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		<title>By: GoGo Bears</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2011/12/15/football-cals-2004-rose-bowl-snub-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-72923</link>
		<dc:creator>GoGo Bears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The saddest thing of all of this is that Boyson is probably the most important person in the troll&#039;s life.  The troll is OBSESSED with Boyson.  He posts more about Boyson than football.

Check this link
It&#039;s the troll&#039;s sfgate account as the9drawfs
Check ALL The posts about Boyson

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/contribute/sn/persona?plckPersonaPage=PersonaMessages&amp;plckUserId=the9drawfs&amp;User=the9drawfs


Just like the troll obsessed and spent two whole days posting hate about Cal FORTY-TWO times (in just 2 days) he also obsesses about Boyson.

BUT -- I guess that&#039;s normal.  he has no friends (9:42 pm saturdaynight posting, new year&#039;s eve postings), he has no gf (valentine&#039;s day night postings) he has no law degree, and he has no fellow fans.  Go look to see if you can find morencsarecoming on We Are SC forum -- you won&#039;t.  The reason the troll hates boyson is that boyson was instrumental in getting the troll banned permanently from Bear Insiders, and from all other scout sites.

So pity the troll.  HIS ONLY PASSION IN LIFE IS HIS HATE FOR BOYSON AND FOR CAL.  IT IS TRULY
ALL
HE
HAS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The saddest thing of all of this is that Boyson is probably the most important person in the troll&#8217;s life.  The troll is OBSESSED with Boyson.  He posts more about Boyson than football.</p>
<p>Check this link<br />
It&#8217;s the troll&#8217;s sfgate account as the9drawfs<br />
Check ALL The posts about Boyson</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/contribute/sn/persona?plckPersonaPage=PersonaMessages&#038;plckUserId=the9drawfs&#038;User=the9drawfs" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/contribute/sn/persona?plckPersonaPage=PersonaMessages&#038;plckUserId=the9drawfs&#038;User=the9drawfs</a></p>
<p>Just like the troll obsessed and spent two whole days posting hate about Cal FORTY-TWO times (in just 2 days) he also obsesses about Boyson.</p>
<p>BUT &#8212; I guess that&#8217;s normal.  he has no friends (9:42 pm saturdaynight posting, new year&#8217;s eve postings), he has no gf (valentine&#8217;s day night postings) he has no law degree, and he has no fellow fans.  Go look to see if you can find morencsarecoming on We Are SC forum &#8212; you won&#8217;t.  The reason the troll hates boyson is that boyson was instrumental in getting the troll banned permanently from Bear Insiders, and from all other scout sites.</p>
<p>So pity the troll.  HIS ONLY PASSION IN LIFE IS HIS HATE FOR BOYSON AND FOR CAL.  IT IS TRULY<br />
ALL<br />
HE<br />
HAS.</p>
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		<title>By: GoGo Bears</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoGo Bears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2005.  Old news.    Boyson was cleared.  Still working.


2011   42 messages in two days on the UTex forum -- all about hating Cal and Cal fans.
 
Saturday night 9:42 pm posting -- guess someone has no friends to spend weekends with.

Law school degree?  Never gonna happen.  Say hi to the Travel Agency.


The little lonely troll can only repeat the false accustations from 2005 over and over again.  But just in the past few days -- 42 posts!   9:42pm posting! -- we&#039;ve seen the proof that he&#039;s all alone and just has his computer for companionship.

PLEASE -- pity that troll.  THIS is all he has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2005.  Old news.    Boyson was cleared.  Still working.</p>
<p>2011   42 messages in two days on the UTex forum &#8212; all about hating Cal and Cal fans.</p>
<p>Saturday night 9:42 pm posting &#8212; guess someone has no friends to spend weekends with.</p>
<p>Law school degree?  Never gonna happen.  Say hi to the Travel Agency.</p>
<p>The little lonely troll can only repeat the false accustations from 2005 over and over again.  But just in the past few days &#8212; 42 posts!   9:42pm posting! &#8212; we&#8217;ve seen the proof that he&#8217;s all alone and just has his computer for companionship.</p>
<p>PLEASE &#8212; pity that troll.  THIS is all he has.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone notice that Nick Saban pulled a pretty slimy act by lowering the ranking of Oklahoma St. from 3 to 4 AFTER OSU pummeled Oklahoma...why is he able to keep in voting rights?

Reminded me a bit of Mack Brown.  Gundy meanwhile, played to role of Jeff Tedford...by modestly stating that Alabama should be ranked ahead of OSU, prior to OSU blasting OU...of course after OSU crushed OU, Gundy made his case in an appropriate manner.  While Gundy&#039;s team got gypped...he earned my respect.

A fitting end, would be for Alabama to defeat LSU in a close game...but the AP poll still keeps LSU as #1 despite losing the BCS Championship game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone notice that Nick Saban pulled a pretty slimy act by lowering the ranking of Oklahoma St. from 3 to 4 AFTER OSU pummeled Oklahoma&#8230;why is he able to keep in voting rights?</p>
<p>Reminded me a bit of Mack Brown.  Gundy meanwhile, played to role of Jeff Tedford&#8230;by modestly stating that Alabama should be ranked ahead of OSU, prior to OSU blasting OU&#8230;of course after OSU crushed OU, Gundy made his case in an appropriate manner.  While Gundy&#8217;s team got gypped&#8230;he earned my respect.</p>
<p>A fitting end, would be for Alabama to defeat LSU in a close game&#8230;but the AP poll still keeps LSU as #1 despite losing the BCS Championship game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article by Jeff. But he needs to provide a little more depth into the subject, including who Cal lost to that year, which was USC, what was USC’s record that year, and who Texas lost to and that team’s record (which I don’t know). He should also discuss, just for background purposes, the pressure that was put on Cal to beat its last opponent, Southern Mississippi, by an “acceptable” margin and what was Cal’s ranking versus Texas in the final weeks of the season. Finally, the best argument that Texas people have that their team should have been selected was Cal’s subsequent loss in the Holiday Bowl. Tedford should be asked for a comment on what the team attitude was in playing that game after the decision that Cal would not play in the Rose Bowl. No doubt the team’s disappointments translated in them not being as up for that game as they normally would have. It should also be pointed out about Cal’s injuries coming into the Holiday Bowl game.

In spite of my comments, it is nice to read that some good came out of Cal getting gypped in not being selected to play in the Rose Bowl. Additionally, it is nice to read that another coach, Mike Gundy, has learned from the mistakes of Mack Brown in not politicking for his team to play in a certain bowl game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article by Jeff. But he needs to provide a little more depth into the subject, including who Cal lost to that year, which was USC, what was USC’s record that year, and who Texas lost to and that team’s record (which I don’t know). He should also discuss, just for background purposes, the pressure that was put on Cal to beat its last opponent, Southern Mississippi, by an “acceptable” margin and what was Cal’s ranking versus Texas in the final weeks of the season. Finally, the best argument that Texas people have that their team should have been selected was Cal’s subsequent loss in the Holiday Bowl. Tedford should be asked for a comment on what the team attitude was in playing that game after the decision that Cal would not play in the Rose Bowl. No doubt the team’s disappointments translated in them not being as up for that game as they normally would have. It should also be pointed out about Cal’s injuries coming into the Holiday Bowl game.</p>
<p>In spite of my comments, it is nice to read that some good came out of Cal getting gypped in not being selected to play in the Rose Bowl. Additionally, it is nice to read that another coach, Mike Gundy, has learned from the mistakes of Mack Brown in not politicking for his team to play in a certain bowl game.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Cal got screwed because of the Mack Brown lobbying, the team that had no business getting a BCS Bowl Bid in 2004 was the Big East Champion, Pitt. For the life of me I can&#039;t see how the Big East deserves an automatic BCS bid, they are little more than the Mountain West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Cal got screwed because of the Mack Brown lobbying, the team that had no business getting a BCS Bowl Bid in 2004 was the Big East Champion, Pitt. For the life of me I can&#8217;t see how the Big East deserves an automatic BCS bid, they are little more than the Mountain West.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreSanctionsComing</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreSanctionsComing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The unwanted troll MoreNCsarecoming Says: 

_____________________________________________________
An blog incident between a troll and a UC Berkeley page led to explosive diarrhea of the mouth by said troll and to allegations of stupid and unwanted troll comments against the team the blog was created for.

In addition, there are related allegations that the troll was improperly qualified for Cal (the school she hates) or USC ( the school she loves). The incident has raised questions about the sanity of the troll.

The situation began with a psychotic break between the troll and herself, alone in her dark little room in the basement where she spends most of her time. 

It does not appear that the troll will go away no matter how much anyone on the blog wishes she would.

Cal fans allege that during the course of the thousands of confrontations, the troll has been discredited and completely rejected.


“I should have taken my meds,” the paper quoted the Moren troll as saying. “I know on my part I made a mistake but I will NEVER apologize! I&#039;m glad everyone hates me!”

Neither the troll nor and of her multiple personalities could be reached and brought back to reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unwanted troll MoreNCsarecoming Says: </p>
<p>_____________________________________________________<br />
An blog incident between a troll and a UC Berkeley page led to explosive diarrhea of the mouth by said troll and to allegations of stupid and unwanted troll comments against the team the blog was created for.</p>
<p>In addition, there are related allegations that the troll was improperly qualified for Cal (the school she hates) or USC ( the school she loves). The incident has raised questions about the sanity of the troll.</p>
<p>The situation began with a psychotic break between the troll and herself, alone in her dark little room in the basement where she spends most of her time. </p>
<p>It does not appear that the troll will go away no matter how much anyone on the blog wishes she would.</p>
<p>Cal fans allege that during the course of the thousands of confrontations, the troll has been discredited and completely rejected.</p>
<p>“I should have taken my meds,” the paper quoted the Moren troll as saying. “I know on my part I made a mistake but I will NEVER apologize! I&#8217;m glad everyone hates me!”</p>
<p>Neither the troll nor and of her multiple personalities could be reached and brought back to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: jabes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, and I have said this before (and won&#039;t say it again), ESPN is just as much to blame as Mack if not more so.  They reiterated the story about Cal needing to win big at So Miss (generating ratings for that game), they hyped the Tx fans at that game over-and-over and kept repeating the storyline about Cal needing to prove something (lazy journalism), and no matter what the Pac10 and Rose Bowl folks wanted Disney/ESPN/ABC had to figure that Texas/Michigan would drag in more national viewers than Michigan/Cal.  The fact that now the Rose Bowl isn&#039;t appointment television to the Pac8 fanbase anymore may or may not balance out the additional interest they drummed up for the 2005 Rose Bowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, and I have said this before (and won&#8217;t say it again), ESPN is just as much to blame as Mack if not more so.  They reiterated the story about Cal needing to win big at So Miss (generating ratings for that game), they hyped the Tx fans at that game over-and-over and kept repeating the storyline about Cal needing to prove something (lazy journalism), and no matter what the Pac10 and Rose Bowl folks wanted Disney/ESPN/ABC had to figure that Texas/Michigan would drag in more national viewers than Michigan/Cal.  The fact that now the Rose Bowl isn&#8217;t appointment television to the Pac8 fanbase anymore may or may not balance out the additional interest they drummed up for the 2005 Rose Bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: jabes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t undefeated Auburn #3?  Regardless, #s 1-3 plus three other teams had automatic bids.  With the two at-large bids taken, even though the Rose Bowl had the right to replace a Pac-10 team in the BCS #1/#2 game, they were restricted to Texas and Boise State (or was it Utah? -- regardless it was the non-BCS conference team at #6)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t undefeated Auburn #3?  Regardless, #s 1-3 plus three other teams had automatic bids.  With the two at-large bids taken, even though the Rose Bowl had the right to replace a Pac-10 team in the BCS #1/#2 game, they were restricted to Texas and Boise State (or was it Utah? &#8212; regardless it was the non-BCS conference team at #6)</p>
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		<title>By: jabes</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There were only two at large spots in the BCS in 2004--today there are four.

One went to #6 Boise State because of the rule that a non-BCS conference team in the Top 6 was guaranteed a BCS at large bid.

With one at large spot left, the next rule was that any team in the top 4 got an at large bid, so Texas at #4 got that bid and no BCS bowl could select Cal at #5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were only two at large spots in the BCS in 2004&#8211;today there are four.</p>
<p>One went to #6 Boise State because of the rule that a non-BCS conference team in the Top 6 was guaranteed a BCS at large bid.</p>
<p>With one at large spot left, the next rule was that any team in the top 4 got an at large bid, so Texas at #4 got that bid and no BCS bowl could select Cal at #5.</p>
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		<title>By: Uh Huh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uh Huh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jeff:

Can you answer a question for me?
2 actually.

1) If Cal was 5th in the final (reg season) BCS poll, who were 3 and 4? Texas and (who)?

2) I have been running under the assumption that the Rose Bowl selection committee had the right to CHOOSE who they wanted in the Rose Bowl, despite the fact that Cal was 5th and Texas (3rd or 4th). Can you confirm this for me?  I have been peeved at the Rose Bowl selection committee since 04 because I feel they should NOT have gone with whoever was ranked higher (Tx) but should have shown some allegiance to the Pac 10 in their selection. It was honestly a toss up who to choose, and I think they should have gone with the traditional Big10-Pac10 rivalry for that game.  I don&#039;t think they were bound by any clause in the BCS polling that MADE them take TX over Cal, right?

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff:</p>
<p>Can you answer a question for me?<br />
2 actually.</p>
<p>1) If Cal was 5th in the final (reg season) BCS poll, who were 3 and 4? Texas and (who)?</p>
<p>2) I have been running under the assumption that the Rose Bowl selection committee had the right to CHOOSE who they wanted in the Rose Bowl, despite the fact that Cal was 5th and Texas (3rd or 4th). Can you confirm this for me?  I have been peeved at the Rose Bowl selection committee since 04 because I feel they should NOT have gone with whoever was ranked higher (Tx) but should have shown some allegiance to the Pac 10 in their selection. It was honestly a toss up who to choose, and I think they should have gone with the traditional Big10-Pac10 rivalry for that game.  I don&#8217;t think they were bound by any clause in the BCS polling that MADE them take TX over Cal, right?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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