Football: Pac-12 coaches await details on proposed playoff system

Pac-12 Conference football coaches won’t know what to think about a proposed four-team national championship playoff until they get the details.

“The questions all of us had are how are the teams going to be picked,” Oregon coach Chip Kelly said on a Pac-12 coaches teleconference Tuesday. “No one really has that answer. Until you get that answer, I reserve judgment on whether it’s good system or a bad system.”

New Arizona coach Rich Rodriguez said the topic was discussed at length during Pac-12 meetings last week in Arizona. “The biggest thing is how is it going to get voted on, who’s going to make the decision on who’s 1 through 4?” he said.

The tide seems to have turned from the much-criticized Bowl Championship Series format to a playoff. A proposed four-team playoff would begin in 2014.

Until the nitty gritty is hammered out, most coaches aren’t quite sure what to think.

“There’s a lot of questions that need to be answered,” Cal coach Jeff Tedford said.

Tedford is among the coaches who favor an eight-team playoff over a four-team setup.

“One of the sentiments is an eight-team playoff probably gives everyone an equal chance,” he said. “I don’t know if you’re ever going to have a situation where everyone is happy.

“If we’re going to do the playoff thing, let’s do it whole-heartedly and go after it.”

Utah coach Kyle Whittingham agreed.

“If we’re going to go into the playoff system, let’s go full-fledged into it with eight teams,” he said. “At first glance, that would be six BCS conference champions and two at-large teams. To me, that seems like a pretty good formula.”

By going that route, Whittingham said, the subjective human element is minimized. “I want to get away from people voting to determine who’s going to have a shot, to get away from the popular vote and settle it on the field.”

Whittingham suggested that time zone differences hinder the Pac-12 because many poll voters are in bed before Pac-12 night games are complete. Arizona State coach Todd Graham confirmed that was a problem for him when he was at Tulsa and had a vote in the coaches poll.

“I had to get up the next morning before I found the outcome of a lot of the  scores in the Pac-10,” Graham said.

If the format is going to involve just four teams, there seems a consensus among the Pac-12 coaches interviewed that those spots should go to confererence champions. Translation: A four-team playoff should not involve two entries from the Southeastern Conference.

The SEC has won six straight BCS national titles, and last season climaxed with a championship game matching SEC rivals Alabama and LSU.

“I would hate to see a four-team playoff and have two teams in the same conference,” ASU’s Graham said. I hope we don’t have that.”

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany recently told CBS Sports that conference champions ranked among the top six in the national poll would have preference, according to one model being considered. If there are not four top-six champs, a non-champion at-large team could be picked.

Pac-12 coaches worry that their nine-game conference schedule is disadvantageous in terms of maintaining an elite national ranking. Most conferences, including the SEC, play just eight league games, allowing them to hand pick another non-conference foe.

“Obviously, if you expand the number of teams, then the criteria can be a little bit different,” Kelly said. “If it’s going to be a smaller number, I  think you have to do something on the field to get there.”

Asked what format he favors, Kelly joked, “The top team in the state of Oregon gets an automatic bid and then . . .”

Jeff Faraudo

  • 707 Bear

    Grumpy Old Man Alert:

    One more action done for the love of money that degrades the college football experience. Remember when college football was played in the afternoon on Saturdays in the fall and the ultimate reward for Cal was to play in the Rose Bowl on January 1?


    1. Ruining the Pac 10 with its excellent 9-game–play everyone every year–schedule to add a conference playoff.
    2. Cal will be required to play a 6PM Friday night game every two years. Terrible for people with jobs or who live away from Cal. Remember the Thursday night game against USC. What an experience! So exciting that USC only brought half its hated band and didn’t do a halftime show. Sad chapter in a great tradition.
    3. Remember when timeouts at Memorial were filled with the sound of the Cal Band or the opposing band? Can’t wait to get to the New Memorial where every available second will be filled with ads from Paul Blanco Chevy or At@T.

    I await your abuse.

    Go Bears!

  • Jan K Oski

    Counter Grumpy Old Man Alert:

    There once was a time in college football, when the forward passes weren’t allowed and players played dirty to the tune of a few deaths every year. Thank goodness changes occurred. Gotta wonder if the same will be said after the playoff comes to Saturday football…

  • BlueNGold

    I think Tedford is right about an 8 team vs. a 4 team playoff system. I guess we will have to wait to see how this one unfolds.

  • c98

    I like an 8-team system better too. Regardless of how the 8 are chosen, the 9th team in an 8-team system has a far less credible case to make that they deserve a shot at the national championship than the 5th team in a 4-team system.

  • 10-team playoff, top 6 get 1st round byes. Simple – if you are in the top ten then you are in the playoff.

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    Of course Tedford wants an 8 team system. However with even a 24 team system you guys still won’t have what it takes to play in a BCS game.

  • rollonubears

    Is it that hard to take a half day from work, once every two years? “cough cough, i’m not feeling well.”

    i’m for an 8-team playoff, too, especially with all the non-major conference teams complaining all the time. that would probably stop. i’m glad this will start in 2012. we should be a top 4 team then, at least at some point in the season. favorable home schedule. incredible qb, lots to look forward to. maybe even a new head coach.

  • BlueNGold

    And the sleazy cheaters will never see a title game that they earned honestly and by playing within the rules.

  • Hail2Calif

    Grumpy – not too long ago there were quite a few seasons when we only played 8 conference games – back before we went from an 11 game to 12 game season. Back then, the California schools had an exemption to play each other every season – but reality was the entire Pac-10 only played 8 conference games.

    Others – I too agree if you are going to do this, then you should at least go to 8. Last season, you would have had Alabama, LSU, Ok State and Stanford in your final 4. Two of those teams didn’t even win their conference DIVISIONS (Alabama and Stanford both finished 2nd in their divisions) or have to play in a conference championship game.

  • 707 Bear


    I realize we used to play only 8; but we had a 9 team play everyone format that was scrapped so we could play a Friday night conference championship game during the first week in December.

    This conference championship game is one reason why we’re playing the Big Game in October.

    My point was that these changes are being made for one reason: MONEY!

    The only upside I see for the new Pac 12 is that all road games will be on TV.

    Three months and 20 days until Go Bears!

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    HAHAHA you should go over to Bear Insider and jump onto the thread I started over there. You might learn something.

    Oh but wait. You can always wait for the next update from the esteemed advisor who enjoys letting everyone know about his football contacts.

  • GoGo Bears

    Let’s remember to congraulate all the students who graduate soon. Getting a degree — undergrad or law school — is tough to do. Remember to congratulate the winners who stuck it out and graduated and didn’t wuss out and quit their program.

    And remember to honor your friends! Go out on friday and saturday nights with your friends!

    IT must be great to be a graduate and have friends. It must be so hard for those losers without either. Let’s take a moment and pray for the poor losers with no friends who quit their college program!


  • GoGo Bears

    Hey Moron: Want to provide a link to BI? Or is this another story like how you said you had changed and begged BI not to ban you? Or is this like the time you spent New Year’s Eve home all alone (which year was that? Oh right — all of them) and told us you were alone by choice?

    Bahahahahah. I love lonely trolls. Remember to pity the troll folks — THIS IS ALL HE HAS.

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    Just like I said. Sherm the esteemed advisor has put his latest “Oh please notice me…I know football players” post on BI. This time it was about Mebane.

    So you are taking responsibility for having helped him achieve that 7 on the Wonderlik test?

    How about you posting on SF Gate with all of your assortment of sign ins. I haven’t seen much from Daddy’sLuvChild. Oh but that one got banned. Well then use the SCCheaters unless that one got banned too. Then there is the PastorRick one. Oh but that one got banned. HomeAlone? HalloweenAlone? JahviatCal? USCCoachGreat? CalBandGreat?

    Let’s try this one – socialwelfareadvisorusingtaxpayermoneytostalkontheinternet.

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    If that one should already be taken as a sign in then try this one


  • GOGO Bears

    Ah yes. Let’s recap Moron:
    USC undergrad because he couldn’t get into Cal in spite of the fact his daddy is a rich donor. It’s funny that he slams someone for using contacts to have info because the little troll always mentions the insdie info his daddy gets.
    He got denied by Berkeley Law and had to go to UC Davis law — remember that when he slams UC schools.
    BUT he had to quit UCDavis law. He had a mental breakdown and withdrew.
    From past postings (he’s been doing this for over a decade, folks) he has been posting. He’s exposed as a lonely isolated outkast because he posts on Halloween night, Valentines Day night, and NEW YEAR”S EVE! Conclusion: he’s all alone on those nights — no friends, no gf. He is ALLALONE in the world

    and as for Boyson, he’s been obsessed with him forever: here, check out the comments page of just ONE of his SFGATE’s screen names (again — ironic that he blasts people for lots of SN’s since he does it all the time)

    Check out how Boyson is always in this troll’s head!


    ALL ALONE! Like we say: Pity the troll, this is ALL he has

  • GOGO Bears

    Also notice the lonely troll was unable to provide a link to his supposed BI posting. Cuz he can’t. He’s been banned forever there. The reason he’s obsessed with Boyson is that Boyson worked with Scout and BI people to ban ALL his screen names: morencesarecoming, iamalcindor, iwasalcindor, mebanedt8, kylebollerfan, etc, etc. The little troll predicted that the fat man would not get him banned, and then Boyson did JUST THAT! That’s why he obsesses on Boyson. Also, who else can he obsess on since HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IN HIS LIFE. ALL ALONE ON HOLIDAY! NO FRIENDS. NO GIRLFRIEND. NO SEX!

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAH… Pity the troll, BOYSON is all he has.

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    I am really not into stalking racist, misogynists like you Sherm especially ones who attempt to inflict bodily harm on an innocent female student.

    Then when the Daily Cal and student protestors wanted you terminated you got athletes to rally support for you as well as the young Republicans.

    Go Sherm! Go athletes! Go Young Republicans.

    There was a petition for his removal signed by 441 people. Here were some of the comments.

    “Boyson needs to be removed immediately. His abuse is not welcome on our campus.”

    “We certainly don’t need lowlives like Boyson in this world!”

    “He has horrendous listening skills and approaches students with a guilty-before-proven innocent mentality. His pratices are rude and inconsistent with University standards. How can anyone of this mentality be an advisor to any student? He would be more likely to tell you to jump off the Campenille than to find the help you need. What is sad is that HE SHOULD BE THE HELP. Thank God his office dosen’t have windows, because he should kept out of sight of civilized society. What a horrible person”

    “Boyson has ADMITTED doing exactly what was accused of him. With or without the use of racial slurs this behavior is absolutely inapproproate.”

    Here is my favorite one:

    “This man needs professional mental help.”

    Tragic double standard being played out here folks. Have pity indeed on an inocent black female student.

  • GOGO Bears

    1. You can read all that same bs on the troll’s web site. Notice how he’s saved all the stuff? Like I said: Obsessed with Boyson.
    2. Boyson’s accuser was proven to be lying which is why he still works. However, Moron was asked to leave UC Davis Law School and that’s why he can post at 2pm on weekdays now cuz he sure ain’t working as a lawyer, while Boyson is still working at UCB.
    3. Notice no link to BI. He can'[t post there. He’s lying that he posted there and it’s Boyson who got him banned.
    4. Notice no denial of being all alone on New Year’s eve — cuz that’s true as well — the idiot actually posts on NYE while everone else is having fun. No denial of being a virgin — if moron has been laid, he paid for it.

    The most you got, Moron, is that same old bs of a false accusation. Meanwhile, what you don’t have is a law degree, or friends, or anything else BUT Boyson in your life.

    Pity the troll, folks — this is ALL he has.

  • GOGO Bears

    By the way, I’m pretty sure Boyson posting on BI IMMEIDATELY after your post here was not proof of your valued analysis and powers of prediction. He was taunting you, you little freak. TO show you how sad you are. You would ALWAYS post about your SC connections until Cheating Pete ran away from the school before the Moron hit the fan and they got caught cheating, then the SC coach who pitied you stop giving you info. He was your only friend, right?

    ALL ALONE ON NEW YEAR”S EVE? wow, so pathtetic.

    You can have last word, moron. NO one’s reading what you say anyway since most people use the software to block you just like no one will hang out with you in real life.

    Happy New Year’s Eve moron — bahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • GOGO Bears

    One more word. Check this out. On SFGate, moron is Angermanagement. First off, the sn is about Boyson — as I said, can that troll spell obsess or what? Now look at the comments to a story about state deficits. Again, he posts about Boyson’s department: Social Welfare. Again — BOYSON is all he has in his life. Now for the best part: check the time. SATURDAY NIGHT AND IS HE OUT WITH A GIRL OR WITH FRIENDS? Nope. He’s home posting about Boyson.

    I LOVE it! His obessession with boyson is so huge, and of course his lack of friends is even huger. PITY THE TROLL — BOYSON IS ALL HE”S GOT.

    8:49 PM on May 12, 2012
    Cut back the money to the UCs.
    UCLA has 20 faculty in archaeology department. Really?
    Who needs Sociology, Social Welfare, etc? Make the private colleges offer those as majors.

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    Posts #16, 17, 20, 21, 22 are just the proof needed as to who has the obsession.

    Who is inventing these reports about Boyson. Just google “Sherm Boyson racist, misogynist, petition to fire”.

    As for link on BI why do I need to link my thread when many of the posters know it is me.

    As for the comment about sex not your way Sherm.

    Just like the guy said in the petition to fire Boyson “This man needs professional help.”

  • MoreNCsarecoming

    Boyson said – Now for the best part: check the time. SATURDAY NIGHT AND IS HE OUT WITH A GIRL OR WITH FRIENDS? Nope. He’s home posting about Boyson.

    Boyson posts this on Saturday May 12 at 10:17, 10:22 and 10:37PM. A lot of friends you have. Blowhard!

  • BlueNGold

    If ever a case has been made for an outright banning of the trash talking troll from this blog, the above exchange should be more than ample reason to do so.