Comments on: Basketball: Cal issues statements in response to Mike Montgomery’s shove of Allen Crabbe

By: Kdub

Kdub — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:00:48 +0000

Crabbe got what he deserved…Crabbe was in Zombieland on the court…just sleepwalking out there.

With that said….Monty was WRONG….there is no justification of pushing/shoving one of your players. Makes me wonder how many times Monty has physically abused his players in practice…probably has happened before.

I also don’t think a suspension is warranted…but if Monty does it again, then he should definitely get suspended or fired!

BTW, what happened to the other coaches who have pushed their players? Didn’t Todd Bozeman have an incident last year….wasn’t there another coach who pushed his player earlier this year? What happened to them?

By: kasaja

kasaja — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:40:26 +0000

Anybody who thinks this is the first time Monty has put his had hands on a player has not been watching Cal basketball for the last two years. At SC last year he got so far up Cobbs grill with his hands that Cobbs had to be restrained. I know that happened because I was a few feet away when it did. I mentioned it to a fellow Cal basketball fan who said it was just Monty being Monty. Well Monty has been Monty a few more times since then and Sunday night it came to a head. Isn’t it sad that the only way we ever get any national press is when we embarrass ourselves.
If Monty has lost 4 out of the last five everybody here would have been calling for his head. That’s the bottom line. Crabbe handled it very well and I hope Monty is thanking his lucky stars that he did. Had he gone off and not returned Monty would have been the loser…..along with Crabbe. If you watch the video it is clear Crabbe was having an out of body experience on the court and Monty certainly got his attention but this cannot happen again. I don’t think the next player will be quite as forgiving,

By: BlueNGold

BlueNGold — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:18:31 +0000

Yahoo sports has an article about the shove incident, and the comments that follow are almost all pro Monty. I am not behind what he did, but I just don’t see it as the horrid behavior that some do. I also expect Monty to not lose it like that in the future, which is why I am willing to be forgiving this time.

By: Takeoffthatredshirt

Takeoffthatredshirt — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:58:30 +0000

Wisdom,

Sorry you aren’t feeling well. I always read (and respect) your views on multiple Cal boards even if I don’t always agree. Truly hoping you feel better.

Best,

Takeoff

By: fredrick free

fredrick free — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:54:28 +0000

Mike Montgomery’s been a good coach for a long time.

This was absolutely wrong. He knows other ways to motivate his players. It was no mistake that teammates got between them. Seems Crabbe may have motivated Montgomery.

That would not have been ok.

By: wehofx

wehofx — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:18:21 +0000

Thurminator tweet:

Robert Thurman ‏@Th3Thurmin4tor

People are definitely taking ‘the shove’ out of proportion! Leave it alone and enjoy the show we are putting on in the PAC-12. #GoBears
>>>
True dat!

By: SteveNTexas

SteveNTexas — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:20:42 +0000

Yawn- How about we push Oregon and shove them out of first place. They have been a sorry team since they lost their guard.

By: The Wisdom Cow

The Wisdom Cow — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:31:04 +0000

So, I watched Around The Horn and PTI to get their takes, and the worst statement I heard was trying to compare him to a Chemistry Professor that would have been immediately fired for the same offense.

While I get the idea that he is a teacher, same as a Chemistry Professor, I do believe the fact that the coach’s subject is a contact sport (even if it is called a non-contact sport) puts it into a different category.

Again, Monty crossed my subjective line, but not by much at all. First, people keep arguing “no touching whatsoever,” which makes me wonder how they demonstrate boxing out (which has to involve a coach or aide at at least some level). Touching happens, unlike in chemistry class.

Now, touching to get some one’s attention? Where’s the line for that? Can you not even tap a deaf student on the shoulder if they are looking the other way?

Anywho . . .

After watching the highlight even more now, it’s clear to me the pop to the chest startled Crabbe, but he was not backing up and getting angry until after Solomon got involved, too. Without the audio of what all was heard and said there on the sideline, I can’t make any real conclusions on the extent Crabbe may have been offended by Monty’s touching.

Seriously, had Monty put a straight arm to the chest of Crabbe instead, no actual force, but a touching, that could have put Crabbe on notice and honed his attention, would that minimal “touching” have caused the uproar? I think not.

Absolutes don’t work out well in any situation save greasemonkey.

By: MoreNCsarecoming

MoreNCsarecoming — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:55:32 +0000

So Mike “call me Woody Hayes” Montgomery shoves a player and posters on this board rush to his defense.

If a USC or Stanford coach had done the same thing this board would be 100 replies by now calling for firing and suspensions.

This is another example of a double standard and exactly why I chose to leave ths board.

Don’t bother replying. I’m gone.

By: Gobears49

Gobears49 — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:15:39 +0000

Wehofx,

Again we share the same views. I am also Old School. All of this “no touching” stuff is for the birds. The shove was very slight and didn’t hurt Crabbe at all, except maybe (temporarily) his feelings. My mother used to slap me occasionally when I got fresh and I was better for it. If she did that today she’d possibly be facing jail time.

Loved the way Soloman and Cobbs knew who was right about this and supported the coach, pulling Crabbe away. Cal will be better for this.