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Basketball: Ashley commits to Arizona

Former Bishop O’Dowd HS star Brandon Ashley, who will play his senior season at Findlay Prep outside Las Vegas, has orally committed to Arizona. Cal has long been out of the sweepstakes for this 6-foot-8, elite-level national prospect, but his decision to play at Tucson only further confirms that UA coach Sean Miller is rebuilding the dynasty that Lute Olson created.

Scout.com ranks Ashley as the nation’s No. 3 overall prospects, No. 1 at power forward. Rivals.com places him No. 13 overall prospect in the class of 2012.

 

Jeff Faraudo

  • mike

    Can we get a coach who can recruit?

  • SteveNTEXAS

    Mike when I say this or compare Cals’ lame recruiting Rollon and a few others have a cow. I disagree slightly and think Monty is a great coach in OTHER respects but one has to have the talent to win.

    Meanwhile ESPN ranks IU’s 2012 class #1. Creen goes to every recruiting event. Great players out of the Bay Area end up going elsewhere.

  • Rocko

    The guy is a one and doner, is that what you really want? Why did he transfer to Finley Prep? The last guy who played at O’Dowd and then transfered his senior year to another school look what happend to him.

  • discdude

    Steve-

    I only rag on you because generally you are negative about Monty and the Bears, but the results don’t lie: this team has been much better the last 3 years with him here and it’s only going to get better. It’s like a big ship, you can’t turn it around on a dime, especially with a cerebral coach over 60 (btw, how did Quin Snyder work out at Missouri? Not well, despite the hype and the high level recruits).

    I tend to agree with you actually, it’s very very disappointing that he hasn’t been able to land a major 5-star recruit. If he landed a Kevin Love type this season, I think you’d be looking at a top 15, maybe top 10 team. But while at Stanford, it was a slightly different era. He landed some top players, but outside of the Lopez twins and maybe Childress, the rest were not at the top level that you might expect (Collins twins and Justin Davis were more raw than Lopez twins, Jacobson developed, and Brevin Knight was not even a 3-star recruit, he was lightly recruited). I’m not sure where people saw him as a top-level recruiter, he never was, and Stanford is a unique program.

    I think we all need to understand (and I’ve personally seen Monty talk twice) that he is NOT recruiting one-and-dones. He’s in the twilight of his career and he’s just not looking to work with a guy who *might* bring a title, watch him go the NBA, and then have a hole in the roster. Look at UCLA, they are still in recovery from the NBA exodus 2 and 3 years ago, and this year they lost more players. That team has some serious holes and smart money is that Cal is better than UCLA this year despite Josh Smith and his 300 lbs.

    Monty is not always looking for diamonds in the rough, either. He’s looking for fit for 3 to 4 years, more than anything, and today’s top 30 HS players don’t give a rat’s *ss about being in a program for more than 1 or maybe 2 years. What Monty needs to find are the kids who are academically strong, top 50 to 100, and plans to stay…sorta like Crabbe, right? But we need 2 to 3 per year and we probably need some beef at some point since he excels at working with big men. This was somewhat of a down recruiting year, but with the program rolling now and hopefully some decent hype this year, I’m really looking for some impact players next fall. If he doesn’t land a few solid ones, then I’ll be really disappointed.

  • SteveNTEXAS

    Disc you are absolutely wrong. Cody Zeller one of the top 10 recruits in the nation has a 3.99 average and visited the business schools of each of his finalists before he chose Indiana over North Carolina.

    Its not like Cal is just missing the top 20 -we recently were ranked 10th in the Pac 10 recruiting.

    As for those ranked 50-100 that may not make the cut for the very top schools, exactly how many of our 2011 and 2012 even make this much lower standard?

    I would not prefer the one and done types but if it consistently lands a team in the top 20 its better than being shut out,especially from a revenue standpoint.

    I may be wrong but when MOnty took over we were better than Arizona its program was decimated. With its 2012 class it will dominate Cal.

    I like our football recruiting and monty is a good coach but I want us to be at the top of the conference and not just every 5-10 years. What does Arizona or any of these school have that we don’t?

  • discdude

    But when has Monty ever landed a recruit, other than the Lopez twins and Childress, that the big basketball powers coveted? It’s never been his nature to recruit the top 20 players. At Cal, he’s now out there competing with the top programs based on what, one NCAA tourney in 2010? Cal’s stellar 30 year basketball history? Jason Kidd was a loooong time ago. We’re competing with Indiana and North Carolina now? Fuggedaboutit, it’s not happening, so don’t even entertain that thought.

    And Miller was a great hire for Zona, they have a huge basketball history that we’ll never surpass. Miller was a proven entity at Xavier, all the kids know about him, no surprise (it was the coaching mess with Lute, O’Neill, Floyd that made that program stall). We’ve never competed much with Zona on recruits and I don’t expect us to any time soon. That is an NBA pipeline. I appreciate the passion that we can get to that level, but that’s not happening any time soon.

    I do see upside in getting a one-and-done if it’s a major major up year, but let’s be brutally honest, some of those guys might not qualify. And no one like Zeller is even thinking about Cal, Cal’s name cache is about 50th. Now, win the P12 again this year and make some noise in the tourney with a deeper run (Elite 8?), and then Monty will be able to do something.

    Look, this is a very tough recruiting conference, every team not named Zona, UCLA, and UW is starting out at least in 4th at this point. Altman is going to turn Oregon around with that new arena, Utah is not a cupcake and actually has a better history than Cal, Colorado just sent 2 guys to NBA, WSU/ASU/USC are not cakewalks, but you’d think we’d be better than them on the recruiting front. Time will tell, but I think the ship will continue to turn around. At the minimum, I’d like to see him lock up a high level Bay Area recruit for next year.

  • discdude

    I should have address your top 50 to 100 comment: there are roughly 300 teams, but only about 125 will compete for the NCAA tourney. If each team recruits an average of 2.5 per year, that’s about 300 recruits each year. I’d love to have a top 50 guy every year, yes. I’d love to have 2 or 3, but that just won’t happen at Cal, at least not right now. So yeah, I’ll take a top 50, and maybe a guy in the 50 to 100 range. That’s not settling, that’s the reality of the numbers.

  • rollonubears

    Steve, Arizona has hot chicks, and more hot chicks, better weather during the school year and very easy classes. Plus a rich basketball tradition. Ben Braun could put a top 25 team together down there.

    They’ll always have better opportunities to recruit, just as UCLA does. The only way I would ever see us getting better initial (high school) talent would be if we had just hired the hottest coach in the country. I think Monty’s a great coach. I’m mostly disappointed that we haven’t gotten any big men who can dominate. Even the tall guys we’ve been getting have been rather scrawny and weak. We need a couple tree trunks at the post. I wouldn’t trade Crabbe for anyone in the conference, and I think we have a really good shot at the tournament this year.

    I do wish people cared more about cal hoops than they do. Such a sense of apathy. We’re really lucky to have a decent program at all. I’ve gabbed at length about the ridiculous ticket situation, but I still think that has a lot to do with it. The students who DO go are spirited, there just aren’t enough of ‘em there. Nothing sounds quite as awesome as the cal band indoors, either.

  • gobears49

    I think Monty’s done an OK recruiting job at Cal. If it was true that Trent Johnson got most of the best recruits for Stanford, then Monty’s overall recruiting record for Stanford and Cal is not very good. Still, I believe Crabbe was the Cal player of the year in high school and will probably be in the NBA by the time he would be senior, and I think Gutierrez has a chance to play pro (at point guard) and may be the Pac 12 player of the year (don’t laugh).

    Whoever wrote that Monty developed whatever he had at Stanford and turned it into greatness probably has it right. I, too, would like to have better recruits, but hopefully consistently good records, as Cal has had under Monty, will make that happen more frequently than it has in the past.

  • BlakeStreetBear

    I’d rather watch Jorge, Harper, B Smith and A Crabbe battle and battle and battle the way they do than watch some top 10 recruit dominate the game physically just because he can. I loved Leon Powe, no doubt he was a great great player who was physically superior to everyone else on the court. He won many games by himself but the overall arc of the team was not so hot his seasons, coaching aside. On the other hand, basketball is a TEAM game and the TEAM part of it is greater than the sum of its individual players, all basketball fans know this. Many top 10 recruits do not. I’ll take an unrated Jorge any year over a big ole tree in the middle, even if that tree was greg oden or somebody like that. Jorge IS basketball, the big tall guys just “play” basketball cuz they are big and tall. Height helps, but quickness and determination are better, at least at the college level.

  • SteveNTEXAS

    Good points

    Reading Blake’s post illustrates our difference in perspective.

    Living in Texas I won’t be able to watch Cal on TV with my friends UNLESS they are good. If they aren’t in the national picture, they won’t even be in the conversation.

    If only Texas and Texas A&M had joined the Pac 12.. 14…

  • discdude

    Wow Steve, now I’m starting to think you really are a Cal fan! Get yourself DISH or Directv and the regional sports package, almost every game was on in some manner last year and this year will be even better with the new agreements.

    Onward to football, Go Bears!!!!

  • SteveNTEXAS

    Wow – I’m starting to think you can read.

  • discdude

    Hey now, I was trying to be nice because for the first time in any of your posts ever, you acknowledged that other people had good points, rather than just refuting. So, I’ll ignore the snide remark for now…as I said before…onward to football, Go Bears!