered last year. Now things are looking sketchier with uncertainty at QB and a questionable O-line, but I guarantee you, these kids are going to keep coming back for more (so long as they have money to do so, of course).
December 4th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Calbears, there’s an old rumor that Amy pooed in her panties, when she heard the SC band for the first time in ’89. Her daddy held her hand to the men’s restroom, but there wasn’t any toilet paper. Witnesses were perplexed at the site of a young boy with pink princess panties. Her father handed out $100 bills to eliminate witness tales, but one witness was wise enough to know this lil boy was messed up in the head and had all of the markings of a wannabe SC fan. Since there wasn’t any paper in the entire stadium, she had to sit in her own poo for the entire game. Her whining was eliminated by her father with his socks. This appears to be the reason why she loves $C, since she suffers from multiple mental illnesses. Her raw bumm proves her dedication through and through.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:59 am
AmyFan4Life Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Calbears, there’s an old rumor that Amy pooed in her panties, when she heard the SC band for the first time in ‘89. Her daddy held her hand to the men’s restroom, but there wasn’t any toilet paper. Witnesses were perplexed at the site of a young boy with pink princess panties. Her father handed out $100 bills to eliminate witness tales, but one witness was wise enough to know this lil boy was messed up in the head and had all of the markings of a wannabe SC fan. Since there wasn’t any paper in the entire stadium, she had to sit in her own poo for the entire game. Her whining was eliminated by her father with his socks. >>>> Wow AF4L! By the looks of what time you posted this (1:43AM) and the substance of the material I take it you must have just gotten off of your early morning shift as a custodian at Haas Gym. Talk about a sick fetish! How long did it take for you to think that one up? I guess now that you are BANNED on the scout boards you have nothing better to do with your time. Now that you have thoroughly embearassed yourself I predict we will see more of BerkeleyGoldenBear from now on.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:20 am
AmyFan4Life Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Why the obsession on a small paper’s forum?..I have finally followed your footsteps in being banned on Scout.com! Unlike your ban, I only have a three days suspension. You know the protocal, you write something, and I’ll respond in kind>>>>> You will have a lot of catching up to do once you get UNBANNED. Did you see my new s/n? Let me clue you in. It sounds a lot like one of the other ones. Also since you need something to do check out the Austin American a few days ago and of course the SFChronicle on a daily basis – both of them should do you proud since you think this blog isn’t worthy of your attention.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Amy, you’re not denying the story, but only projecting your sick distorted perception of the world? Cope out! Feces are a natural part of life, Amy. It ain’t sick except for those with your bizaar nature. Fortunately, you are a rarity for the sake of society.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
One more thing… Do you know anything about time changes when you travel? Yes, the world isn’t flat, Amy! Hold onto your skirt, there’s more! Normal people don’t spend their entire day in front of the computer screen pressing F5. How many times have you done that, since your last post on here?
December 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I went to some Cal games when I was a student there from 99-02, and still remember the cops promising to provide “I didn’t rush the field shirts” for those who stayed in their seats – “in the rare event we beat Stanford”.
I became a fan when I went to school there – didn’t buy season tickets, as I do now, becasue you didn’t need them for a good seat, they sucked that bad, football wasn’t what people thought of when you mentioned Berkeley.
Now, you need them…odds are I’ll not be attending college again, so Cal will always be my team (still a Raider fan, and many thanks to whomever for Tedford – thanks but no thanks, Kiffin) and I’ll always enjoy the games, so long as Tedford or better remains there.
I honestly don’t think Cal will attract another coach of his caliber – at least not until the new facilities are built, especially with the state’s budget crisis, but maybe I don’t give Barbour enough credit.
But I don’t believe there is the pro-style parity within the FBS conferences, and I think schools like us, Stanford, ND, and UCLA have more obstacles to to recruiting. THerefore, unless Carrol leaves $C, we’ll most likely have to continue sifting through the dung heap of it-who-shall-not-be-named’s woeful pedantry. It’s psychotic and weird, but at least it gives me a chance for creative writing.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
AmyFan4Life Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Amy, you’re not denying the story, >>>> How’s this? I deny the story. Now do you care to make up another one? I hope your late shift custodian job doesn’t take you to the Life Sciences building to clean up after experimental animals. No telling what kind of story you would come up with.