Comments on: Basketball: Uncharted territory

By: ToparchBears

ToparchBears — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:01:33 +0000

thanks jeff. The reason I ask is that I thought Cal and ASU has the same number of games. But, ASU has one more extra game. So, now I get it.

By: TakeOffThatRedShirt

TakeOffThatRedShirt — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:42:42 +0000

Esquire-

I read that any team tying for first can claim a share of the Pac 10 title – i think i saw it on the pac 10 website.

I agree that we would have a better claim and by beating a team twice we would deserve to be the champs.

Well, off to the game. See you all there.

By: Rollonubears

Rollonubears — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:47:32 +0000

Guys, if we win today, it’s over. We have the tiebreaker. Yes, technically it could be a co-championship, but the only true co-championship is when the two teams at the top either didn’t play each other, or played twice and split. Call it what you want, but if we win today, the bears are champs and the nets come down. Go bears!

By: Esquire Joe

Esquire Joe — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:45:10 +0000

Of course, that last post was in response to TakeOffThatRedShirt’s very comprehensive post.

By: Esquire Joe

Esquire Joe — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:43:53 +0000

Very nice rundown. Just two things.

1. There’s one other scenario on the “if we beat ASU” side. If Cal beats ASU but loses to Stanfurd, and ASU otherwise wins out, Cal would still win the Pac 10. That’s because Cal and ASU would tie at 12-6, and the first tiebreaker for Pac 10 championship ties is the head-to-head matchup. Cal would have beaten ASU twice, and therefore win the title.

2. If Cal loses to ASU, beats the ‘Furd, and ASU loses once in LA, then Cal and ASU tie. HOWEVER, under that scenario, Cal does NOT win the Pac 10 title.

In that case, Cal and ASU would have split their head-to-head match-ups. The next tiebreaker is the teams’ respective records against the next highest team in the standings. If that’s tied, you go to the next highest team, and so on. Believe it or not, you’d have to go all the way down to Oregon State (currently 8th in the standings) to find a team against whom Cal’s and ASU’s records differ. Unfortunately, ASU swept OSU.

THAT’s why you need to beat teams like UCLA and OSU when you have the chance. You never know when one of those is going to come back to haunt you.

By: Jeff Faraudo

Jeff Faraudo — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:59:10 +0000

Toparch Bears,
Cal does not have a one-game lead on ASU, but a half-game lead — they are even in the loss column. So if Cal beats ASU on Saturday, then loses at Stanford while ASU wins twice next week, they both would finish with 12-6 records and would share the title. But a victory on Saturday would clinch for Cal the No. 1 seed in the Pac-10 tournament, beacuse the Bears would own the tiebreaker vs. ASU. Hope that helps.

By: Paul

Paul — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:45:27 +0000

I plan on getting to Haas around 7am to make sure I have a front row seat in the bench. Hopefully I’ll be close to the front of the line. Really fired up for this one. Go Bears!!!

By: Bears

Bears — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:01:31 +0000

Traffic will be tough getting in to Berkeley tomorrow folks.
Leave early. Parking will be tough too. Don’t chance missing warmups.
This game is huge!
I agree with Will.
11am it is.
Meaning I’m starting the drive at 9:45am!
Feeling confident about our troops desire and ability to win this game, and our crowd will push our Bears to produce their best effort of the year.
Get that championship Bears…we can taste it!

By: MoreNCsarecoming

MoreNCsarecoming — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 05:41:41 +0000

Great post. Got to hand it to you. Everyone feels great when there are championships spoken in the air. No wonder it is so oppressive around here.

By: uh oh.

uh oh. — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 05:22:15 +0000

Second great question thread is:
How many tickets are for sale at Maples next week?
How many Blue and Gold fans are going to be in the stands?
Imagine the possibilities!!!!
(Hint: GET THE TREE!)
Oh, sorry, it’s not the Big Game.
And wouldn’t that be funny to see a Monty led team tearing apart the tree?!?! Would he stand for it – or run out and protect the damn thing, saying it wasn’t classy of us to dismantle the tree?
Oh, my…. Monty winning the Pac 10 and cutting down the nets at Maples for the Bears? Now that’s a site I’m sure we’ll never see!