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		<title>By: BlueNGold</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueNGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is true that Tedford was originally hired by Steve Gladstone as interim AD. But Barbour extended his contract, and that seems to be the big bone of contention among those in the Tedford-Must-Go camp; particularly the buy out provisions that are seen as making an early termination financially unlikely. Of course, there was a lot more optimism from fans and the community at large for doing so at the time of the extension than seems to exist now.I guess only time will tell whether the decision was the best move, but given where the program is now compared to where it had been or could have remained, I am not convinced that Sandy made the wrong decision there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that Tedford was originally hired by Steve Gladstone as interim AD. But Barbour extended his contract, and that seems to be the big bone of contention among those in the Tedford-Must-Go camp; particularly the buy out provisions that are seen as making an early termination financially unlikely. Of course, there was a lot more optimism from fans and the community at large for doing so at the time of the extension than seems to exist now.I guess only time will tell whether the decision was the best move, but given where the program is now compared to where it had been or could have remained, I am not convinced that Sandy made the wrong decision there.</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 07:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post #19-Gladstone hired Tedford when he was interm AD, not Sandy, she came a few years later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post #19-Gladstone hired Tedford when he was interm AD, not Sandy, she came a few years later.</p>
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		<title>By: milo</title>
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		<dc:creator>milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Besides hire Monty, elevate the AD on the whole, Sandy Barbour still gets a round of applause because she had the cojones to rebuild Memorial and take on the SAHPC...AND WIN. 

C&#039;mon Bear fans, you know how things work at Cal...just barely and you have to kick butt and take names to get something done. Well Sandy got it done. 

Now about Wilner, what a freakin&#039; doucheweasel for quoting a Stanfurd weasel in the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides hire Monty, elevate the AD on the whole, Sandy Barbour still gets a round of applause because she had the cojones to rebuild Memorial and take on the SAHPC&#8230;AND WIN. </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Bear fans, you know how things work at Cal&#8230;just barely and you have to kick butt and take names to get something done. Well Sandy got it done. </p>
<p>Now about Wilner, what a freakin&#8217; doucheweasel for quoting a Stanfurd weasel in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no financial guru (I just sue people who purport to be financial gurus) but I am curious whether Cal offered projections of ticket sales and attendence in connection with its financing, and the assumptions it made in making those projections.  Anyone know if that is publicly available (or subject to a FOIA request)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no financial guru (I just sue people who purport to be financial gurus) but I am curious whether Cal offered projections of ticket sales and attendence in connection with its financing, and the assumptions it made in making those projections.  Anyone know if that is publicly available (or subject to a FOIA request)?</p>
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		<title>By: rollonubears</title>
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		<dc:creator>rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The facilities are huge, and the baseball and rugby fiascos were deplorable, but those programs were ultimately spared, and she wasn&#039;t &quot;asleep at the wheel&quot; while that happened. The swim teams have won back to back national titles, and the softball team is poised to do just that. I think we&#039;re somewhere in the top 5 in overall rankings. It&#039;s easy to look at football and basketball, and honestly, those are the only sports I care about, but her body of work, including hiring tedford, firing braun, and hiring monty, should also be considered. She&#039;s played her cards right. Tedford was a huge part of getting this stadium built. Most alumni still like him, and those are the ones paying the bills, so she has to wait another year. I think she&#039;s done a really good job, but I don&#039;t want to see a tedford contract extension unless we win a pac12 title this year or next. i&#039;ll be calling for her head, too, if she locks teddy up for another 5 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facilities are huge, and the baseball and rugby fiascos were deplorable, but those programs were ultimately spared, and she wasn&#8217;t &#8220;asleep at the wheel&#8221; while that happened. The swim teams have won back to back national titles, and the softball team is poised to do just that. I think we&#8217;re somewhere in the top 5 in overall rankings. It&#8217;s easy to look at football and basketball, and honestly, those are the only sports I care about, but her body of work, including hiring tedford, firing braun, and hiring monty, should also be considered. She&#8217;s played her cards right. Tedford was a huge part of getting this stadium built. Most alumni still like him, and those are the ones paying the bills, so she has to wait another year. I think she&#8217;s done a really good job, but I don&#8217;t want to see a tedford contract extension unless we win a pac12 title this year or next. i&#8217;ll be calling for her head, too, if she locks teddy up for another 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Juancho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juancho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The financing thing is too complex for me to figure out.

But - what isn&#039;t too difficult is the past few years Sandy has had a few hiccups, and I wonder how long she will last if we don&#039;t start getting some big wins in Football.

*Baseball and Rugby being dropped
*Big Game being moved earlier and earlier in the season, this year it will be in October
*The AT&amp;T Park Home Games Fiasco - which isn&#039;t really Sandy&#039;s fault
*The Tosh Lupoi Fiasco, which again we can debate who&#039;s fault it was, but even if it is best he left (debatable), it put egg on the program&#039;s face
*Poor ticket sales for the new stadium, and higher than ever prices

I sincerely feel bad for her. She was probably looking forward to tomorrow&#039;s event. Now she&#039;s probably dreading it. I would be if I would her. 

Positives of her tenure:

*The new facilities]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The financing thing is too complex for me to figure out.</p>
<p>But &#8211; what isn&#8217;t too difficult is the past few years Sandy has had a few hiccups, and I wonder how long she will last if we don&#8217;t start getting some big wins in Football.</p>
<p>*Baseball and Rugby being dropped<br />
*Big Game being moved earlier and earlier in the season, this year it will be in October<br />
*The AT&amp;T Park Home Games Fiasco &#8211; which isn&#8217;t really Sandy&#8217;s fault<br />
*The Tosh Lupoi Fiasco, which again we can debate who&#8217;s fault it was, but even if it is best he left (debatable), it put egg on the program&#8217;s face<br />
*Poor ticket sales for the new stadium, and higher than ever prices</p>
<p>I sincerely feel bad for her. She was probably looking forward to tomorrow&#8217;s event. Now she&#8217;s probably dreading it. I would be if I would her. </p>
<p>Positives of her tenure:</p>
<p>*The new facilities</p>
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		<title>By: rollonubears</title>
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		<dc:creator>rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quality product on the field will solve all of the problems. Last year&#039;s team was another disappointment, and AT&amp;T tickets were way overpriced. Tedford&#039;s on the hot seat, and we got a pretty good class. I think he gets 2 chances in the new stadium to win 10 games in a season.  If we don&#039;t go at least 10-and-something this year or next, then it comes down to finding a great coach. Nobody knows what the market will have in 2 years, but I think Petersen is a guy who we could get. He went to Davis, and would be a wonderful addition. He, or someone like him (a program changer) would sell ESP seats in a hurry. The Tedford brand is old and tired. The enthusiasm for him was what got this stadium built, though, and that&#039;s really all it will take to solve this problem, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quality product on the field will solve all of the problems. Last year&#8217;s team was another disappointment, and AT&amp;T tickets were way overpriced. Tedford&#8217;s on the hot seat, and we got a pretty good class. I think he gets 2 chances in the new stadium to win 10 games in a season.  If we don&#8217;t go at least 10-and-something this year or next, then it comes down to finding a great coach. Nobody knows what the market will have in 2 years, but I think Petersen is a guy who we could get. He went to Davis, and would be a wonderful addition. He, or someone like him (a program changer) would sell ESP seats in a hurry. The Tedford brand is old and tired. The enthusiasm for him was what got this stadium built, though, and that&#8217;s really all it will take to solve this problem, too.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcordBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConcordBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s no secret that Wilner has his pockets filled on the side by Arriaga.  He slants against Cal every chance he gets and is clearly biased due to his own corrupt under the table dealings. 
It&#039;s true Cal has not sold has many ESP seats as they need to but the first game in the stadium is still months away. 
The one thing that is clear is that Sandy Barbour needs to get on her horse and lead the sales effort to sell more of these tickets.  ESP is a program only a select group can afford, the AD must reach out, get creative and produce.  Has she bought ESP seats for herself?  I hope so!  She can afford it, so can many other Cal employees.  They all need to buy in, that will make their sales effort much more effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no secret that Wilner has his pockets filled on the side by Arriaga.  He slants against Cal every chance he gets and is clearly biased due to his own corrupt under the table dealings.<br />
It&#8217;s true Cal has not sold has many ESP seats as they need to but the first game in the stadium is still months away.<br />
The one thing that is clear is that Sandy Barbour needs to get on her horse and lead the sales effort to sell more of these tickets.  ESP is a program only a select group can afford, the AD must reach out, get creative and produce.  Has she bought ESP seats for herself?  I hope so!  She can afford it, so can many other Cal employees.  They all need to buy in, that will make their sales effort much more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNGold</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueNGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading the WSJ article, which seemed to be intent on suggesting dire outcomes based mostly on speculation, the Wilner column and the Cal response. I am inclined to agree with Vice-Chancellor Wilton that the entire financing arrangements for both the stadium and training center are very complex and should be judged and evaluated on a long term basis; not simply the revenue raised to date by the ESL program. If things get to the point that there is a danger of inadequate revenue to cover the debt service, then that would be great cause for concern. But we are not there now and are a long way from that being reality.  
Of course, the ticket sales over time are going to have a big impact on whether the financial planning in place succeeds or does not. Lets hope the football program will draw in the fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the WSJ article, which seemed to be intent on suggesting dire outcomes based mostly on speculation, the Wilner column and the Cal response. I am inclined to agree with Vice-Chancellor Wilton that the entire financing arrangements for both the stadium and training center are very complex and should be judged and evaluated on a long term basis; not simply the revenue raised to date by the ESL program. If things get to the point that there is a danger of inadequate revenue to cover the debt service, then that would be great cause for concern. But we are not there now and are a long way from that being reality.<br />
Of course, the ticket sales over time are going to have a big impact on whether the financial planning in place succeeds or does not. Lets hope the football program will draw in the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be great to see all of the visiting fans (35%) sitting in those dedicated Bear backer seats. That&#039;s the only way you will get those filled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be great to see all of the visiting fans (35%) sitting in those dedicated Bear backer seats. That&#8217;s the only way you will get those filled.</p>
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