Comments on: Football: Pac-10 ballot — No. 7 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:07:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: AERose http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/comment-page-1/#comment-8750 AERose Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:40:01 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/?p=5193#comment-8750 I don't think Arizona should be just one spot higher, but this was the easiest comparison to make. I also think you're underrating how much of a disaster Arizona State's offense will be. Their quarterback will get better protection than Rudy Carpenter, but that only ensures that he won't keel over and die at any point during the season and not a lot more. Of the four incoming quarterbacks in the conference's bottom 6, I give Scott or Foles (whichever one starts) the best chance with Luck of not spending their time getting chased all over the field. I don’t think Arizona should be just one spot higher, but this was the easiest comparison to make. I also think you’re underrating how much of a disaster Arizona State’s offense will be. Their quarterback will get better protection than Rudy Carpenter, but that only ensures that he won’t keel over and die at any point during the season and not a lot more. Of the four incoming quarterbacks in the conference’s bottom 6, I give Scott or Foles (whichever one starts) the best chance with Luck of not spending their time getting chased all over the field.

]]> By: Jethro http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/comment-page-1/#comment-8749 Jethro Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:02:10 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/?p=5193#comment-8749 ASU will finish ahead of UCLA and Az and will battle Stanfurd for the 5th spot in the Pac 10. ASU gets Az at home this year and will beat both Washington schools for 3 wins. They will beat either Cal, USC, or Oregon State at home and/or Stanfurd or UCLA on the road for 4 or 5 wins. I think Stanfurd gets the 5th spot because they will probably beat ASU in Palo Alto. It all about home field versus your closest rival. So the order will be: USC (will lose to either Cal or Oregon on the road) Oregon (gets Cal at home; also USC and Oregon St at home) Cal (gets Oregon State at home) Oregon State (gets Stanfurd at home) Stanfurd (gets ASU at home) ASU (gets Az at home) Az (gets UCLA at home) UCLA (gets Wash at home) Wash (gets Wash St at home) Wash St ASU will finish ahead of UCLA and Az and will battle Stanfurd for the 5th spot in the Pac 10. ASU gets Az at home this year and will beat both Washington schools for 3 wins. They will beat either Cal, USC, or Oregon State at home and/or Stanfurd or UCLA on the road for 4 or 5 wins.

I think Stanfurd gets the 5th spot because they will probably beat ASU in Palo Alto. It all about home field versus your closest rival.

So the order will be:

USC (will lose to either Cal or Oregon on the road)
Oregon (gets Cal at home; also USC and Oregon St at home)
Cal (gets Oregon State at home)
Oregon State (gets Stanfurd at home)
Stanfurd (gets ASU at home)
ASU (gets Az at home)
Az (gets UCLA at home)
UCLA (gets Wash at home)
Wash (gets Wash St at home)
Wash St

]]> By: Jan K Oski http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/comment-page-1/#comment-8747 Jan K Oski Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:27:59 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/?p=5193#comment-8747 I disagree AERose. Many experts think ASU could have one of the top 3 defenses in the league. Defense is going to pay big dividends in this league as it always does at every level of football. Zona might have a slight advantage on offense, but that's half the game... And, what's one spot in the preseason rankings? You're splitting hairs in my opinion. Go BEARS! I disagree AERose. Many experts think ASU could have one of the top 3 defenses in the league. Defense is going to pay big dividends in this league as it always does at every level of football. Zona might have a slight advantage on offense, but that’s half the game… And, what’s one spot in the preseason rankings? You’re splitting hairs in my opinion.

Go BEARS!

]]> By: AERose http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/comment-page-1/#comment-8748 AERose Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:46:58 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/?p=5193#comment-8748 Picking Arizona State, a team that has virtually no offensive prospects, over it's rival Arizona is borderline incomprehensible. Arizona has more quality depth in the offensive line (meaning that unlike ASU's inexperienced quarterback, Arizona's inexperienced quarterback is actually going to get some semblance of pass protection) and has much better running backs in addition to having solid depth at receiver. Arizona State might have a better defense but that won't help them win games if they can't score any points. I think you've underestimated Arizona in general but this just happens to be a particularly galling example. Picking Arizona State, a team that has virtually no offensive prospects, over it’s rival Arizona is borderline incomprehensible. Arizona has more quality depth in the offensive line (meaning that unlike ASU’s inexperienced quarterback, Arizona’s inexperienced quarterback is actually going to get some semblance of pass protection) and has much better running backs in addition to having solid depth at receiver. Arizona State might have a better defense but that won’t help them win games if they can’t score any points.

I think you’ve underestimated Arizona in general but this just happens to be a particularly galling example.

]]> By: iamalcindor http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/07/21/football-pac-10-ballot-no-7/comment-page-1/#comment-8746 iamalcindor Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:29:25 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/?p=5193#comment-8746 not a bad choice. but pucla should finish below ASUck not a bad choice. but pucla should finish below ASUck

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