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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2013/01/30/basketball-oregon-st-game-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-155529</link>
		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 01:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SteveNTexas,

Overall, Monty has done a very good job and the future looks a lot brighter, especially if Crabbe stays and we essentially go to a three guard offense.  It would be totally foolish to let Monty go.  Cal probably is at least in the top three or four in the conference in terms of its overall record versus others during the time Monty has been here (Juancho, it would be great if you filled in here with some stats).  You don&#039;t fire a coach like that.  Especially with such a great recruiting class coming in next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveNTexas,</p>
<p>Overall, Monty has done a very good job and the future looks a lot brighter, especially if Crabbe stays and we essentially go to a three guard offense.  It would be totally foolish to let Monty go.  Cal probably is at least in the top three or four in the conference in terms of its overall record versus others during the time Monty has been here (Juancho, it would be great if you filled in here with some stats).  You don&#8217;t fire a coach like that.  Especially with such a great recruiting class coming in next year.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveNTexas</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2013/01/30/basketball-oregon-st-game-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-155514</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveNTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monty also choked last year with all the talent he could pick. Its not just one horrific year. We lost a bunch of games down the stretch and then played out of the playin game against  South Florida.  This year we sank further but even last year we had few wins vs top 50 teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty also choked last year with all the talent he could pick. Its not just one horrific year. We lost a bunch of games down the stretch and then played out of the playin game against  South Florida.  This year we sank further but even last year we had few wins vs top 50 teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Came across this YouTube video while searching for the spelling of Monte Buckley.  Ah, the good old days of Cal basketball!  A hell of a team -- Jason Kidd, Lamond Murray, Randy Duck, and Monte Buckley, plus probably other good players (Anwar McQueen was just OK).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhYQpalEAg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this YouTube video while searching for the spelling of Monte Buckley.  Ah, the good old days of Cal basketball!  A hell of a team &#8212; Jason Kidd, Lamond Murray, Randy Duck, and Monte Buckley, plus probably other good players (Anwar McQueen was just OK).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhYQpalEAg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqhYQpalEAg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Juancho,

      Maybe you could tell us who was in the freshman recruiting class with Leon Powe and that of Jason Kidd.  If Lamond Murray and Monte Buckley (or even without Buckley) were in Kidd&#039;s class, Kidd&#039;s class wins hands down.

      Cal&#039;s recruiting class with Patrick Christopher was also very good, maybe comparable, overall, with next year&#039;s class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juancho,</p>
<p>      Maybe you could tell us who was in the freshman recruiting class with Leon Powe and that of Jason Kidd.  If Lamond Murray and Monte Buckley (or even without Buckley) were in Kidd&#8217;s class, Kidd&#8217;s class wins hands down.</p>
<p>      Cal&#8217;s recruiting class with Patrick Christopher was also very good, maybe comparable, overall, with next year&#8217;s class.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveintheHills</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveintheHills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, this year&#039;s team is hard to watch.  Not enjoying the inconsistent lack of effort and immaturity at all.

BUT

This is the first year under Monty that the team is playing below pre-season expectations.  Monty coached us to the first conference championship since the 50s.  Chill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this year&#8217;s team is hard to watch.  Not enjoying the inconsistent lack of effort and immaturity at all.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>This is the first year under Monty that the team is playing below pre-season expectations.  Monty coached us to the first conference championship since the 50s.  Chill</p>
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		<title>By: Juancho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juancho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best recruiting class was leon powes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best recruiting class was leon powes.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we should keep Monty as long as his record is decent for a number of years.  Expectations were pretty high for this year, but I think we will, at least, end up with a winning record.  If we do, I consider that to be a decent year, especially since we don&#039;t seem to match up well inside, overall.

Major items I am encouraged about Monty and a bit discouraged about with him:

1.  Encouraged -- seems to bringing in one of the best freshman classes next year, maybe the best since the Kidd days.  We&#039;re even bringing in, heaven forbid, a decent and legitimate big man (see my comment above about this subject).

2.  Discouraged -- I don&#039;t think he disciplines his players enough when they don&#039;t play the way he wants them to.  They should know, from his prior actions, that if they don&#039;t do what he says he doesn&#039;t want, they will be immediately benched.  Perfect examples of when players should be pulled is when Soloman shoots a three pointer or when Cobbs dribbles the ball around, for a long time, contrary to Monty&#039;s claim that he wants ball movement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should keep Monty as long as his record is decent for a number of years.  Expectations were pretty high for this year, but I think we will, at least, end up with a winning record.  If we do, I consider that to be a decent year, especially since we don&#8217;t seem to match up well inside, overall.</p>
<p>Major items I am encouraged about Monty and a bit discouraged about with him:</p>
<p>1.  Encouraged &#8212; seems to bringing in one of the best freshman classes next year, maybe the best since the Kidd days.  We&#8217;re even bringing in, heaven forbid, a decent and legitimate big man (see my comment above about this subject).</p>
<p>2.  Discouraged &#8212; I don&#8217;t think he disciplines his players enough when they don&#8217;t play the way he wants them to.  They should know, from his prior actions, that if they don&#8217;t do what he says he doesn&#8217;t want, they will be immediately benched.  Perfect examples of when players should be pulled is when Soloman shoots a three pointer or when Cobbs dribbles the ball around, for a long time, contrary to Monty&#8217;s claim that he wants ball movement.</p>
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		<title>By: clonedoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>clonedoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Juancho, don&#039;t forget Al Grigsby although the lack of a better big man was the reason we lost to Greg Ostertag and Kansas in the sweet 16 in &#039;93 right after we beat Duke.  

I&#039;m all for letting Monty go for all the reasons mentioned above but since it took a few years or so for SB to finally fire Tedford, I&#039;m also not expecting it any time soon.  Especially w/ Bird coming next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juancho, don&#8217;t forget Al Grigsby although the lack of a better big man was the reason we lost to Greg Ostertag and Kansas in the sweet 16 in &#8217;93 right after we beat Duke.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for letting Monty go for all the reasons mentioned above but since it took a few years or so for SB to finally fire Tedford, I&#8217;m also not expecting it any time soon.  Especially w/ Bird coming next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobears49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobears49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Juancho,

       Thanks for the list.  I forgot about Devon Hardin, who was the only person from your list who was a good big guy who played primarily inside and played fairly recently.  As long as you mention them, I should comment on the rest of your list.

       1.  Shareef -- played ages ago and did not rely that much on an inside game.  Not sure he was 6&#039;9&quot; or taller but he could have been.
       2.  Soloman Hughes -- a decent player inside, though his game was defense (i.e. blocked shots).  Amazingly, since I think he rarely started for Cal, he had a long NBA career.
       3.  Jamaal Sampson -- highly touted since, I believe, he was closely related to Ralph Sampson, but I think he only played a year for Cal and did not live up to his reputation.
      4.  Amit Tamir -- definitely 6&#039;9&quot; but did not seem to want to play inside and was accused by some, because of it, for playing &quot;soft.&quot;  But he could be my favorite Cal payer, perhaps after Jackie Ridgle.  When Tamir hit a three, which he did quite often, it was exciting.
      5.  David Paris -- I think he was the son of Bubba.  He wasn&#039;t very good and I doubt he was 6&#039;9&quot; or taller
      6.  Sean Marks -- I think he was 6&#039;9&quot; and his game was inside  Not a star player at Cal, but a good one.  Had an amazingly long NBA career, like Hughes, considering he was not a star at Cal.
      7.  Michael Stewart -- very good player, who was probably 6&#039;9&quot;, but played so long ago I don&#039;t remember what type of game he had.

      If this is the entire list of Cal big men who were 6&#039;9&quot; and relied upon an inside game, it is extremely weak.  Of course, we could also add Darrell Imhoff to the list, but he played so long ago you have to be either old to remember him or just know a lot about Cal basketball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juancho,</p>
<p>       Thanks for the list.  I forgot about Devon Hardin, who was the only person from your list who was a good big guy who played primarily inside and played fairly recently.  As long as you mention them, I should comment on the rest of your list.</p>
<p>       1.  Shareef &#8212; played ages ago and did not rely that much on an inside game.  Not sure he was 6&#8217;9&#8243; or taller but he could have been.<br />
       2.  Soloman Hughes &#8212; a decent player inside, though his game was defense (i.e. blocked shots).  Amazingly, since I think he rarely started for Cal, he had a long NBA career.<br />
       3.  Jamaal Sampson &#8212; highly touted since, I believe, he was closely related to Ralph Sampson, but I think he only played a year for Cal and did not live up to his reputation.<br />
      4.  Amit Tamir &#8212; definitely 6&#8217;9&#8243; but did not seem to want to play inside and was accused by some, because of it, for playing &#8220;soft.&#8221;  But he could be my favorite Cal payer, perhaps after Jackie Ridgle.  When Tamir hit a three, which he did quite often, it was exciting.<br />
      5.  David Paris &#8212; I think he was the son of Bubba.  He wasn&#8217;t very good and I doubt he was 6&#8217;9&#8243; or taller<br />
      6.  Sean Marks &#8212; I think he was 6&#8217;9&#8243; and his game was inside  Not a star player at Cal, but a good one.  Had an amazingly long NBA career, like Hughes, considering he was not a star at Cal.<br />
      7.  Michael Stewart &#8212; very good player, who was probably 6&#8217;9&#8243;, but played so long ago I don&#8217;t remember what type of game he had.</p>
<p>      If this is the entire list of Cal big men who were 6&#8217;9&#8243; and relied upon an inside game, it is extremely weak.  Of course, we could also add Darrell Imhoff to the list, but he played so long ago you have to be either old to remember him or just know a lot about Cal basketball.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveNTexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveNTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mitchie -yes every team has a few upsets each year-  except for Cal  who hasn&#039;t beaten any top 50 team probably no top 75 team, so the only upset for us is our fans.

Stanford fans (they beat Oregon last night)  are laughing their ass off at us for taking this washed up  coach and bragging about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitchie -yes every team has a few upsets each year-  except for Cal  who hasn&#8217;t beaten any top 50 team probably no top 75 team, so the only upset for us is our fans.</p>
<p>Stanford fans (they beat Oregon last night)  are laughing their ass off at us for taking this washed up  coach and bragging about it.</p>
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