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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2011/11/25/football-cal-asu-first-quarter-recap/comment-page-2/#comment-64955</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greid...here, here!  Excellent post!  As for the status of the Cal football program, I feel like there is some serious leadership lacking...I&#039;m not talking about Tedford...I am speaking of Sandy Barbour and the Chancellor!

What is the vision of the Cal althletic program and specifically what role does Cal football play?  

Under Chancellor Tien, for the 1st time...Cal publically stated that a goal for all athletic teams was to win their conference championship...prior to Tien, there was no clear objective in terms of winning or losing.  And since Tien, the Cal administration has sent contradictory signals of the importance of playing to win.  Paying its football coach top dollar (11th highest paid coach in the country), yet accepting sub-par performances for 6 consective seasons (2005 - 2010) without a hint of holding the coach accountable for the status of the team.

I personally don&#039;t believe that winning championships in college football these is possible without compromising the rules/or integrity/ or morale values.  I&#039;m not sure that winning championships should be a stated goal for Cal...but I do take issue that Cal has not clearly determined what they what...and I feel that Cal is currently &quot;half pregnant&quot;...what I mean by that is...they are paying Tedford...big time money....Cal is developing faciliticites that are &quot;state of the art&quot; .... which leads most followers into thinking that Cal is seeking to compete for Championships with this type of investments in its football program.  Accepting anything less, seems foolish given the expense.  I just want to hear from Sandy Barbour and/or the Chancellor regarding the prioritization of winning for its athletic programs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greid&#8230;here, here!  Excellent post!  As for the status of the Cal football program, I feel like there is some serious leadership lacking&#8230;I&#8217;m not talking about Tedford&#8230;I am speaking of Sandy Barbour and the Chancellor!</p>
<p>What is the vision of the Cal althletic program and specifically what role does Cal football play?  </p>
<p>Under Chancellor Tien, for the 1st time&#8230;Cal publically stated that a goal for all athletic teams was to win their conference championship&#8230;prior to Tien, there was no clear objective in terms of winning or losing.  And since Tien, the Cal administration has sent contradictory signals of the importance of playing to win.  Paying its football coach top dollar (11th highest paid coach in the country), yet accepting sub-par performances for 6 consective seasons (2005 &#8211; 2010) without a hint of holding the coach accountable for the status of the team.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t believe that winning championships in college football these is possible without compromising the rules/or integrity/ or morale values.  I&#8217;m not sure that winning championships should be a stated goal for Cal&#8230;but I do take issue that Cal has not clearly determined what they what&#8230;and I feel that Cal is currently &#8220;half pregnant&#8221;&#8230;what I mean by that is&#8230;they are paying Tedford&#8230;big time money&#8230;.Cal is developing faciliticites that are &#8220;state of the art&#8221; &#8230;. which leads most followers into thinking that Cal is seeking to compete for Championships with this type of investments in its football program.  Accepting anything less, seems foolish given the expense.  I just want to hear from Sandy Barbour and/or the Chancellor regarding the prioritization of winning for its athletic programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Greid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks - I too had BLIND enthusiasm and hope for the Cal Bears success for many years.  Life  has taught me that BLIND enthusiasm and hope only will not breed success.  In fact it breeds status quo.  Success comes from continuously and realistically evaluating the situation, identifying faults, digging into the cause and SOLVING it....along with hard work.

We&#039;ve had many reasons for hope in the past: Riley saving the team in the Armed Services Bowl.  Beating Stanford several years ago.  Nothing has changed because we did not solve the problem.

Very little has changed since earlier this season.  We had a good night against ASU.  So did UCLA.  Is UCLA any better able to compete?  The USC game would suggest otherwise.

I&#039;m all for the thrill and excitement of a win.  Celebrate and enjoy.  But, don&#039;t let it cloud your analysis of what needs to be done to make Cal a BCS contender (we should not be paying Tedford $2.9M for any less of a goal).  We need to send a message to Sandy that change is needed.

Many of you will not like my post and many of you will disagree with me.  Remember this thread next season when Cal faces it&#039;s first serious team in the PAC-12. I predict the same result as the last 6 seasons.

For those who have followed this blog for awhile, look at my similiar posts four years ago that had the same message.  Here we are four years later - mediocrity and staus quo.

Jim - nice comeback! I&#039;m laughing myself..30 years and I&#039;m JUST NOW frustrated!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks &#8211; I too had BLIND enthusiasm and hope for the Cal Bears success for many years.  Life  has taught me that BLIND enthusiasm and hope only will not breed success.  In fact it breeds status quo.  Success comes from continuously and realistically evaluating the situation, identifying faults, digging into the cause and SOLVING it&#8230;.along with hard work.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had many reasons for hope in the past: Riley saving the team in the Armed Services Bowl.  Beating Stanford several years ago.  Nothing has changed because we did not solve the problem.</p>
<p>Very little has changed since earlier this season.  We had a good night against ASU.  So did UCLA.  Is UCLA any better able to compete?  The USC game would suggest otherwise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for the thrill and excitement of a win.  Celebrate and enjoy.  But, don&#8217;t let it cloud your analysis of what needs to be done to make Cal a BCS contender (we should not be paying Tedford $2.9M for any less of a goal).  We need to send a message to Sandy that change is needed.</p>
<p>Many of you will not like my post and many of you will disagree with me.  Remember this thread next season when Cal faces it&#8217;s first serious team in the PAC-12. I predict the same result as the last 6 seasons.</p>
<p>For those who have followed this blog for awhile, look at my similiar posts four years ago that had the same message.  Here we are four years later &#8211; mediocrity and staus quo.</p>
<p>Jim &#8211; nice comeback! I&#8217;m laughing myself..30 years and I&#8217;m JUST NOW frustrated!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rollonubears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pac12 champ game is bowl enough for ucla.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pac12 champ game is bowl enough for ucla.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UCLA has apparently asked for a waiver (from the NCAA, I guess)to be allowed to go to a bowl game with a losing record.  They will be 6-7 after the idiotic Pac 12 Championship game.

Don&#039;t see how the NCAA allows that and what bowl game wants the first team with a losing record anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCLA has apparently asked for a waiver (from the NCAA, I guess)to be allowed to go to a bowl game with a losing record.  They will be 6-7 after the idiotic Pac 12 Championship game.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t see how the NCAA allows that and what bowl game wants the first team with a losing record anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: go8ears</title>
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		<dc:creator>go8ears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 06:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow... UCLA scoreless throughout the game.. loses to USC 50-0... they lose on both fronts this year: US News rankings and football... must not be fun to be a ucla fan..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; UCLA scoreless throughout the game.. loses to USC 50-0&#8230; they lose on both fronts this year: US News rankings and football&#8230; must not be fun to be a ucla fan..</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be interesting to see the impact that the new Stadium and football facilities will have on recruiting this year...Cal had very strong recruiting classes that past 2 years (ranked #11 and 17th nationally).  It also will be interesting to see how the players from these past two classes develop and perform next year.

Meanwhile...Erickson is out at ASU....I still think Mike Leach would be a great fit...I still remember how he thoroughly out-coached and out schemed Tedford in the HOliday Bowl back in &#039;04.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see the impact that the new Stadium and football facilities will have on recruiting this year&#8230;Cal had very strong recruiting classes that past 2 years (ranked #11 and 17th nationally).  It also will be interesting to see how the players from these past two classes develop and perform next year.</p>
<p>Meanwhile&#8230;Erickson is out at ASU&#8230;.I still think Mike Leach would be a great fit&#8230;I still remember how he thoroughly out-coached and out schemed Tedford in the HOliday Bowl back in &#8217;04.</p>
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		<title>By: Rollonubears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of talk about cal in the holiday bowl, but we&#039;re looking at 5th place in the PAC, so I&#039;m not sure how we&#039;d get the bowl meant for the rose bowl runner up. Anybody know why they would take us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of talk about cal in the holiday bowl, but we&#8217;re looking at 5th place in the PAC, so I&#8217;m not sure how we&#8217;d get the bowl meant for the rose bowl runner up. Anybody know why they would take us?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice win.  Whereas last week was a solid performance, we finally saw what Maynard could do against a decent defense.  It really makes a difference when you have him run, roll out, and pass to the TEs.  Had this been in place during UW, Oregon, U$C, or UCLA, this really could have been a special year.  But there a lot of pieces in place to make a very strong next year.  With the talent on the team, a 9-win season should be expected.

I have been extremely critical of Tedford since 2008.  But when there is a good coaching effort, I think it is important to recognize that.  Last night the offensive game was definitely solid, creative, played to our strengths and played to ASU&#039;s weaknesses.  It reminded me of the 2002/2003 game plans, where we had good (but not great) players, but what allowed us to beat Michigan State and Virginia Techs of the world were smart offensive game plans.  

As for our defense, while not great last night, Osweiler happens to be an excellent QB.  He was let down by some drops and fumbles, and the game was much closer than the score indicated - easily could have come down the last possession.

And I echo the many ASU fans - Erickson has got to go.  Idiotic penalties may work when he was at Miami, or even OSU in 2000, but not with a team like ASU.

And the refs upheld the honorable tradition of being the worst conferences refs in the country.  The number of extraordinarily bad calls (on both sides) was embarassing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice win.  Whereas last week was a solid performance, we finally saw what Maynard could do against a decent defense.  It really makes a difference when you have him run, roll out, and pass to the TEs.  Had this been in place during UW, Oregon, U$C, or UCLA, this really could have been a special year.  But there a lot of pieces in place to make a very strong next year.  With the talent on the team, a 9-win season should be expected.</p>
<p>I have been extremely critical of Tedford since 2008.  But when there is a good coaching effort, I think it is important to recognize that.  Last night the offensive game was definitely solid, creative, played to our strengths and played to ASU&#8217;s weaknesses.  It reminded me of the 2002/2003 game plans, where we had good (but not great) players, but what allowed us to beat Michigan State and Virginia Techs of the world were smart offensive game plans.  </p>
<p>As for our defense, while not great last night, Osweiler happens to be an excellent QB.  He was let down by some drops and fumbles, and the game was much closer than the score indicated &#8211; easily could have come down the last possession.</p>
<p>And I echo the many ASU fans &#8211; Erickson has got to go.  Idiotic penalties may work when he was at Miami, or even OSU in 2000, but not with a team like ASU.</p>
<p>And the refs upheld the honorable tradition of being the worst conferences refs in the country.  The number of extraordinarily bad calls (on both sides) was embarassing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The team competed to finish out the regular season and win or lose that is what we want to see.  That is promising and Maynard playing well is also promising.  You play to win the game so no matter how 55-54 or 3-0 it is about winning and competing.  Here&#039;s to hoping that Tedford can get the edge back that he had 6-7 years ago.  Expectations will be high again in 2012 based upon this finish let&#039;s hope they can play close to or above their potential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The team competed to finish out the regular season and win or lose that is what we want to see.  That is promising and Maynard playing well is also promising.  You play to win the game so no matter how 55-54 or 3-0 it is about winning and competing.  Here&#8217;s to hoping that Tedford can get the edge back that he had 6-7 years ago.  Expectations will be high again in 2012 based upon this finish let&#8217;s hope they can play close to or above their potential.</p>
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		<title>By: wehofx</title>
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		<dc:creator>wehofx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent, Leach at asu would be interesting.  Another rock staar hc in the pac 12 would be a good thing.

Bobby/#49 RE: Player&#039;s tweets.  Could you - and JS - tweet to players to #Calfb?  Or are # and twitter discouraged by JT?

Another entertaining thread to read, esp CalD/#54.

Go Bears!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, Leach at asu would be interesting.  Another rock staar hc in the pac 12 would be a good thing.</p>
<p>Bobby/#49 RE: Player&#8217;s tweets.  Could you &#8211; and JS &#8211; tweet to players to #Calfb?  Or are # and twitter discouraged by JT?</p>
<p>Another entertaining thread to read, esp CalD/#54.</p>
<p>Go Bears!</p>
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