Basketball: Bruins score another big recruit

UCLA zoomed to the top of ESPN’s recruiting list — probably others, too — after McDonald’s All-America center Tony Parker joined the Bruins.

Parker, a 6-foot-9, 270-pounder, joins Kyle Anderson Shabazz Muhammad and Jordan Adams to give the Bruins an elite four-man class.

Jeff Faraudo

  • David

    Well, it definitely helped that UCLA hired Parker’s AAU coach last summer.

  • kyle

    Nothing like having 4 one and done’s in one recruiting class. Well done Bruins well done.

  • Wilson1802

    kyle…that approach of getting one and done players seems to work for Calipari…what would you rather have…a team full of one and done players OR a team full of mediocre talent players who stay all four years, but barely make the NCAA tournament each year?

  • discdude

    Yes, we want to win, but never at the expense of a full team of rental players, sorry. And Calipari has experience doing that, let’s see how well it works out for the Bruins. Howland’s best teams had Collison, Farmar, and Afflalo running the show, already experienced players when Howland arrived. When the talent ran out, so did the wins. He’s recruited way more top 50 players these last few years than Monty and…what happened? It’s likely that 2 or 3 of these guys is only going to be there 1 year, can he make it gel in that short period? Will they buy into the Howland system? He’s been a poor judge of talent/character these last few years, we shall see. What’s more amazing (but so true) is how much the name “UCLA” means to kids. Apparently no one saw that recent expose on how he runs the team.

    I would love to see at least one top 50 player at Cal, though.

  • Gdog

    If any of you read the remarks by the President of the NCAA I am not sure that the “One & Done” model is going to exist much longer. These kids are only eligible for 1 semester of school and after that they don’t even have to go to class if they are going to opt for the draft. NCAA is not happy with the situation and they are pushing to change it. He remarks that “It is difficult to tout these players as Student-Athletes”. He also says “It is not the NCAA’s mission to have the best players playing…We are willing to sacrifice that for the integrity of our sport.” Not a knock on UCLA, good for them, just a comment about the situation in general. The kids are just following the rule right now that requires them to be at least 1 year removed from High School.

  • Esquire Joe

    I would love for those words to be translated into action by the NCAA to clean up recruiting and get rid of one-and-dones, but unfortunately, talk is about all they seem to be willing to do about it. It’s not like they’re losing money with the current, corrupt system.

    And not to pile on, Wilson, but did you just use Calipari as an example of “success”? Could you point to the college program that he’s helmed that HASN’T had to vacate a final four? And I wouldn’t say Kentucky, because there already are allegations that he’s up to his same old tricks there. It seems to be just a matter of time for him to leave UK in disgrace and have to vacate the 2012 championship as well (unless Anthony Davis’s dad was smart enough not to deposit that $200k in a bank account).

    I’ll take those five mediocre guys who stay all four years. The thing I love most about college basketball is how, year after year, an underrated, veteran team destroys teams packed with one-and-dones in the tourney.

    I don’t want Cal to be more like Kentucky, or even UCLA. But I wouldn’t mind them being more like VCU or Gonzaga.

  • discdude

    I would love a 3-year requirement, just like baseball and football. It would return so much to the players, student athletes, and fans. The guys who would hate it? NBA owners. I can see the argument both ways, but why not open up the NBA direct from HS again for those that are ready (LeBron, etc), otherwise it’s 3 years in college, Euroball, or somewhere else. Forcing one-and-doners into 1 semester of class (if that) and calling them students is crazy and only helps the NBA, not the kids or the sport.

  • Gdog

    I believe that they are leaning toward removing any “wait period” alltogether and kids can go straight from High School to NBA again and having a minimum requirement like 2 years if a kid does enter college. I am not so sure about the just talk comment, look at Connecticut and their post season ban for academics. I’m sure when that came out Calhoun and their compliance department thought it was a bluff. Well who is laughing now?

  • Paul Thomas

    College basketball cannot force the NBA to hire 18-year-olds. I also fail to see how it could force college teams to stop recruiting “one and dones,” because it’s impossible to tell who they are until they declare for the draft. There’s no certainty that any particular player will be “one and done” when you’re recruiting him, only a greater or lesser likelihood.

    I can’t fathom how you could condemn a kid by saying he’s not allowed to play amateur ball before he actually, you know, isn’t an amateur anymore. And at that point, he’s no longer around to be punished! So punishing the players is out.

    And if the “solution” is just retroactive punishment of coaches whose players turn pro… well, all I can say to that is that there’s a reason that reputable justice systems don’t punish one person for another person’s offense.

  • discdude

    I’m not following Paul. The NBA is the one with the rule the doesn’t allow high school players to go directly to the NBA. It’s not really the NCAA’s problem to solve, it’s the NBA that’s “forcing” kids to “attend” classes for essentially 1 semester before dropping out around April 1 to get ready for the draft (or wait a year doing something else). I don’t blame them for leaving immediately, in fact, I think it’s punishment for the kid, the school, and the fans to force that kid to attend a college for 1/2 a year just because the NBA says so. You can get other jobs out of high school, why not pro basketball?

    Wouldn’t it be better to be like MLB, where the kids have the choice? They can go pro or go to college, but once they choose college, they have to stay for 3 years before they can get drafted again. And the baseball draft comes BEFORE they have to decide on attending college, so they can see where they were drafted and what their future might hold. That’s empowerment for the kids and in their best interest. I see some danger in that basketball is different because there are far few spots, but I like the MLB model which has some similarities since the D-league exists. Football is much different, most kids aren’t physically ready and there is really no minor league football.

  • SteveNTEXAS

    ESPN just listed Dick Vitale’s top 40 for next year. Some like him some don’t.

    Anyway there are 4 Pac 12 Schools in there Arizona UCLA Oregon and Stanford.

  • rob bear

    These guys (FUCLA Recruits) are 18 year kids that will be playing against a hungry Richard Solomon and a now seasoned Thurman. Bring em on, ’cause I think that with those two guys, Crabbe, Cobbs, the freshman All Pac 10 kid and anything resembling an okay bench, we will be just fine in the PAC 12. Who cares about the NBA. It’s a notch above WWE Wrestling. College basketball is where it’s at and we WILL compete this coming year in PAC 12 Basketball. GO BEARS!!!!

  • Yoda

    It’s an NBA rule, but the NBA doesn’t seem to think it’s working that great either, and they do need to have a working relationship with the NCAA to some extent. The baseball rule, or a modified version, would be beneficial to both I think. As things stand right now, college basketball is a joke. That “student-athlete” phrase is a travesty at this point. Why bother making the athletes go to school at all if they just have to cover one semester?

  • David

    They should really just open up the D-league to high school graduates.

  • B

    “Nothing like having 4 one and done’s in one recruiting class. Well done Bruins well done.”

    Do you have any perspective at all on how many one and done’s are typical for any given class? Last year 9 freshmen entered the draft, including Enes Kanter (who never played in an NCAA because he was declared ineligible). 10 sophomores entered the draft. 23 juniors entered the draft. There are only 60 draft spots, and most draft picks don’t end up sticking in the NBA. How big of a problem do you really think this is? For some perspective, Rivals ranks UCLA’s recruits #1, #3, #27 and #62. Do the math. Chances are Tony Parker will still be around his junior year, and Jordan Adams will likely never stick in the NBA just by looking at recruiting rankings.

    The notion that college basketball has somehow turned into a joke because of one and dones? Please. Have some perspective. It’s barely an issue, you only notice it because kids like Anthony Davis these days are just that good that early in their careers. So far this year I count all of 8 freshman that have declared for the draft. If you think 8 players can turn NCAA basketball into a joke, I don’t know what to tell you. Talk about an overblown issue…

  • Juancho

    This is neither here nor there but i wouldnt have a problem with us winning a national title with 4 one and done recruits.

    This is sports. I look to our nerds for the academics. I dont follow our sports teams to follow gpas or see what guys are studying.

    When Kidd was at Cal i never once thought about his academics. Nor Rodgers. Nor Desean. Nor Powe. Nor Boller.

  • southseasbear

    Juancho: Kidd, Rodgers, Desean, Powe, and Boller stayed more than one year.

    The one and done situation could be remedied by not requiring the school to wait a year or two before offering the scholarship to another player (particularly if the departing player didn’t maintain a minimal GPA in is last semester).

  • Juancho

    Southseasbear, I know they did. That was my point. They stayed all those years and I never once said, boy I sure do care about their academics. I don’t watch the sports teams for any academic reasons. I was an academic. They aren’t and won’t be. They’re there on sports scholarships.

    I’m for the rule that players stay 3 years. If it doesn’t change, then let’s win within the rules, which allow for 1 and done.

    Shareef Abdur Rahim, I never cared about his grades.
    Jamal Saampson, never cared about his grades.
    Marquis Kately, never cared about his grades.
    Dominic McGuire never cared about his grades.

    All this academic talk on tv is really too high and mighty. The SEC doesn’t make all their money on the academics of those athletes. And I personally don’t watch any Cal sports b/c of the academic performance of those athletes. I watch them for the reason they got a scholarship in the first place, sports.

  • SteveNTEXAS

    I’d rather win with 4 yr players of course. However as a second preference, I’d rather win with One and Done than what we have now.

    Why? Kentucky gets lots of attention and money because they win. This attracts not only basketball players but students who are basketball fans-it also gives the school (mostly good) publicity.