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	<title>Comments on: Struise Browers: The best brewer in the world?  Pure Disney, Belgian beer expert Tim  Webb says</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Fenway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Fenway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 06:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing to see here... Tim Webb raving about Gueuze, Lambic and Kriek, hating on anything that is outside of those styles and self-promoting his books.  In fact, I saw Tim Webb at this year&#039;s Alvinne craft beer festival and asked him about his ridiculous biased ratings for the Pajottenland brews (they get the vast majority of 5 star rating in the GBG Belgium) and he gave me some BS about he likes all styles, etc.  Funny, how a few months later he was at Frank Boon&#039;s joint during the Tour de Guezue (awesome event BTW) doing a book signing for his Pajottenland book!  Hmmmmm ....

As for the anti-Yankee comments, sounds like pure jealousy -- can anyone name me any UK breweries (outside of Thornbridge) that stack up to Russian River, 3 Floyds, etc.???       

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and Tim Webb has a vested interest (i.e. financial) to value his.  IMHO, De Struisse produced some of the very finest beers I have tasted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing to see here&#8230; Tim Webb raving about Gueuze, Lambic and Kriek, hating on anything that is outside of those styles and self-promoting his books.  In fact, I saw Tim Webb at this year&#8217;s Alvinne craft beer festival and asked him about his ridiculous biased ratings for the Pajottenland brews (they get the vast majority of 5 star rating in the GBG Belgium) and he gave me some BS about he likes all styles, etc.  Funny, how a few months later he was at Frank Boon&#8217;s joint during the Tour de Guezue (awesome event BTW) doing a book signing for his Pajottenland book!  Hmmmmm &#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the anti-Yankee comments, sounds like pure jealousy &#8212; can anyone name me any UK breweries (outside of Thornbridge) that stack up to Russian River, 3 Floyds, etc.???       </p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and Tim Webb has a vested interest (i.e. financial) to value his.  IMHO, De Struisse produced some of the very finest beers I have tasted.</p>
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		<title>By: Craft Beer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craft Beer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life is too short for bad beer.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is too short for bad beer.  <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To William,

I apologize for my last comment. After deeper study, I must admit that you can not be held responsible for other hosts linking to your articles.

However, hosts, providers &amp; search engines who link to your article can be held fully responsible, when there is enough proof of calumny and/or defamation.

Ratebeer never mentionned or issued a title or award of &quot;Best brewer in the world&quot;. Technically spoken, is the above article made on an error of judgment? Or could it just be that the US vocabulary differs so much from English vocabulary that this whole thread is based upon a traduction problem?

Yours sincerely, Phil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To William,</p>
<p>I apologize for my last comment. After deeper study, I must admit that you can not be held responsible for other hosts linking to your articles.</p>
<p>However, hosts, providers &amp; search engines who link to your article can be held fully responsible, when there is enough proof of calumny and/or defamation.</p>
<p>Ratebeer never mentionned or issued a title or award of &#8220;Best brewer in the world&#8221;. Technically spoken, is the above article made on an error of judgment? Or could it just be that the US vocabulary differs so much from English vocabulary that this whole thread is based upon a traduction problem?</p>
<p>Yours sincerely, Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Filip Geerts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filip Geerts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The discussion continues...
http://belgianbeerboard.com/index.php?option=com_smf&amp;Itemid=88888993&amp;board=1.0
Phil, we&#039;re living in a free world. Free speech is one of the achievements.
Cheers,
Filip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion continues&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://belgianbeerboard.com/index.php?option=com_smf&#038;Itemid=88888993&#038;board=1.0" rel="nofollow">http://belgianbeerboard.com/index.php?option=com_smf&#038;Itemid=88888993&#038;board=1.0</a><br />
Phil, we&#8217;re living in a free world. Free speech is one of the achievements.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Filip</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/2008/07/29/struise-browers-the-best-brewer-in-the-world-pure-disney-belgian-beer-expert-tim-webb-says/comment-page-1/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a petty, you did not find the courage to answer these questions.

Considor yourself lucky to live in the US, because in the Netherlands, we have a juridical system which would fine you a lot of money a day, and for every day this negative publicity would be on your website. Furthermore, you would be fined ever so hard for the fact that hundreds of other blogs have copy pasted your article, you being the only responsible]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a petty, you did not find the courage to answer these questions.</p>
<p>Considor yourself lucky to live in the US, because in the Netherlands, we have a juridical system which would fine you a lot of money a day, and for every day this negative publicity would be on your website. Furthermore, you would be fined ever so hard for the fact that hundreds of other blogs have copy pasted your article, you being the only responsible</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to Carlo... I value the RB and BA sites. It&#039;s fascinating to see what people think about a particular beer. There&#039;s another site I also like a lot. Oxford Beer Data Base. But here&#039;s the rub: best in the whole goddamn world? Huh?

Truth is, if everybody in Americaa who drinks beer voted, Budweiser would no doubt win. In other countries it would no doubt be the lager of choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Carlo&#8230; I value the RB and BA sites. It&#8217;s fascinating to see what people think about a particular beer. There&#8217;s another site I also like a lot. Oxford Beer Data Base. But here&#8217;s the rub: best in the whole goddamn world? Huh?</p>
<p>Truth is, if everybody in Americaa who drinks beer voted, Budweiser would no doubt win. In other countries it would no doubt be the lager of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, let;s be blunt. Proclaiming something the best in the world on a shallow basis, is sheer press agentry. If Rate Beer is the final word, then the Barnum &amp;  Bailey circus is absolutely the greatest show on earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, let;s be blunt. Proclaiming something the best in the world on a shallow basis, is sheer press agentry. If Rate Beer is the final word, then the Barnum &amp;  Bailey circus is absolutely the greatest show on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could continue to discuss forever regarding this topic.

Who is right and who is wrong? Who acts professionally, who is an amateur? What is the definition of good or bad beer? Good, better, best, and other 100 lists, why is one catalogued as subjective, the other as objective?

When  somebody gathers information around a beer, because he thinks it is good, and decides to publish that information in a book. His main intentions are to sell that book, so he can earn money with it.

What happens if the above person uses the same information in a negative way to ruin the reputation of that beer or to harm the reputation of its producer?

How do we call somebody who has the audacity to criticize a 100 list of a colleague or a community, while he makes publicity for his own 100 list in that same interview?

Should I discard the result of more than 1000 opinions, gathered worldwide, regarding one beer, and should I follow his opinion because he says so?

To what level, the blog owner can be held responsible for broadcasting and widely spreading  an article full of subjective content, misleading information, and negative publicity?

Is it professional, and honest, or objective to attack a colleague, community, beer, brewer, brewery, when you make your life in the same sector? Living on it? Enriching yourself by it?

Phil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could continue to discuss forever regarding this topic.</p>
<p>Who is right and who is wrong? Who acts professionally, who is an amateur? What is the definition of good or bad beer? Good, better, best, and other 100 lists, why is one catalogued as subjective, the other as objective?</p>
<p>When  somebody gathers information around a beer, because he thinks it is good, and decides to publish that information in a book. His main intentions are to sell that book, so he can earn money with it.</p>
<p>What happens if the above person uses the same information in a negative way to ruin the reputation of that beer or to harm the reputation of its producer?</p>
<p>How do we call somebody who has the audacity to criticize a 100 list of a colleague or a community, while he makes publicity for his own 100 list in that same interview?</p>
<p>Should I discard the result of more than 1000 opinions, gathered worldwide, regarding one beer, and should I follow his opinion because he says so?</p>
<p>To what level, the blog owner can be held responsible for broadcasting and widely spreading  an article full of subjective content, misleading information, and negative publicity?</p>
<p>Is it professional, and honest, or objective to attack a colleague, community, beer, brewer, brewery, when you make your life in the same sector? Living on it? Enriching yourself by it?</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Lachesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lachesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nice thing about the RB or the BA system is the comments that people write down about the beers they have tasted.
I think this is more valuable than points because it explanes why the taster likes the beer or not.
Some comments are really fantastic if you see how some of the raters are able to detect special spices, hop varieties and other ingredients in the beer.
Some of them are real poëts, others are very techincal, some are good some less good and some are real Pro&#039;s.
Beer-journalists can learn here.

The more ratings a beer get, the more the puzzle falls into place on levels of what its worth and I mean on its true value as a well crafted product.

Cheers,
Carlo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nice thing about the RB or the BA system is the comments that people write down about the beers they have tasted.<br />
I think this is more valuable than points because it explanes why the taster likes the beer or not.<br />
Some comments are really fantastic if you see how some of the raters are able to detect special spices, hop varieties and other ingredients in the beer.<br />
Some of them are real poëts, others are very techincal, some are good some less good and some are real Pro&#8217;s.<br />
Beer-journalists can learn here.</p>
<p>The more ratings a beer get, the more the puzzle falls into place on levels of what its worth and I mean on its true value as a well crafted product.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Carlo</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try the Danish or Belgian version of Pannepøt against Westy 12, Rochefort 10, St. Bernardus 12....I&#039;m not saying what&#039;s best but damn, those are some tasty brews, some of the worlds&#039; best for that style (though I think I&#039;d prefer a Westy 8!).
I like RB and BA but take their top lists with a grain of salt.  We each have different tastes.  However, when 1974 people rate Rochefort as excellent, or 700 people rate Pannepot as excellent, that is a good guide for me to want those brews.  Likewise, when 860+ people rate Michelob Ultra as not so good, I won&#039;t be seeking out that beast! Additionally, the Burgundian Babble Belt (Belgian Beer lovers) rated Struise as the best brewery at the end of last year...
&quot;Brewery of the year, Belgian:


1st place: De Struise Brouwers - runaway winners with a total of 9 votes (from the 33 cast in this category - a great performance)

2nd place: tie between St Bernardus, Alvinne, Cantillon and De la Senne, all of which received two votes each.&quot;

None of has to agree, but there&#039;s a big love for top ten or top 100 lists, whether it&#039;s movies, beaches, hot dogs or beer.  I like such lists...ayieeee!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the Danish or Belgian version of Pannepøt against Westy 12, Rochefort 10, St. Bernardus 12&#8230;.I&#8217;m not saying what&#8217;s best but damn, those are some tasty brews, some of the worlds&#8217; best for that style (though I think I&#8217;d prefer a Westy 8!).<br />
I like RB and BA but take their top lists with a grain of salt.  We each have different tastes.  However, when 1974 people rate Rochefort as excellent, or 700 people rate Pannepot as excellent, that is a good guide for me to want those brews.  Likewise, when 860+ people rate Michelob Ultra as not so good, I won&#8217;t be seeking out that beast! Additionally, the Burgundian Babble Belt (Belgian Beer lovers) rated Struise as the best brewery at the end of last year&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Brewery of the year, Belgian:</p>
<p>1st place: De Struise Brouwers &#8211; runaway winners with a total of 9 votes (from the 33 cast in this category &#8211; a great performance)</p>
<p>2nd place: tie between St Bernardus, Alvinne, Cantillon and De la Senne, all of which received two votes each.&#8221;</p>
<p>None of has to agree, but there&#8217;s a big love for top ten or top 100 lists, whether it&#8217;s movies, beaches, hot dogs or beer.  I like such lists&#8230;ayieeee!!</p>
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