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		<title>By: BlueNGold</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2012/09/01/football-nevada-post-mortem-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-119717</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueNGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#37 @Dan- 

Your &#039;half a stadium&#039; comment is just ignorant. For starters, all the bench seats on the east side are new. Then you add in the new scoreboards and video screens, new PA, new food prep facilities, new amenities inside the stadium and better sight lines. The major component of the project was the seismic work which had to be done to make the building usable. And then consider the new access routes and plazas constructed outside the stadium rim. So, the idea that only part of the stadium was upgraded is simply not true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37 @Dan- </p>
<p>Your &#8216;half a stadium&#8217; comment is just ignorant. For starters, all the bench seats on the east side are new. Then you add in the new scoreboards and video screens, new PA, new food prep facilities, new amenities inside the stadium and better sight lines. The major component of the project was the seismic work which had to be done to make the building usable. And then consider the new access routes and plazas constructed outside the stadium rim. So, the idea that only part of the stadium was upgraded is simply not true.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#35 - Dan says

&quot;...I know I’ll get shot for this, I might try to take a shot at Justin Wilcox – IF – he brings back Tosh Lupoi with him. We’d have a top 5-10 class very year and young aggressive coaches that kids will go to war for. Ok shoot me for thinking outside the box a bit and letting bygones be bygones, lol.&quot;

Actually I think most state fans will applaud this. Pastor Rick says why is it when it comes to integrity and character issues it is everyone else&#039;s problem but not ours. 

Fans on this board love to take the high road but if it means missing out on all of those 5* recruits because your major recruiter had enough sense to beat it out of a losing program then instead of settling for the high road you settle for a sewer. That&#039;s your kind of fans. 

At least you are honest about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 &#8211; Dan says</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I know I’ll get shot for this, I might try to take a shot at Justin Wilcox – IF – he brings back Tosh Lupoi with him. We’d have a top 5-10 class very year and young aggressive coaches that kids will go to war for. Ok shoot me for thinking outside the box a bit and letting bygones be bygones, lol.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I think most state fans will applaud this. Pastor Rick says why is it when it comes to integrity and character issues it is everyone else&#8217;s problem but not ours. </p>
<p>Fans on this board love to take the high road but if it means missing out on all of those 5* recruits because your major recruiter had enough sense to beat it out of a losing program then instead of settling for the high road you settle for a sewer. That&#8217;s your kind of fans. </p>
<p>At least you are honest about it.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#37 - Dan

Yes that is correct. 

And you also have a full football team playing the same losing ways under 1/2 of a head coach who makes the most of any state worker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37 &#8211; Dan</p>
<p>Yes that is correct. </p>
<p>And you also have a full football team playing the same losing ways under 1/2 of a head coach who makes the most of any state worker.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 07:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: the stadium- I saw the entire west side and also sat there on the northern 30 yard line.  Apparently the entire east side is virtually the same.  Soooooo ...

We got 1/2 of a new stadium for $321 million?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the stadium- I saw the entire west side and also sat there on the northern 30 yard line.  Apparently the entire east side is virtually the same.  Soooooo &#8230;</p>
<p>We got 1/2 of a new stadium for $321 million?</p>
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		<title>By: shaka</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cawabunga Dan and Wehofx. If fantasy football and Sunday morning qb&#039;ing are the themes of the day, why not throw in a Pete Carroll campaign for 2013. Monty first, then Pete. Bite troll..you can&#039;t help yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cawabunga Dan and Wehofx. If fantasy football and Sunday morning qb&#8217;ing are the themes of the day, why not throw in a Pete Carroll campaign for 2013. Monty first, then Pete. Bite troll..you can&#8217;t help yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect to the few on here that pointed out it was only the first game of the season and JT could right the ship.  Wow.  The mediocrity in EVERY aspect of the game yesterday ... That was not the first time we&#039;ve seen that from a Tedford team.  It was like the 50th time.  Thinking he can &quot;right the ship&quot;?  The absolute definition of insanity.  But hey, I love the fact that you can be that optimistic, if that&#039;s what it was.

#32 Wehofx -  I hope your numbers are accurate.  A little ugly, but not nearly as bad as I thought we were stuck with.  I thought his contract was fully guaranteed through 2015.  If you calculate the lost revenue potential, the hit is probably recouped in 1-2 years.  

If he gets the boot, we HAVE to hit a grand slam in his replacement.  I know I&#039;ll get shot for this, I might try to take a shot at Justin Wilcox - IF  - he brings back Tosh Lupoi with him.  We&#039;d have a top 5-10 class very year and young aggressive coaches that kids will go to war for.  Ok shoot me for thinking outside the box a bit and letting bygones be bygones, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to the few on here that pointed out it was only the first game of the season and JT could right the ship.  Wow.  The mediocrity in EVERY aspect of the game yesterday &#8230; That was not the first time we&#8217;ve seen that from a Tedford team.  It was like the 50th time.  Thinking he can &#8220;right the ship&#8221;?  The absolute definition of insanity.  But hey, I love the fact that you can be that optimistic, if that&#8217;s what it was.</p>
<p>#32 Wehofx &#8211;  I hope your numbers are accurate.  A little ugly, but not nearly as bad as I thought we were stuck with.  I thought his contract was fully guaranteed through 2015.  If you calculate the lost revenue potential, the hit is probably recouped in 1-2 years.  </p>
<p>If he gets the boot, we HAVE to hit a grand slam in his replacement.  I know I&#8217;ll get shot for this, I might try to take a shot at Justin Wilcox &#8211; IF  &#8211; he brings back Tosh Lupoi with him.  We&#8217;d have a top 5-10 class very year and young aggressive coaches that kids will go to war for.  Ok shoot me for thinking outside the box a bit and letting bygones be bygones, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Rollonubears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rollonubears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank the heavens we got this stadium done.  They can&#039;t take it away. And now that it&#039;s here, they&#039;ll have to put a good product on the field sooner rather than later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank the heavens we got this stadium done.  They can&#8217;t take it away. And now that it&#8217;s here, they&#8217;ll have to put a good product on the field sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big-time husband/wife Cal donors who gave $10 million to the Cal athletic department and had part of the stadium named after them would have been better served to have their money buy out JT&#039;s contract.

NOTHING is more important to Cal athletics than to have the fan base re-energized about the football team. It ain&#039;t gonna happen with JT. I think that&#039;s becoming clear to even his most ardent supporters. None of them have posted diddly squat since that rotten egg yesterday. 

Look for 40,000 people at the game against Southern Utah on Saturday. I read that 2,000 of those people will be the stadium construction team and their families.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big-time husband/wife Cal donors who gave $10 million to the Cal athletic department and had part of the stadium named after them would have been better served to have their money buy out JT&#8217;s contract.</p>
<p>NOTHING is more important to Cal athletics than to have the fan base re-energized about the football team. It ain&#8217;t gonna happen with JT. I think that&#8217;s becoming clear to even his most ardent supporters. None of them have posted diddly squat since that rotten egg yesterday. </p>
<p>Look for 40,000 people at the game against Southern Utah on Saturday. I read that 2,000 of those people will be the stadium construction team and their families.</p>
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		<title>By: wehofx</title>
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		<dc:creator>wehofx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#27 okay just read wilner&#039;s article from may &#039;07.  Got my smoke on and coupla 4 newcastle so I could easily be wrong but - if the article is still accurate - seems to me jt&#039;s buyout, if fired at the end of this season, is 3.6 mil.  His base salary for 2 years.  The current contract  ends in &#039;14.  One year was automatically added for the 9 win season in &#039;08.  (the good old days.)

Approx 1 mil elevator for coaching in hpc and Memorial reno that was due yestereday - and imo jt deserved it.  No elevators for hc of year, pac 12 title, bcs game.

So all the only elevator left is 1 mil retention bonus if he is hc in &#039;13.  Which if he is fired, is not payable.  (Or are we on the hook for that 1 mil even if he&#039;s fired?)

If I&#039;m right, if fired at the end of this season, jt would be owed 1.8 mil for &#039;13 and 1.8 for &#039;14, the last year of the contract.  (Or am I missing something?)

3.6mil is real $ but with new pac 12 tv contract it seems like a viable solution that is not financially crippling.  Especially considering what&#039;s at stake as pointed out by BlakeSt, ConcordB, 707 and others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27 okay just read wilner&#8217;s article from may &#8217;07.  Got my smoke on and coupla 4 newcastle so I could easily be wrong but &#8211; if the article is still accurate &#8211; seems to me jt&#8217;s buyout, if fired at the end of this season, is 3.6 mil.  His base salary for 2 years.  The current contract  ends in &#8217;14.  One year was automatically added for the 9 win season in &#8217;08.  (the good old days.)</p>
<p>Approx 1 mil elevator for coaching in hpc and Memorial reno that was due yestereday &#8211; and imo jt deserved it.  No elevators for hc of year, pac 12 title, bcs game.</p>
<p>So all the only elevator left is 1 mil retention bonus if he is hc in &#8217;13.  Which if he is fired, is not payable.  (Or are we on the hook for that 1 mil even if he&#8217;s fired?)</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m right, if fired at the end of this season, jt would be owed 1.8 mil for &#8217;13 and 1.8 for &#8217;14, the last year of the contract.  (Or am I missing something?)</p>
<p>3.6mil is real $ but with new pac 12 tv contract it seems like a viable solution that is not financially crippling.  Especially considering what&#8217;s at stake as pointed out by BlakeSt, ConcordB, 707 and others.</p>
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		<title>By: 707 Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>707 Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more on the loyal fan base.

The year at SF was a disaster.

I can remember receiving notice from the Athletic Department that I wasn&#039;t guaranteed tickets to the SF season---even though I was a Blue Zone season ticket holder--because the demand was expected to be so high.  They used this &quot;expected high demand&quot; to get me to become a donor.  Heck, we didn&#039;t even sell out the SC game.

The SF season said it all with regards to fan loyalty.
The students aren&#039;t loyal; they couldn&#039;t be bothered to take a free bus ride across the bridge.
The non-student fan base isn&#039;t loyal; remember how we were outdrawn by Fresno State at the Stick.

This program is at a serious crossroads.  

Fasten your seatbelts......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more on the loyal fan base.</p>
<p>The year at SF was a disaster.</p>
<p>I can remember receiving notice from the Athletic Department that I wasn&#8217;t guaranteed tickets to the SF season&#8212;even though I was a Blue Zone season ticket holder&#8211;because the demand was expected to be so high.  They used this &#8220;expected high demand&#8221; to get me to become a donor.  Heck, we didn&#8217;t even sell out the SC game.</p>
<p>The SF season said it all with regards to fan loyalty.<br />
The students aren&#8217;t loyal; they couldn&#8217;t be bothered to take a free bus ride across the bridge.<br />
The non-student fan base isn&#8217;t loyal; remember how we were outdrawn by Fresno State at the Stick.</p>
<p>This program is at a serious crossroads.  </p>
<p>Fasten your seatbelts&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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