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		<title>By: Intense Conversations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Foxxhole Radio 1/9/09: the Return of… « Captain Cornball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intense Conversations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Foxxhole Radio 1/9/09: the Return of… « Captain Cornball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one talked about Michael Calvin getting injured 1st w his Toe Injury then the season ending Knee Injury. Then Marvin Jones got hurt and before that Tepper went down on the line and Chet Teofilo is not a very good lineman..he tries hard but he just didn&#039;t have it last year! New Receivers last year and the best two got hurt right of the bat one&#039;s a true freshman the other is a redshirt freshman...Next year Cal&#039;s WR (Verran Tucker, Michael Calvin, Marvin Jones, Nyan Boateng, Jeremy Ross) are going to be night and day different this next year!!! And the line even without Alex Mack overall will be a better unit! Without question Kevin Riley has an amazing year next year! Cal is going to win the Pac Ten and go to the Rose Bowl. The leagues best DLine and Secondary, Also the league&#039;s best RB in Best. An Improved OLine and WR&#039;s...Cal is looking Good!! Cal will Miss dearly Will T at FB, All the senior LB&#039;s (I&#039;m worried about our ILB Positions), Alex Mack. We&#039;re loaded with the most talent we&#039;ve had in all of Tedford&#039;s era..it&#039;s a big year folks!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one talked about Michael Calvin getting injured 1st w his Toe Injury then the season ending Knee Injury. Then Marvin Jones got hurt and before that Tepper went down on the line and Chet Teofilo is not a very good lineman..he tries hard but he just didn&#8217;t have it last year! New Receivers last year and the best two got hurt right of the bat one&#8217;s a true freshman the other is a redshirt freshman&#8230;Next year Cal&#8217;s WR (Verran Tucker, Michael Calvin, Marvin Jones, Nyan Boateng, Jeremy Ross) are going to be night and day different this next year!!! And the line even without Alex Mack overall will be a better unit! Without question Kevin Riley has an amazing year next year! Cal is going to win the Pac Ten and go to the Rose Bowl. The leagues best DLine and Secondary, Also the league&#8217;s best RB in Best. An Improved OLine and WR&#8217;s&#8230;Cal is looking Good!! Cal will Miss dearly Will T at FB, All the senior LB&#8217;s (I&#8217;m worried about our ILB Positions), Alex Mack. We&#8217;re loaded with the most talent we&#8217;ve had in all of Tedford&#8217;s era..it&#8217;s a big year folks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: covinared</title>
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		<dc:creator>covinared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting tired of TV announcers always playing up Tedford&#039;s success with turning quarterbacks into NFL busts. Except for Longshore&#039;s sophmore year, that&#039;s all ancient history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting tired of TV announcers always playing up Tedford&#8217;s success with turning quarterbacks into NFL busts. Except for Longshore&#8217;s sophmore year, that&#8217;s all ancient history.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys- Did you really think we were talking about running on every down and not needing a passing game?

I agree that you have to keep the defense honest and make them stay back on their heels. But the disappointment this year was the way the offense ran with NL and KR. You know you don&#039;t have a good QB, so why are you having them look down the field all the time to try to establish your mid-range passing game?

Get the ball out of your QB&#039;s hands into those of your playmakers. How cool was the hook and ladder that Tucker and Best executed against Stanford? Or how about the trick pass against OSU? How involved was the QB in those 2 plays? Exactly!!

With Best as our strength, you obviously don&#039;t run him up the gut every down (which by the way is what Tedford did with Lynch against Arizona 2 years ago and with Forsett against Oregon State last year). Line Best up as a WR, have him go out on a wheel route, just get him the ball. Who cares how many touches your other WR&#039;s have or your TE. Then when the D locks on to Best, hopefully your QB will be able to figure it out and go to one of your other options.

The point you have to know what you have and don&#039;t have, then structure your offense around it. I think this year he was trying much too hard to establish the QB, and as a result neither one got comfortable. Hopefully he gets things figured out for next year. We do play USC early and would love to see that coming out party for us if we hit on all cylinders from the get go!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys- Did you really think we were talking about running on every down and not needing a passing game?</p>
<p>I agree that you have to keep the defense honest and make them stay back on their heels. But the disappointment this year was the way the offense ran with NL and KR. You know you don&#8217;t have a good QB, so why are you having them look down the field all the time to try to establish your mid-range passing game?</p>
<p>Get the ball out of your QB&#8217;s hands into those of your playmakers. How cool was the hook and ladder that Tucker and Best executed against Stanford? Or how about the trick pass against OSU? How involved was the QB in those 2 plays? Exactly!!</p>
<p>With Best as our strength, you obviously don&#8217;t run him up the gut every down (which by the way is what Tedford did with Lynch against Arizona 2 years ago and with Forsett against Oregon State last year). Line Best up as a WR, have him go out on a wheel route, just get him the ball. Who cares how many touches your other WR&#8217;s have or your TE. Then when the D locks on to Best, hopefully your QB will be able to figure it out and go to one of your other options.</p>
<p>The point you have to know what you have and don&#8217;t have, then structure your offense around it. I think this year he was trying much too hard to establish the QB, and as a result neither one got comfortable. Hopefully he gets things figured out for next year. We do play USC early and would love to see that coming out party for us if we hit on all cylinders from the get go!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Okanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Okanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to believe Sweeney has as equal a shot as Mansion. Sweeney is athletic and might be Cal&#039;s most mobile quarterback, but don&#039;t forget he&#039;s been on the scout team all year so he&#039;s way behind as far as being comfortable with Cal&#039;s system. That&#039;s not to say he couldn&#039;t catch up, but at least Mansion has worked with the offense all year and has been involved in every rep at practice.
Mansion has been inaccurate at times, but so has everyone else. He&#039;s probably not in a very good rhythm because as the third team quarterback he rarely gets reps at practice. But Mansion still is talented and has a bright future.
Tedford did say the job was open and both Mansion and Sweeney would be in the mix. But my gut tells me said that just to stress the competition is wide open. Tedford said the same thing about Mansion last year, when in reality we all knew it was between Longshore and Riley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to believe Sweeney has as equal a shot as Mansion. Sweeney is athletic and might be Cal&#8217;s most mobile quarterback, but don&#8217;t forget he&#8217;s been on the scout team all year so he&#8217;s way behind as far as being comfortable with Cal&#8217;s system. That&#8217;s not to say he couldn&#8217;t catch up, but at least Mansion has worked with the offense all year and has been involved in every rep at practice.<br />
Mansion has been inaccurate at times, but so has everyone else. He&#8217;s probably not in a very good rhythm because as the third team quarterback he rarely gets reps at practice. But Mansion still is talented and has a bright future.<br />
Tedford did say the job was open and both Mansion and Sweeney would be in the mix. But my gut tells me said that just to stress the competition is wide open. Tedford said the same thing about Mansion last year, when in reality we all knew it was between Longshore and Riley.</p>
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		<title>By: J Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JO

I am also surprised that you did not mention Sweeney. I have heard that he is the most accurate passer that Cal has on the roster. I attended some practices and watched Mansion several times. In my opinion he has a strong arm but is not an accurate passer.
Sweeney is also a capable runner which is going to be very important this year unless the offensive line improves over last year.</description>
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<p>I am also surprised that you did not mention Sweeney. I have heard that he is the most accurate passer that Cal has on the roster. I attended some practices and watched Mansion several times. In my opinion he has a strong arm but is not an accurate passer.<br />
Sweeney is also a capable runner which is going to be very important this year unless the offensive line improves over last year.</p>
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		<title>By: CalFBFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CalFBFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to SDGB and Go Bears, Cal isn&#039;t set up to run the ball every down. If we ran the triple-option, sure. But we don&#039;t, instead we rely on the strategy SDGB and Go Bears have laid out. Furthermore, I certainly doubt Best can take the sort of beating.

Citing USC in the Rose Bowl is also a poor example. You open up the passing game by having a strong running game. If SC&#039;s rushing attack weren&#039;t as strong, Penn State would be able to drop more defenders back to defend against the passing attack. As it was, they had to respect USC&#039;s running game. Once the passing game was opened for SC and it was obvious that Penn State&#039;s secondary wouldn&#039;t be able to defend it, there was no reason to go back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to SDGB and Go Bears, Cal isn&#8217;t set up to run the ball every down. If we ran the triple-option, sure. But we don&#8217;t, instead we rely on the strategy SDGB and Go Bears have laid out. Furthermore, I certainly doubt Best can take the sort of beating.</p>
<p>Citing USC in the Rose Bowl is also a poor example. You open up the passing game by having a strong running game. If SC&#8217;s rushing attack weren&#8217;t as strong, Penn State would be able to drop more defenders back to defend against the passing attack. As it was, they had to respect USC&#8217;s running game. Once the passing game was opened for SC and it was obvious that Penn State&#8217;s secondary wouldn&#8217;t be able to defend it, there was no reason to go back.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Bears82</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Bears82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with SDGB.  You have to have the threat of a pass to succeed with the run.  Otherwise opponents will stack the box, shut down the run, and force you to pass.  The teams that performed well against Cal did that.  They took away the run, blitzed and there was not offensive response.  It is critical that QB play improve in order for the running game to be successful.

If you look at Tedford&#039;s record, Cal has been a more run-oriented program than past years.  He&#039;s had Adimchenobe, Arrington, Lynch, Forsett, and now Best.  It&#039;s pretty hard to argue with the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with SDGB.  You have to have the threat of a pass to succeed with the run.  Otherwise opponents will stack the box, shut down the run, and force you to pass.  The teams that performed well against Cal did that.  They took away the run, blitzed and there was not offensive response.  It is critical that QB play improve in order for the running game to be successful.</p>
<p>If you look at Tedford&#8217;s record, Cal has been a more run-oriented program than past years.  He&#8217;s had Adimchenobe, Arrington, Lynch, Forsett, and now Best.  It&#8217;s pretty hard to argue with the results.</p>
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		<title>By: SDGoldenBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDGoldenBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

If you just keep doing something over and over, teams are going to shut it down.  The reason Best ripped off all those runs vs. Miami was because each time, they came out of different looks, on different down/distances, at different times.

The balance you criticize is precisely the reason we run the ball so well every year.  If we abandoned the pass completely, it would take teams about 10 plays to figure it out - remember Maryland?

You run the screens, the slants, and the play actions just enough to keep the defense honest, and then you kill them with the plays that you run best.  This year, our best plays were zone rushes by Best.  Some other year, it might be something else.

The play calling hasn&#039;t been the problem.  It&#039;s the execution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>If you just keep doing something over and over, teams are going to shut it down.  The reason Best ripped off all those runs vs. Miami was because each time, they came out of different looks, on different down/distances, at different times.</p>
<p>The balance you criticize is precisely the reason we run the ball so well every year.  If we abandoned the pass completely, it would take teams about 10 plays to figure it out &#8211; remember Maryland?</p>
<p>You run the screens, the slants, and the play actions just enough to keep the defense honest, and then you kill them with the plays that you run best.  This year, our best plays were zone rushes by Best.  Some other year, it might be something else.</p>
<p>The play calling hasn&#8217;t been the problem.  It&#8217;s the execution.</p>
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		<title>By: clunky</title>
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		<dc:creator>clunky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to re-watch the Colorado State game.  Riley did NOTHING to justify losing his starting job.  Best and Vereen both fumbled to kill drives and Cal was scoring on STs and D, thereby limiting offensive possessions.

The decision to replace Riley at that point basically killed any chance that Cal had for a great season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to re-watch the Colorado State game.  Riley did NOTHING to justify losing his starting job.  Best and Vereen both fumbled to kill drives and Cal was scoring on STs and D, thereby limiting offensive possessions.</p>
<p>The decision to replace Riley at that point basically killed any chance that Cal had for a great season.</p>
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