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Football: Cal releases spring two-deep chart

By Jeff Faraudo
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012 at 5:03 pm in Football, Spring practice.

For those who haven’t seen it, Cal has released its post-spring two-deep chart.

You can find it here. Obviously, it is very fluid and, aside from punter Cole Leininger, does not include any of the incoming fall freshmen.

For instance, no backup wide receivers are listed because the coaching staff expects at least a couple of the five newcomers to have an impact.

Likewise, defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast told me today that Aaron Tipoti, who missed all of spring, also will see action at defensive end. Pendergast also said OLB Cecil Whiteside could swap sides and challenge Dan Camporeale for the starting spot.

 

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  • Juancho

    Challenge Camporele? Wtf. Whitsedide and Camporele are not comparable players. Wow. Whiteside better start.

  • B

    Why do you say that?

  • Calduke

    Current receivers should be listed as backup until beaten out by the incoming players.

    Wrong message.

  • Juancho

    Because Whiteside was hands down better than Camporele last year. As was mccain and wilkerson.

  • Hungry

    Good to see that McClure is on the list (2nd). He must be recovering well.

  • http://deleted calfaninaz

    if you watched any cal game last year you would have noticed that whiteside is 10x the playmaker compared to campo.

    wilk, mccain, whiteside, and forbes need to be starters.

  • kyle

    its the SPRING 2-deep. Relax. The fall 2-deep will be different in certain spots…i.e. linebacker. Chill out!

  • covinared

    whiteside is clearly a superior athlete, but there is more to olb than rushing the passer.

  • covinared

    is Ladner still on the team?

  • ConcordBear

    That’s exactly right, more to OLB like playing the run. Whatever the outcome I love the talent and competition at LB. Don’t forget Jason Gibson,
    Bouza and McGovern will be in the mix at WR. Other than the stud fixture in Allen there will be competition and talent at that position around him. Things will be different at the end of camp.
    More noteworthy than who is on the chart is who is not.
    King
    Moala
    Williams (OL)
    To name a few that are not in two deep right now.

  • B

    Sure, Whiteside may be more of a playmaker than Campo, and he very clearly has wayyyyyyyy more potential, but if you think it’s as easy as making a few big plays…I dunno what to tell you. Consistently being in the right spot, maintaining your assignment…those are important parts of playing the position. The coaching staff’s usage of Whiteside thus far pretty clearly shows they don’t think he’s a complete and consistent player. He’s generally only on the field as a specialist – mostly in obvious passing downs as a pass rusher. Succeeding in that role does not mean he’s ready to be a 3 down player.

    “Current receivers should be listed as backup until beaten out by the incoming players.

    Wrong message.”

    It could also send the message not to take things for granted and less talented guys like Bouza/McGovern can never stop working their tails off if they want to see the field. It can tell them they aren’t ready yet and they need to keep at it before they are. Every move like that can be interpreted in multiple ways…I find it a bit odd when people try to act like there’s a clear right/wrong way to handle a situation that’s so subjective.

  • Juancho

    Respectfully disagree with B. i guess Camporele didnt look better to me as a fan last year. But thats okay. Get the best guys for the job on the field and win.

    I also expect mike barton to get time as a true freshman.

  • http://deleted calfaninaz

    I also disagree. Campo lacks the speed to keep contain. He is a liability in outside runs, and offers very little in terms of pass rush.

    Whiteside has superior speed and playmaking ability. The only reason I can think of for why he isn’t starting is that he hasn’t mastered the playbook.

    Campo is a sure tackler and smart player. I just don’t see the necessary athleticism to play OLB.

  • Juancho

    Thought this was interesting. Don’t click if you’re trying to avoid Tosh Lupoi:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskyfootballblog/2018117293__former_cal_qb_nate.html

    Nate Longshore is an offensive coordinator at Santa Margarita High.

  • B

    “Whiteside has superior speed and playmaking ability. The only reason I can think of for why he isn’t starting is that he hasn’t mastered the playbook.”

    You don’t think things like being in the right position might matter…? There’s more to the game than just knowing the playbook, you have to read and react to what everyone around you is doing and put yourself in the right position. Maybe Campo holds his position and holds off blockers better. Maybe he’s more often in the right position to force the ball carrier to find another lane. Maybe he tackles more consistently. Maybe he’s more often in the right place in coverage and has more general awareness. Maybe he gets fooled by things like jukes, misdirection and playaction less easily and doesn’t end up running out of position to tackle a RB when the QB has the ball. I’d guess the coaching staff would tell you it’s some combination of some of these items, and there’s probably more I left out or don’t know about. Campo lacks the athleticism, we all agree with that…but it doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t the best option, at least for most plays. Guys will rotate and get to play to their strengths, regardless of who’s starting.

    “Respectfully disagree with B. i guess Camporele didnt look better to me as a fan last year.”

    I don’t necessarily disagree, but of course, as fans we aren’t going back and carefully watching the film and grading their play with detailed knowledge of their assignment. Maybe the coaches see a bunch of the hypothetical stuff I raised earlier when they analyze film. Who knows? Also, like I pointed out – keep in mind Whiteside played most of the season as a specialist, and played in packages designed to play him to his strengths, not his weaknesses. Whiteside is probably the most talented pass-rushing LB on the team right now. 3rd and long is his time to shine. Even if he doesn’t start, expect to see him on the field often when the team needs a pass rush. That’s how they used him last year.

    Anyways, at the very least, these guys will constantly be competing with each other for PT.

  • http://deleted calfaninaz

    B: Have you watched cal games? It doesn’t matter if campo is in the right position because he is too slow to get to the ball carrier. After campo was named the starter I watched for him, always kept an eye out for #43. He was virtually non-existant. I noticed on sweeps he was too slow to get to the ball and lacked any sort of ability to get to the passer. He was often engulfed in a blocker and out of the play. I trust our coaches. If Campo is the guy, I support them 100% percent. They get paid to do this, I’m just a fan. As a fan, I saw nothing from him to warrant starting. He was a sure tackler and seemed to be in the right position. That is it. In 10 starts he had 15 tackles, No sacks, No forced fumbles, no fumbles recoveries, No ints, etc.

    Cecil was a strait beast. He ONLY played in 7 games. He had 18 tackles, and 3 sacks. He also provided heavy pressure on the QB, consistently.

    I want the best for my team, and the best players starting. In my opinion cecil is a game changing player who opposing coaches fear. Campo is not. That being said, I have faith that Clancy and JT will get the best players on the field.

    go bears!!

  • ConcordBear

    I love Cecil’s potential. I hope he’s ready to be an every down player this fall. He has the talent to be and I hope it all comes together by Sept. If he is ready the Cal D will be that much better because he has great tools.

  • BA

    Calfaninaz,
    You sound like the message board dolts on BI. B, on the other hand, sounds pretty well informed. There are a variety of assignments for which the OLB is responsible and Whiteside fails repeatedly on some of the most important assigment. As stated, he is a very talented athlete, but is too light and too easy to block. Then there is the small problem of failing to cover his man/zone, repeatedly. It is my understanding that the coaches are disapointed with his (lack of) progress. Scarlett is the guy who could swoop in and take the position.

  • Steve W.

    I saw Camp over commit on fakes and get burned around the end numerous times last season, and I certainly was not keying on his play. The coaches are probably just sending a message to the more talented linebackers on the roster who may be playing out of position or not mastering the d playbook. I predict that other players will get more time on the field this fall.

  • Juancho

    I disagree with the opinion that Whiteside isn’t as good in coverage or on assignments as Camporele. And if he needs work on that – then coach him up. That’s why there’s coaches on the staff.

    Whiteside was a Freshman last year. Not even a redshirt freshman. He greyshirted, which essentially means he wasn’t part of the program until last year. Camporeale was a redshirt junior.

    And with regard to players who have great potential not progressing fast enough, news flash – that’s coaching. The conservative thing to do is play the older guy who knows the game plan better. That’s been a knock on coach T for a while, especially when it comes to offense. We play not to lose. And you often hear criticism about how the playbook is way over complicated and instead of just letting talented guys play, it becomes too much.

    The weird thing about the Whiteside / Camporeale thing is that it’s Pendergast. The other thing that’s concerning is Moala. Apparently he’s re-writing the Cal record books in the weight room, but he’s not cracking the two deep?

    I’m sure I’m reading too much into Pendergast’s comments. And I bet that Whiteside starts. And I hope Moala gets it going too. And if there are other guys who are better than them in game situations, then those other guys should play. I just wonder how much each player’s ability to perform during games is impacted positively and negatively by the current coaching staff.

  • B

    “I love Cecil’s potential. I hope he’s ready to be an every down player this fall. He has the talent to be and I hope it all comes together by Sept. If he is ready the Cal D will be that much better because he has great tools.”

    Agree with this completely. The sooner the young guys with monster potential like Whiteside earn their way into the starting lineup the better. If he’s out there starting next year, you know it’s because he’s progressing as a player and showing he deserves it – which is exactly what we’re all hoping for. Same thing with Moala…that he isn’t on the 2-deep yet may indicate he’s not really ready to be a really productive player despite his physical tools…but when he does start earning his PT, it’s a very good sign for the future.

    “The coaches are probably just sending a message to the more talented linebackers on the roster who may be playing out of position or not mastering the d playbook.”

    That could definitely explain it, too. In the end this is just a spring depth chart and doesn’t mean all that much. What matters is who’s actually out on the field come game time.

  • http://deleted calfaninaz

    BA: Message board dolts? Whatever…

    “I saw Camp over commit on fakes and get burned around the end numerous times last season, and I certainly was not keying on his play. The coaches are probably just sending a message to the more talented linebackers on the roster who may be playing out of position or not mastering the d playbook. I predict that other players will get more time on the field this fall.”

    THIS!! I agree. Campo was burned consistently in coverage.