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		<title>By: BlueNGold</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2012/09/03/football-why-fans-held-tickets-for-seats-that-did-not-exist-and-how-cal-is-fixing-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-119741</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueNGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#15-

And we are still waiting for the trash talking troll to get a life.]]></description>
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<p>And we are still waiting for the trash talking troll to get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: CalBearister</title>
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		<dc:creator>CalBearister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coach Tedford has a solution to the problem.  Keep putting out poorly prepared football teams and there will be plenty of room for the people who are sold seats that don&#039;t exist to sit.

35k for Southern Utah maybe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coach Tedford has a solution to the problem.  Keep putting out poorly prepared football teams and there will be plenty of room for the people who are sold seats that don&#8217;t exist to sit.</p>
<p>35k for Southern Utah maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H8sRed @ 19 - I know you didn&#039;t ask for it, but here&#039;s my two cents. Over-coaching, especially season after season, is poor coaching.  The examples you use are spot on- so is a ridiculously big and complex playbill, so much so that every new Cal QB that gets playing times looks bad - lost, tight, robotic, inconsistent and a disappointment.  And this is after 2-3 years in the system.  Meanwhile, in Eugene, Oregon Duck QBs are playing very well and leading the Ducks to 11-12 wins a season- as redshift freshmen.  Freshman QBS play well all over the nation- none of our QBS play well.  I believe it&#039;s over coaching.  What you call Over coaching is what I have seen as bad coaching. 

Our entire team has looked lost, tight, inconsistent, undisciplined- and I know that they aren&#039;t &quot;coached&quot; enough.  They just aren&#039;t coached well or led well.

I do agree with your later assertion- perhaps much would be gained by keeping things a bit simpler.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H8sRed @ 19 &#8211; I know you didn&#8217;t ask for it, but here&#8217;s my two cents. Over-coaching, especially season after season, is poor coaching.  The examples you use are spot on- so is a ridiculously big and complex playbill, so much so that every new Cal QB that gets playing times looks bad &#8211; lost, tight, robotic, inconsistent and a disappointment.  And this is after 2-3 years in the system.  Meanwhile, in Eugene, Oregon Duck QBs are playing very well and leading the Ducks to 11-12 wins a season- as redshift freshmen.  Freshman QBS play well all over the nation- none of our QBS play well.  I believe it&#8217;s over coaching.  What you call Over coaching is what I have seen as bad coaching. </p>
<p>Our entire team has looked lost, tight, inconsistent, undisciplined- and I know that they aren&#8217;t &#8220;coached&#8221; enough.  They just aren&#8217;t coached well or led well.</p>
<p>I do agree with your later assertion- perhaps much would be gained by keeping things a bit simpler.</p>
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		<title>By: H8sRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>H8sRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, on another thread, someone asked Tedford supporters -- which I have been, with a few caveats over the years -- to comment on Saturday, so here&#039;s my two cents. While I&#039;m not yet ready to call for Tedford&#039;s head, obviously if things do not improve, I don&#039;t think Cal has any other choice than to find a way to replace him.

The abject failure of so many components of the Bears&#039; play and game plan have been covered ad nauseum by others. So I won&#039;t dwell on the fact that the team&#039;s performance was abysmal. 

I don&#039;t think the root cause is lack of coaching. To the contrary, this team looked over-coached to me. The constant substitutions on offense and defense made it look like we were reacting to what Nevada was doing, rather than dictating the play. Moreover, both units spent so much time looking for instruction from the sidelines that it did not allow them to get a feel for the flow of the game or act instinctively to what was happening on the field. Exacerbating this were all of the last-second situational substitutions on defense. Without a doubt, I think the team would benefit from just putting the best 11 out there and letting them run a few plays so that they can use their God-given talents to make a play. If someone falters or needs to take a break, by all means, substitute, but as the old saying goes, &quot;Let &#039;em play!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, on another thread, someone asked Tedford supporters &#8212; which I have been, with a few caveats over the years &#8212; to comment on Saturday, so here&#8217;s my two cents. While I&#8217;m not yet ready to call for Tedford&#8217;s head, obviously if things do not improve, I don&#8217;t think Cal has any other choice than to find a way to replace him.</p>
<p>The abject failure of so many components of the Bears&#8217; play and game plan have been covered ad nauseum by others. So I won&#8217;t dwell on the fact that the team&#8217;s performance was abysmal. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the root cause is lack of coaching. To the contrary, this team looked over-coached to me. The constant substitutions on offense and defense made it look like we were reacting to what Nevada was doing, rather than dictating the play. Moreover, both units spent so much time looking for instruction from the sidelines that it did not allow them to get a feel for the flow of the game or act instinctively to what was happening on the field. Exacerbating this were all of the last-second situational substitutions on defense. Without a doubt, I think the team would benefit from just putting the best 11 out there and letting them run a few plays so that they can use their God-given talents to make a play. If someone falters or needs to take a break, by all means, substitute, but as the old saying goes, &#8220;Let &#8216;em play!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: H8sRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>H8sRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding me? They were rushing this job from start to finish! From Day 1 of construction, they were behind the 8-ball if there was a prolonged storm or an interruption in any of their materials or equipment. This was a 24-30 month project that they completed in 21 months, and they had to coordinate work around Simpson Center construction for much of that time. Don&#039;t they get credit for that?

Again, take your ire out on the team and the coaches -- they deserve it after Saturday&#039;s performance. But congratulations are in order to those who made sure the stadium was game-ready by Sept 1. The fact that there were a few minor glitches when there was a full house that day is something that should be expected following an project as complicated as this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? They were rushing this job from start to finish! From Day 1 of construction, they were behind the 8-ball if there was a prolonged storm or an interruption in any of their materials or equipment. This was a 24-30 month project that they completed in 21 months, and they had to coordinate work around Simpson Center construction for much of that time. Don&#8217;t they get credit for that?</p>
<p>Again, take your ire out on the team and the coaches &#8212; they deserve it after Saturday&#8217;s performance. But congratulations are in order to those who made sure the stadium was game-ready by Sept 1. The fact that there were a few minor glitches when there was a full house that day is something that should be expected following an project as complicated as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: daredevilfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>daredevilfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 02:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H8sRed, I guess we have a different view of phenomenal.  I don&#039;t know all the details of the construction, and I wouldn&#039;t advocate another season at AT&amp;T, but I don&#039;t feel that a mad rush at the end to be ready for the season opener is a success story.  I call it lucky. They were one or two unexpected weather fronts or non-delivery of parts away from being totally screwed.  I&#039;ll congratulate the construction workers, but I expect my planners to find a way not to be rushing at the end.  Now if you want to accuse me of griping about construction because I am really frustrated with my team, then I will fess up to that.  But the Athletic Dept has lots of questionable decisions and practices as of late so we must question them. They get paid big bucks and should produce or get out of the way. Same goes for coaches and players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H8sRed, I guess we have a different view of phenomenal.  I don&#8217;t know all the details of the construction, and I wouldn&#8217;t advocate another season at AT&amp;T, but I don&#8217;t feel that a mad rush at the end to be ready for the season opener is a success story.  I call it lucky. They were one or two unexpected weather fronts or non-delivery of parts away from being totally screwed.  I&#8217;ll congratulate the construction workers, but I expect my planners to find a way not to be rushing at the end.  Now if you want to accuse me of griping about construction because I am really frustrated with my team, then I will fess up to that.  But the Athletic Dept has lots of questionable decisions and practices as of late so we must question them. They get paid big bucks and should produce or get out of the way. Same goes for coaches and players.</p>
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		<title>By: H8sRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>H8sRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daredevil -- What did you have in mind for improving the construction timetable? They braced the facade before the last game in 2010 and started demolition the day after that last game. Crews worked 12 hours or more per day, 7 days per week -- they could not work longer hours because of the neighbors -- and they got the stadium open in time for the first game in 2012. Do you think they should have scheduled a second season at AT&amp;T?

After a $321 million renovation, over 21 months with hundreds of construction workers involved, if the worst mistake was the mis-numbering of a few seats, then I would say that&#039;s a phenomenal performance. The project coordinators deserve hearty congratulations.

If you want to complain about something, the team and coaching staff are deserving targets -- almost across the board, their performance was pathetic on Saturday. But the team responsible for the construction of Memorial Stadium deserves nothing but praise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daredevil &#8212; What did you have in mind for improving the construction timetable? They braced the facade before the last game in 2010 and started demolition the day after that last game. Crews worked 12 hours or more per day, 7 days per week &#8212; they could not work longer hours because of the neighbors &#8212; and they got the stadium open in time for the first game in 2012. Do you think they should have scheduled a second season at AT&amp;T?</p>
<p>After a $321 million renovation, over 21 months with hundreds of construction workers involved, if the worst mistake was the mis-numbering of a few seats, then I would say that&#8217;s a phenomenal performance. The project coordinators deserve hearty congratulations.</p>
<p>If you want to complain about something, the team and coaching staff are deserving targets &#8212; almost across the board, their performance was pathetic on Saturday. But the team responsible for the construction of Memorial Stadium deserves nothing but praise.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#14 - BlueNGold

Your latest post is getting closer but We are still waiting to hear a football related post from you. 

Whatever you do don&#039;t revert back to another boring topic about the new food at the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 &#8211; BlueNGold</p>
<p>Your latest post is getting closer but We are still waiting to hear a football related post from you. </p>
<p>Whatever you do don&#8217;t revert back to another boring topic about the new food at the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueNGold</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueNGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the game and a guy near me had a ticket for a nonexistent seat. It was not a big deal because there were some empty seats in the row and he took one of them. The problem in that location (Sec. Q) seemed to be that the rows got shorter toward the front of the section and they had miscounted the total number of seats the row could accomodate. Also, the permanent numbers on the seats had been scratched out and different numbers were put on with adhesive labels. So apparently they had to do some shuffling around of the benches. 

On the positive side, I thought the stadium was a major improvement. In the past I had been in the north end zone so this location, next to the east side of the south end zone, gave a great view of the entire field and the players. I was inpressed with the new scoreboards and PA system. I thought the new press box structure was too large (though I understand the need to build it that way) and unfortunately it blocks the bay and city views from the stands. All in all, I think the retrofit and remodel work is a major improvement, and I am proud that Cal stuck with it in the face of a lot of adversity and legions of doomsdayers and naysayers, some of whom hang out on this blog. Now its time for an extreme makeover of the football team, and that cannot come soon enough.

P.S. - Trash talking trolls are NEVER validated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the game and a guy near me had a ticket for a nonexistent seat. It was not a big deal because there were some empty seats in the row and he took one of them. The problem in that location (Sec. Q) seemed to be that the rows got shorter toward the front of the section and they had miscounted the total number of seats the row could accomodate. Also, the permanent numbers on the seats had been scratched out and different numbers were put on with adhesive labels. So apparently they had to do some shuffling around of the benches. </p>
<p>On the positive side, I thought the stadium was a major improvement. In the past I had been in the north end zone so this location, next to the east side of the south end zone, gave a great view of the entire field and the players. I was inpressed with the new scoreboards and PA system. I thought the new press box structure was too large (though I understand the need to build it that way) and unfortunately it blocks the bay and city views from the stands. All in all, I think the retrofit and remodel work is a major improvement, and I am proud that Cal stuck with it in the face of a lot of adversity and legions of doomsdayers and naysayers, some of whom hang out on this blog. Now its time for an extreme makeover of the football team, and that cannot come soon enough.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; Trash talking trolls are NEVER validated.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreNCsarecoming</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreNCsarecoming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have once again been validated. Here are a few posts on Bear Insider. Daddy had three tickets in TT and I have been saying for many years how the UCB state fans lack football knowledge.

Here is what one guy said:


&quot;I&#039;ve been a Cal fan for over 25 years, and want to win as bad as the next guy. But damn, the &quot;fans&quot; in TT bitch after every single play, even the good ones. And they don&#039;t know their football.&quot;

Here is what another said.

 &quot;By and large general Cal fans aren&#039;t exactly the most knowledgeable football fans; there are a lot of fairweather bandwagoners out there.&quot;

Thank you thank you.

Pressf5 for more BearTalk and GoGo Bears

LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have once again been validated. Here are a few posts on Bear Insider. Daddy had three tickets in TT and I have been saying for many years how the UCB state fans lack football knowledge.</p>
<p>Here is what one guy said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve been a Cal fan for over 25 years, and want to win as bad as the next guy. But damn, the &#8220;fans&#8221; in TT bitch after every single play, even the good ones. And they don&#8217;t know their football.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is what another said.</p>
<p> &#8220;By and large general Cal fans aren&#8217;t exactly the most knowledgeable football fans; there are a lot of fairweather bandwagoners out there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you thank you.</p>
<p>Pressf5 for more BearTalk and GoGo Bears</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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