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		<title>By: rollonubears</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/11/10/football-tuesday-night-update-13/comment-page-1/#comment-14004</link>
		<dc:creator>rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boller got his ticket to the NFL on the reputation of Tedford alone. The only QB who has had any success at that level has been Rodgers, and he&#039;s only really been at it for a year. Boller had the best defense in the NFL scoring almost all their points. Go back and look at the stats. Just because you can throw the ball 70 yards from your knees doesn&#039;t mean you have any business playing football on Sunday. Riley is at his best when he&#039;s free to run around. Tedford has forced him into being a pocket QB. Maybe that helps his draft stock, but it&#039;s not helping the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boller got his ticket to the NFL on the reputation of Tedford alone. The only QB who has had any success at that level has been Rodgers, and he&#8217;s only really been at it for a year. Boller had the best defense in the NFL scoring almost all their points. Go back and look at the stats. Just because you can throw the ball 70 yards from your knees doesn&#8217;t mean you have any business playing football on Sunday. Riley is at his best when he&#8217;s free to run around. Tedford has forced him into being a pocket QB. Maybe that helps his draft stock, but it&#8217;s not helping the team.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/11/10/football-tuesday-night-update-13/comment-page-1/#comment-14003</link>
		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GB77

The word out on Tedford (at least from the NFL) is that he doesn&#039;t &quot;produce&quot; complete players. The reason why Boller succeeded his last year under JT but not in the pros is that JT shrunk the field in half. Boller only had limited reads to make. When Boller got to the pros all of his fundamentals were exposed. He lacked touch, he lacked the mental part of the game, he lacked, he lacked, etc etc. Remember too this was Tedford&#039;s first year as HC and the defensives had not seen his style of play.

Rodgers has everything and then some although his ability to throw the long ball accurately in college was a bit suspect.  Your analysis of the other 3 appears to be good but teaching mechanics is just not that hard. Stepping into your throws is very very easy. It&#039;s the mental parts of the game, the speed and the defenses that confuse a player. Ayoob had the arm but Tedford was into his head so much that the kid didn&#039;t know up from down.  You could see it in him. How he held the ball for instance was ridiculous minutiae which only JT would care about. The kid was having a hard time making a single read.  Look at how he started against Sac State for all the evidence needed. Longshore just didn&#039;t have it. When healthy he could throw the longball but when he wasn&#039;t he couldn&#039;t even throw the out pattern without pick 6 written all over it. Now the reason why I bring up an analysis of all 4 is for the sake of Riley.  He is definitely not Rodgers although he throws a better long ball. In terms of accuracy he reminds me of Ayoob.  He simply is not accurate on a consistent basis and that fights with his mental part of the game. He also has some mechanical problems. I have to think Tedford has a lot to do with that. Longshore was just a bad pick by Tedford but what are you going to do when you have a defeated Ayoob and an unseasoned Riley. To me Tedford needs a QB like Canfield - tall, stand in the pocket with occasional throw on the run abilities.  That is what suits his offense. He would probably destroy a QB like Luck and definitely would have nothing to do with a Masoli or Dixon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB77</p>
<p>The word out on Tedford (at least from the NFL) is that he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;produce&#8221; complete players. The reason why Boller succeeded his last year under JT but not in the pros is that JT shrunk the field in half. Boller only had limited reads to make. When Boller got to the pros all of his fundamentals were exposed. He lacked touch, he lacked the mental part of the game, he lacked, he lacked, etc etc. Remember too this was Tedford&#8217;s first year as HC and the defensives had not seen his style of play.</p>
<p>Rodgers has everything and then some although his ability to throw the long ball accurately in college was a bit suspect.  Your analysis of the other 3 appears to be good but teaching mechanics is just not that hard. Stepping into your throws is very very easy. It&#8217;s the mental parts of the game, the speed and the defenses that confuse a player. Ayoob had the arm but Tedford was into his head so much that the kid didn&#8217;t know up from down.  You could see it in him. How he held the ball for instance was ridiculous minutiae which only JT would care about. The kid was having a hard time making a single read.  Look at how he started against Sac State for all the evidence needed. Longshore just didn&#8217;t have it. When healthy he could throw the longball but when he wasn&#8217;t he couldn&#8217;t even throw the out pattern without pick 6 written all over it. Now the reason why I bring up an analysis of all 4 is for the sake of Riley.  He is definitely not Rodgers although he throws a better long ball. In terms of accuracy he reminds me of Ayoob.  He simply is not accurate on a consistent basis and that fights with his mental part of the game. He also has some mechanical problems. I have to think Tedford has a lot to do with that. Longshore was just a bad pick by Tedford but what are you going to do when you have a defeated Ayoob and an unseasoned Riley. To me Tedford needs a QB like Canfield &#8211; tall, stand in the pocket with occasional throw on the run abilities.  That is what suits his offense. He would probably destroy a QB like Luck and definitely would have nothing to do with a Masoli or Dixon.</p>
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		<title>By: GoldenBear 77</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoldenBear 77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scotty Mon,

I think you have to take off the rose colored glasses.

Pawlawski was a good leader (something you cannot coach), OK at the game, and unfortunately will be remembered, by me at least, for one of the worst displays of CAL football sportsmanship in my watching the program -- the Big Game performance his senior year.  Neither Ayoob, nor Longshore was a physical talent.  Ayoob could not be taught to stop throwing off his back leg, and was, hence, inaccurate, and Longshore, while bright, and having a great grasp of Tedford&#039;s system was slow footed, and did not step up in the pocket.  Neither would have ever been a great quarterback, no matter who coached them.  Riley is still an open question, at least for me.  He has leadership skills, and when he remembers his form, accurate, but that is not that much of the time.

Finally, you forget Kyle Boller.  In one season, Tedford made him.  I think it is the other way around -- once quarterbacks buy into the system (like Rodgers and Boller) they get better.  Ayoob never did, Longshore did, but did not have the physical tools, and for some reason Riley has not yet been able to get his body to do what he knows he should on a consistent basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotty Mon,</p>
<p>I think you have to take off the rose colored glasses.</p>
<p>Pawlawski was a good leader (something you cannot coach), OK at the game, and unfortunately will be remembered, by me at least, for one of the worst displays of CAL football sportsmanship in my watching the program &#8212; the Big Game performance his senior year.  Neither Ayoob, nor Longshore was a physical talent.  Ayoob could not be taught to stop throwing off his back leg, and was, hence, inaccurate, and Longshore, while bright, and having a great grasp of Tedford&#8217;s system was slow footed, and did not step up in the pocket.  Neither would have ever been a great quarterback, no matter who coached them.  Riley is still an open question, at least for me.  He has leadership skills, and when he remembers his form, accurate, but that is not that much of the time.</p>
<p>Finally, you forget Kyle Boller.  In one season, Tedford made him.  I think it is the other way around &#8212; once quarterbacks buy into the system (like Rodgers and Boller) they get better.  Ayoob never did, Longshore did, but did not have the physical tools, and for some reason Riley has not yet been able to get his body to do what he knows he should on a consistent basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Okanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Okanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cal, DeBoskie redshirted last year]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal, DeBoskie redshirted last year</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bet you Tedford would have messed up Powlaski too. I have been saying this all along and I have been trashed for it.  Tedford has his QBs over thinking everything. Did Tuel look like he was overthinking against you guys when he put up 350 yards? Did Barkley look like he was overthinking against you guys when he looked like an All American? Did Canfield lokk like he was overthinking against you guys last week? Finally what about Prince.  Their coaches make it easy for them. Drop back or roll out, make two reads and then pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you Tedford would have messed up Powlaski too. I have been saying this all along and I have been trashed for it.  Tedford has his QBs over thinking everything. Did Tuel look like he was overthinking against you guys when he put up 350 yards? Did Barkley look like he was overthinking against you guys when he looked like an All American? Did Canfield lokk like he was overthinking against you guys last week? Finally what about Prince.  Their coaches make it easy for them. Drop back or roll out, make two reads and then pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty Mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotty Mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh where oh where has Mike Pawlawski gone. Tedford seems to have peeked right before the 2004 Holiday Bowl where we got waxed. Since Aaron Rodgers left we have the same problem at QB, which is Tedford so far inside his head that he plays not to screw up. Ayoob, Longshore and Riley have so much physical talent but not the warrior leadership that Pawlawski had. That again is coaching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh where oh where has Mike Pawlawski gone. Tedford seems to have peeked right before the 2004 Holiday Bowl where we got waxed. Since Aaron Rodgers left we have the same problem at QB, which is Tedford so far inside his head that he plays not to screw up. Ayoob, Longshore and Riley have so much physical talent but not the warrior leadership that Pawlawski had. That again is coaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Calduke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calbear - I think Deboskie was a redshirt last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calbear &#8211; I think Deboskie was a redshirt last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Calduke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again; for those who are interested in what the folks who bet money on college games think about this Saturday - Cal is a 1 point favorite over Arizona.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again; for those who are interested in what the folks who bet money on college games think about this Saturday &#8211; Cal is a 1 point favorite over Arizona.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why put 11 men in coverage?  Take a player off and just go with 10 in coverage!  Bears dominate in that Gregory formation!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why put 11 men in coverage?  Take a player off and just go with 10 in coverage!  Bears dominate in that Gregory formation!</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Sac State played just about as well on defense against EWU as your team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Sac State played just about as well on defense against EWU as your team.</p>
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