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		<title>By: kafkaclone</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-2/#comment-29701</link>
		<dc:creator>kafkaclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the rules state that the offense must wait for substitutions to come into the game. the problem cal has is that your starting defensive team is quite good actually..some of the starting players among the best in the country. the problem however is their backups are considerably weaker. oregon would have been very happy to slow down the pace if you actually put in one of your weaker players in for us to target. but the offense does not have to wait for substitutes that dont come into the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the rules state that the offense must wait for substitutions to come into the game. the problem cal has is that your starting defensive team is quite good actually..some of the starting players among the best in the country. the problem however is their backups are considerably weaker. oregon would have been very happy to slow down the pace if you actually put in one of your weaker players in for us to target. but the offense does not have to wait for substitutes that dont come into the game.</p>
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		<title>By: kafkaclone</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-2/#comment-29694</link>
		<dc:creator>kafkaclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[faking injuries is against the rules. if you admit you faked injuries to the official he can throw a flag. if you lie to the offical you get away with it..but liars are scumbags and of course you know this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>faking injuries is against the rules. if you admit you faked injuries to the official he can throw a flag. if you lie to the offical you get away with it..but liars are scumbags and of course you know this?</p>
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		<title>By: Fungmunkey</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-2/#comment-29546</link>
		<dc:creator>Fungmunkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must have missed all of the bitter Cal losers because all I read was Oregon whining. Any ass hat that played football at any level knows that if you run a fast offense the opposing team has to slow you down with injuries, faked or not. It&#039;s called football. I&#039;ll agree, a win is a win and Oregon won. So what? Good game, however championship teams forge through adversity and don&#039;t bitch about it. So Oregon didn&#039;t score 60 points like Herbstreet predicted, OFnW. Good luck against Auburn although you&#039;ll probably drop trou like last year against the big bad East Coaster&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have missed all of the bitter Cal losers because all I read was Oregon whining. Any ass hat that played football at any level knows that if you run a fast offense the opposing team has to slow you down with injuries, faked or not. It&#8217;s called football. I&#8217;ll agree, a win is a win and Oregon won. So what? Good game, however championship teams forge through adversity and don&#8217;t bitch about it. So Oregon didn&#8217;t score 60 points like Herbstreet predicted, OFnW. Good luck against Auburn although you&#8217;ll probably drop trou like last year against the big bad East Coaster&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: referee12</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-2/#comment-29505</link>
		<dc:creator>referee12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole point of the speed that Oregon runs at is to wear their opponents down. Not being able to sub is on the defense. The offense dictates how quickly things move. So if the bears wanted to substitute then they needed to have them ready to go when the play ended, not have one of their guys go down and fake an injury. If you look at other sports they all have some sort of delay of game penalty. If the Pac-12 is going to deal with this problem then they need to insert a delay of game penalty. Which will be on the shoulders of the officials to call. When it is called then it should be a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. Now how will they know when to call it. Only the official will know. I will bet you that they will get it right 98% of the time.  

The Offense is not a gimmick, if you look around college football alot of teams run the same offense, the ducks just happen to run it at break neck speeds. They take advantage of you being tired. There is no gimmick to it. 

If this continues I am sure that the Pac 12 will have a rule inserted and I am sure they will call it the &quot;Tedford Rule&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of the speed that Oregon runs at is to wear their opponents down. Not being able to sub is on the defense. The offense dictates how quickly things move. So if the bears wanted to substitute then they needed to have them ready to go when the play ended, not have one of their guys go down and fake an injury. If you look at other sports they all have some sort of delay of game penalty. If the Pac-12 is going to deal with this problem then they need to insert a delay of game penalty. Which will be on the shoulders of the officials to call. When it is called then it should be a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. Now how will they know when to call it. Only the official will know. I will bet you that they will get it right 98% of the time.  </p>
<p>The Offense is not a gimmick, if you look around college football alot of teams run the same offense, the ducks just happen to run it at break neck speeds. They take advantage of you being tired. There is no gimmick to it. </p>
<p>If this continues I am sure that the Pac 12 will have a rule inserted and I am sure they will call it the &#8220;Tedford Rule&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: john james</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-2/#comment-29504</link>
		<dc:creator>john james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey I&#039;m a Duck fan and it was obviously cheating.

Tedford shoud be asshamed of himself. He&#039;s a Duck alumni for God&#039;s sake.

This is football not Cal weenie ball.

Get with it and man up.

That video really told the tale...case closed... with you Cal politically corrects...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I&#8217;m a Duck fan and it was obviously cheating.</p>
<p>Tedford shoud be asshamed of himself. He&#8217;s a Duck alumni for God&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>This is football not Cal weenie ball.</p>
<p>Get with it and man up.</p>
<p>That video really told the tale&#8230;case closed&#8230; with you Cal politically corrects&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john james</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-1/#comment-29503</link>
		<dc:creator>john james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cal fans are big babies.

Video is pretty obvious

Get with it and don&#039;t try the intellitual stuff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal fans are big babies.</p>
<p>Video is pretty obvious</p>
<p>Get with it and don&#8217;t try the intellitual stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Blazerfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blazerfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And why are you complaining about illegal hits, come on you are telling me Cal played a completely clean game?  Football is a contact sport and hits happen some are clean and some aren&#039;t on both teams.  Get over your pity party Cal fans, you lost, Scoreboard Baby!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why are you complaining about illegal hits, come on you are telling me Cal played a completely clean game?  Football is a contact sport and hits happen some are clean and some aren&#8217;t on both teams.  Get over your pity party Cal fans, you lost, Scoreboard Baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Blazerfan</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-1/#comment-29501</link>
		<dc:creator>Blazerfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is interesting that all of the comments from Cal fans whine about Oregon complaining, get a grip NOT ONE Oregon coach said anything about it, Coach Chip Kelly&#039;s response was let them fall down, get up, and we&#039;ll run another play, we are not going to concern ourselves with what they are doing, we&#039;ll just stick to our game plan.  And can someone explain to me how the spread option is a gimmick?  You run the ball and pass the ball, isn&#039;t that what all teams are doing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that all of the comments from Cal fans whine about Oregon complaining, get a grip NOT ONE Oregon coach said anything about it, Coach Chip Kelly&#8217;s response was let them fall down, get up, and we&#8217;ll run another play, we are not going to concern ourselves with what they are doing, we&#8217;ll just stick to our game plan.  And can someone explain to me how the spread option is a gimmick?  You run the ball and pass the ball, isn&#8217;t that what all teams are doing?</p>
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		<title>By: milo</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-1/#comment-29499</link>
		<dc:creator>milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay UO fans...look for either a rule change on defensive subbing. You guys made a deal out of...and now you guys might get your just desserts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay UO fans&#8230;look for either a rule change on defensive subbing. You guys made a deal out of&#8230;and now you guys might get your just desserts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bears07</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/11/17/football-did-cal-fake-injuries/comment-page-1/#comment-29494</link>
		<dc:creator>Bears07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[44 comments and I&#039;ve yet to hear how Oregon fans suggest opposing teams get their regular defensive subsititutions in in-between plays.  It&#039;s simply impossible at the pace you run your offense.  Do you think the other 118 teams in NCAA wouldn&#039;t want to substitute players on defense?  Anyone sitting in the SEC with 350 pound linemen claiming they wouldn&#039;t do the same is just lying.

The key distinction is this.  Tedford didn&#039;t tell his players &quot;hey, if Oregon gets 3 first downs, fall down so we can slow down their drive.&quot;  Tedford&#039;s (or Pendergast&#039;s) instructions were more likely &quot;hey, if you need a sub, go down so we can get you out of the game.&quot;  Has nothing to do with how well the Oregon offense is rolling (or not rolling) at the time.  It has everything to do with players needing subs.

And for the record, it&#039;s not &quot;blatantly illegal&quot; as all of you guys claim.  The furthest you can go is to say it&#039;s &quot;frowned upon&quot; but there&#039;s nothing in the rule book making this illegal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>44 comments and I&#8217;ve yet to hear how Oregon fans suggest opposing teams get their regular defensive subsititutions in in-between plays.  It&#8217;s simply impossible at the pace you run your offense.  Do you think the other 118 teams in NCAA wouldn&#8217;t want to substitute players on defense?  Anyone sitting in the SEC with 350 pound linemen claiming they wouldn&#8217;t do the same is just lying.</p>
<p>The key distinction is this.  Tedford didn&#8217;t tell his players &#8220;hey, if Oregon gets 3 first downs, fall down so we can slow down their drive.&#8221;  Tedford&#8217;s (or Pendergast&#8217;s) instructions were more likely &#8220;hey, if you need a sub, go down so we can get you out of the game.&#8221;  Has nothing to do with how well the Oregon offense is rolling (or not rolling) at the time.  It has everything to do with players needing subs.</p>
<p>And for the record, it&#8217;s not &#8220;blatantly illegal&#8221; as all of you guys claim.  The furthest you can go is to say it&#8217;s &#8220;frowned upon&#8221; but there&#8217;s nothing in the rule book making this illegal.</p>
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