1. I find it hard to accept the “jealousy” tag, because Tosh wasn’t the only one who left. So did Kiesau. Those were two of the young guys on the staff. So maybe it was a generational thing also. If it was only Tosh who left then I would be more inclined to think there was a lot of jealousy and people didn’t like him.

I never once heard anything negative about Tosh until he left. He was the pride of our staff, the ace recruiter, the only positively viewed coach on our staff nationally.

Letter 2 – I agree it’s in bad character to do what he did. Going to Shaq’s house, leaving Tedford stranded, etc. I can’t argue that and won’t argue that.

Number C – Is it really that different that Tosh badmouthed the Tedford regime when he left, to the way we criticize Tedford and the regime?

Aren’t we essentially doing the same thing? Pointing out that a lot of us feel that under Tedford our program will be irrelevant? Tosh didn’t say anything negative about our school – he badmouthed the program.

And first and foremost, now that “the cancer” left for Washington are we any better off? I don’t see it. Neither in recruiting, nor in defensive line play.

I just have too many complicated issues that I can’t resolve around the whole Tosh thing to still be so one-sidedly against him. He’s probably a buffoon. He probably acted poorly. But that doesn’t necessarily make him unique as compared to our current staff.

But riddle me this, if someone is talking objectively about Cal as a place to play important football games and possibly to win a conference, would you recommend Cal ?

How many of us here have taken the position that the current Tedford staff will not get it done. Can you blame a former Cal coach for telling recruits that if they go to Cal under the Tedford regime they’re making a mistake? Isn’t their some objective validity to that ?

I’m an alumni and my care for Cal starts with the academics and what it stands for, with sports way way distant second. But I’m biased. I tell the kids I coach that Cal is where they should go. But I tell them that b/c of the academics and b/c I know it will make them better people.

If top recruits want to go where they can maximize their athletic talent and play relevant bowl games – as long as Tedford is here Cal isn’t the best choice. Simple as that.

Or who here thinks we’ll compete for a Rose Bowl with Tedford ?

Even the wind beneath my wings, Zach Kline can’t work that much magic.

It’s just hard for me to believe 100% of Tedford’s side of the story. Unfortunately he’s lost all credibility in my book. He sounds like he’s in a parallel universe when he talks about getting Bigelow more involved in the second half (once we were down a million).

Do I think Tosh is probably a buffoon, probably. But who knows what Tedford did in the Tosh aftermath (to Tosh or Kiesau, etc.) to help earn the wrath he got from Tosh.

The whole situation sucks. And thinking back to the reruiting class that almost was still makes me sick to my stomach.

Had that class come in, we would be in the rose bowl despite the coach. Now we need to reboot the whole damn thing.

Also – this was mentioned in another thread. I don’t buy it that Gould has ultimate say in who plays and how many snaps they get at the RB position.

I believe that about as much as I believe that it was all on Tosh when the defense faked cramps a couple years back. That stuff starts at the top.

http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/player/?station=KJR-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=Dawgman.xml&mid=21749281

Leave for the money but to take Cal recruits, turn them to UW and if they aren’t interested tell them, “don’t go to Cal”. Unforgiveable. The day that piece of Dog $hit wears Blue and Gold again will be my last day wearing my beloved undergrad colors.