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Basketball: Stanford game thread

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FINAL SCORE: Stanford 69, Cal 59. Bears fall to 10-7, 2-3 in the Pac-12. Crabbe finishes with 14 points, 12 in the second half. Kravish scores 14, a season-high, 12 in the first half. Cobbs has 13, 11 in the second half. Not much consistency there. Cal shoots 34.9 percent which, amazingly, is only its second-worst game of the season. Dwight Powell has 17 points and nine rebounds for Stanford (11-7, 2-3), which only shot 35.8 percent. Stanford’s bench outscored its Cal counterparts 26-3.

3:48 2nd H: Stanford leads 61-51. Cardinal is 9 for 9 from FT line in second half. Cal 1 for 3. Otherwise, shooting by both teams is ghastly: Cal 36.4 percent from the floor, Stanford 36.7 percent. Ugh.

6:04 2nd H: Dwight Powell gets Solomon to go for fake on 3-point try just before 35-second clock expires and Solomon fouls him. Powell makes all three FTs for a 57-47 lead.

9:08 2nd H: Cobbs is 4-6 in the second half and has nine points since the break, including Cal’s last two baskets. But Stanford maintains a 50-46 lead.

11:33 2nd H: Cal got within 43-42 on shot from lane by Crabbe with 13:17 left. But Stanford answers. Steal and layup by Randle and another 3-pointer by Gage — he’s 4 for 4 — and the Cardinal is up 48-42. Crabbe and Cobbs, who combined for 4 points in the first half, have 11 between them through 8 1/2 minutes of the second half.

15:00 2nd H: Stanford leads 43-37. Cobbs scored his first FG by hitting a jumper with 15:29 left. He is 1 for 8.

16:13 2nd H: Back-to-back baskets by Crabbe — the second a monster dunk on the run — and Cal trails just 39-35. Crabbe looked mad — should try playing that way more often. Chasson Randle with three fouls for Stanford. The Cardinal 1 for 7 to open the half.

HALFTIME: Stanford 37, Cal 29. Kravish, who has 12 points, scored a putback with 3 seconds left as the Bears got the last word in the half. Kravish is 6 for 9 from the field; the rest of the Bears a combined 5 for 21. Cobbs is 0 for 7 and Crabbe 1 for 4. They have two points apiece. Solomon has three fouls at the half. Gage with 11 points and Randle with 10 for Stanford.

0:28.1 1st H: Monty calls timeout after 7-0 run by Stanford, which has opened a 37-27 lead. Cal has gone six possessions without scoring. Cobbs is 0 for 6, Crabbe 1 for 4. They have a combined four points.

3:13 1st H: Gage is 3 for 3 from 3-point and has 11 points, and Stanford leads 30-27. The Cardinal is shooting 5 for 9 beyond the arc and just 4 for 14 inside. Cal converting 40 percent from the field.  Bak came in for Solomon and picked up three fouls in 3 1/2 minutes. Solomon is back.

6:45 1st H: Stanford has scored last six points, including an open 3-pointer by 6-10 F John Gage, and Cardinal leads 23-21. Bears are getting almost nothing from Cobbs (0 for 5, 2 pts) and Crabbe (0 for 2, 0 pts). Stanford is shooting 4 for 7 from 3-point, three of those by their bench players.

10:46 1st H: Cal leads 19-17. Kravish has 10 points on 5 for 5 from the field. Rest of team is 2 for 8. Freshman Rosco Allen just hit a 3-pointer for Stanford against Robert Thurman. Tough matchup for RT, who cannot close him out without risk of quicker Allen going past him.

12:58 1st H: Bears go inside and run off 8-0 to lead 15-9. Two free throws and a basket by Solomon, two baskets by Kravish, who has eight points.

15:39 1st H: Cal led 7-2 early, but Stanford has 9-7 lead at first timeout. Chasson Randle with seven points for the Cardinal, hitting 3 of 4, including a 3-pointer. David Kravish has four points for Cal, Tyrone Wallace has a 3-pointer.

THIS SCORE JUST IN: Arizona beat Arizona State 71-52 in Tempe to improve to 4-1 in Pac-12 play. The Sun Devils fall to 3-2. A Cal win today would move the Bears into a tie with ASU for fifth place.

STARTING LINEUPS: Cal will start Justin Cobbs, Tyrone Wallace, Allen Crabbe, Richard Solomon and David Kravish. Stanford goes with Aaron Bright, Chasson Randle, Andy Brown, Josh Huestis and Dwight Powell.

WELCOME: I’m here at Maples Pavilion as the Bears (10-6, 2-2) take on rival Stanford (10-7, 1-3) for the 261st time. Ailing Cal guards Brandon Smith (concussion) and Ricky Kreklow (foot) will not play. Will be back with lineups.

Jeff Faraudo

  • The Wisdom Cow

    No TV for me. Gotta love that Pac 12 media deal, serving the fans!

  • wehofx

    Usually in la we get screwed. I assume nothing in NoCal? ur right, gotta love the pac 12 genius in charge of tv deal.

    I hope bak gets more minutes based on the D he put on the wsu big man. sounds like he could be a good match for furd’s leading scorer 6’10′, powell??

    Go Bears! Beat furd.

  • Joey

    I can see the officiating is as spectacular as ever. PAC 12 is unwatchable.

  • CalBearister

    Pac-12 conference is a joke. Maybe our Commissioner could focus on improving the product and less on marketing games officiated by morons.

  • The Wisdom Cow

    Anyone still thinking a top 4 finish in the Pac 12 is possible?

  • wehofx

    That was a frustrating game to watch.

    I was yelling at the tv so much my gf is positive I’m batsh*t nutz.

  • Juancho

    Montgomery is still a genius and the best we can do though right ?

  • ConcordBear

    We just don’t have enough bodies right now.
    The three injuries are killing us. We were thin before the 3 went down.
    Tough to deal with
    Hate todays game.
    Need more players

  • The Wisdom Cow

    “Cal fan” is synonymous with “batsh*t nutz,” as well as whack (as in “crack is whack,” quite different from ‘wacko’), lunatic, dreamer, schizophrenic, hopeless romantic, peon, Christ-like (when suffering, stuck to a cross, not the miracle working or resurrected versions), one of any of the three “misses” – being misguided, misdirected, or misquoted, and of course, masochist.

  • Joey

    Looked like a Braun offense with less talent. Defense looks much worse than Braun’s worst teams.

  • The Wisdom Cow

    You’re right, Concord. If only Brandon Smith had been in there . . .

  • gobears49

    Cobbs needs to learn two things:

    1. He dribbles WAY too much.
    2. When he is closely guarded, his shooting percentage is something like 10%, or even lower. So isn’t it really stupid to take shots under those circumstances?

    I blame Montgomery for both of the above items. And for letting Soloman AGAIN shoot a 3-point shot. Who decides what style his team will play and what type of shots each player is allowed to take, Monty or his players?

    On the positive side, the inside game (passing and shooting) was easily the best I have seen this year. Soloman actually showed he can shoot inside a bit and was a real rebounding force. Another positive is the Crabbe is playing so bad he will have to return to Cal next year because his stock has dropped so much. He can’t play shooting guard in the NBA the way he has been shooting. Maybe Cal could go small and let Crabbe play small forward next year and let Bird play shooting guard. Crabbe IS a very good rebounder, given his size.

    On the negative side, Cal is possibly the worst team running a fast break I have ever seen. They seem to screw it up every time. There are a bunch of other negatives, but I’ll leave it at that.

  • wehofx

    GoBears, as usual, agree w most of your points. It seems like monty let’s his players develop on their own. He is going to let cobb figure it out as opposed to howland who calls time outs and calls set plays every time down the floor.

    I far prefer monty’s motion offense when it’s working. To state the obvious, this year’s team is so inconsistent. The occasional glimpses of player movement and ball movement of this year’s team makes the stupid losses all the more frustrating.

    one other positive, Kravish finally got aggressive.

    twitter rumor: tyler foreman committed. if true, a very good get.

    now if we can get C Hunt and Cochran to commit next week, I think, we have a shot at cracking top 20. but get those 2 is a BIG IF.

  • Juancho

    Wehofx please keep us appraised on foreman. Thats the biggest get we can nab at this point. Hell be a big time player.

  • Juancho

    Wehofx im seeing tyler foreman committed to ucla.

  • SteveNTexas

    Monty is a great coach — I’m sure all the Stanford fans think so.

  • wehofx

    Troy Aikman, “Cal University.” WTF?

    Tony G!!! T DeCoud!

    Juancho, jumped the gun on Tyler Foreman. Usually wait until 6 or 7 tweets before I post here. ucla.

    You think we get Cochran for sure?

    Feels like C Hunt’s gonna be a toss up until loi.

  • Juancho

    I dont think cochran is going to Cal. He would have committed by now. I think he ends up at Nebraska.

    I think hunt is 51/49 sticking with Cal. But it will be a battle.

    I think dykes and his staff are the right choice. But in terms of recruiting they didnt hit any hkme runs. I think hue jackson would have. But he would have been tedford again.

    So this is a year of patience and enjoying a good class. But hoping next year gets to a great class.

    Sonny er al are adiung solid 3 stars. Next year i hope we have more 4 and 5 stars to ice the cake.

    Fyi tosh gas a top clasd for uw and theyre not done. If we had tosh + sonny. National titles.

  • Juancho

    My technology is acting up. Was trying to type tosh has a top 10 class already.

  • gobears49

    Wheofx,

    I agree with your comments about ball movement and the motion offense. In recent games, Cal has looked good early when they pass the ball underneath, pass the ball into the post and take shots from there, and have good overall ball movement.

    It is clearly evident that Cal has been working on these things in practice. However, they can’t or don’t want to sustain it. After five or ten minutes they resort to their normal free form (“gym rat”) offense, highlighted by Cobbs dribbling around for twenty seconds while the other Cal players watch him, with Cobbs going for a fadeaway with a hand in his face, which he almost always misses. He shoots pretty well when he gets open looks, but waiting for those shots would not give him the number of shots he thinks he deserves.

  • gobears49

    Juancho,

    The worst thing the Cal athletic department has done in the past couple of years was letting Tosh go. It’s rare to see someone as good at recruiting as he was. He should have been paid accordingly.

  • Juancho

    Completely agree gobears. He wasnt paid bc it was going to upset clancy. And now hes at usc. Hurts to say but tosh is a once in a lifetime recruiting talent. And a cal alumn. And we blew it.

  • wehofx

    GoB and J, don’t forget – as has been mentioned previously – if the ‘ho stayed, JT would almost certainly still be the hc.

    speaking of furd: harbaugh and his stones pays off again in making the switch to Kaepernick.

    I was really hoping Tony G would get his shot at the Super B.

  • Juancho

    True.

    But im saying now if we can pay for him to come back. Lets do it.

    He is the recruit we need.

  • gobears49

    Wehofx,

    Please explain to me why you believe Tedford would still be our coach if Tosh had stayed. I can’t think of a reason why.

    BTW, if Washington gets a top 10 class, it’s easy to compare the effect Tosh has had on Washington’s recruiting. Just compare the average ranking of their last few recruiting classes to this one. Maybe Juancho can get those stats for us.

  • Juancho

    Per Scout UW rankings.

    2010 – 11
    2011 – 22
    2012 – 22
    Tosh in 2013 – 11 (so far)

  • gobears49

    Juancho,

    Tx, stat wizard.

  • Juancho

    Tosh just got a 4 star wr to commit a little while ago over notre dame, oklahoma, arkansas, usc etc.

    Say what you will. Mother feather rocks at his job.

  • gobears49

    I blame it all on Sandy for not asking Tedford for not taking a cut in pay to pay for Tosh’s big raise. If she knew football, she would have known that it’s much easier to have a top-ranked football team, to fill the seats she needs filled, if you recruit top-ranked football talent. Tosh would have continued to do that for Cal, if he was paid what he was worth. Now he does that for Washington, who DOES pay him what he is worth.

  • gobears49

    Check the above — should read “not asking Tedford to TAKE a cut in pay”

  • Juancho

    Gobears ill share the same story i got from a friend who works for birgeneau.

    The money was not the issue. The issue was tedford didnt agree to the second increase because he didnt want to mess up the pay scale of his staff.

    Essentially tosh would have been making similar to clancy, his boss.

    They were near sighted in not realizing that recruiting is worth the $. A visionary leadership would have said tough cookies. Tosh is worthit for the following reasons:

    Shaq thompson
    Arik armstead
    Dj foster
    Jordan payton
    Mike hutchings
    Eddie vanderdoes
    Aziz shittu
    Lj moore
    On and on and on

    Just look at basketball. The coming of jabari bird is buying monty a pass this season.

  • SteveNTexas

    IT doesn’t say much for our basketball team that after the initial barfing – we switch to football.

    With 5 games into the Pac 12 and none with Arizona we should be 4-1 and talking about conference championships ( although AZ was still favored preseason) and NCAA seeding.

  • gobears49

    Juancho,

    Thanks for the U of W football recruiting list of players who recently decided to attend that school.

    I have previously written, similar to what you just wrote, that if Tedford had been willing to give up some salary to keep Tosh, it would have given him a pass for a year, based upon getting a top of the line recruiting class that Cal had lined up before Tosh left. If Sandy had been smart, and really knew football (does she?), she should have known that the recruiting class Cal had on paper could easily be taken away if Tosh left. That is, indeed, what happened. So I blame Sandy for not suggesting Tedford give up some salary to finance part of Tosh’s significant raise, and perhaps raising Clancy’s salary so it would be meaningfully higher than Tosh’s. Cal’s football future would be much brighter if we had kept that recruiting class intact, even if our record last year was the same (I doubt the new recruits would have made much difference last year).

    But I guess the downside to what I am saying is, if I am right, and we actually kept the great recruiting class coming in last season, Tedford could have easily been given the pass I suggest he might have gotten with a good recruiting class, so we could still be stuck with him. Still, we can dream of how much brighter our future would be with a top 10 recruiting class for last season and Tedford gone.

  • gobears49

    A point of clarification — I don’t think Juancho’s list of players are U of W recruits, but rather players Cal had previously lined up (verbally) to attend Cal, or had Cal high on their list. I believe I know this because I think Armstead decided to go to Oregon (though I don’t believe he had verbally chosen Cal before Tosh left). I don’t subscribe to recruiting blogs like some of you guys do, so I don’t know exactly who had verbally committed to Cal before Tosh left.

  • Juancho

    True gobears. Tosh was the czar of our recruiting. Which is why we lost all the top local guys this year except for goff. Hes a special case though. His parents are both alumni so he was coming here regardless.

  • wehofx

    GoBEars #25 yeah #33 and I think w all those studs on D we would have won a coupla 3 more games but not enough to
    get to .500.

    Jack Austin 3 star wr de-committed from boise and is now Cal.

    Seems like w the 2 players SD encouraged to de-commit and all the new commits, the staff prefers big wr’s and db’s.

    In addition to udub, ucla is making a big recruiting push. pac 12 north and south is gonna be tough.

  • Juancho

    Wehofx uclas star recruiter was tuiasosopo who washington just stole.

    Ucla is a great school in a great location. Maybe the best safety school.

  • Dan

    Cal/Tedford should have been visionary in recognizing Tosh as a unique talent and given him the title of “Director of Recruiting” or “Recruiting Coordinator”, putting it on par with the OC and DC positions in stature and $$. That’s essentially wht UDub did.

    If Tosh was still here. last year’s team would have been no better, as Tedford was still the HC and essentially te OC. He sucked, we would have sucked, he would still be gone, and no way SD gets hired without keeping Tosh.