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	<title>Comments on: Best and worst of 2008: Pliny and light lager</title>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or take even the next step and get yourself some Pliny the Younger.  Devilishly drinkable at 11%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or take even the next step and get yourself some Pliny the Younger.  Devilishly drinkable at 11%.</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the difference betwwen 5 percent (Blind Pig) and Pliny, 8 percent is quite a leap. That;s the one problem with Pliny, it&#039;s so drinkable, but it&#039;s strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the difference betwwen 5 percent (Blind Pig) and Pliny, 8 percent is quite a leap. That;s the one problem with Pliny, it&#8217;s so drinkable, but it&#8217;s strong.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pliny is getting a lot of &quot;buzz&quot;...but when on tap side by side such as at the &quot;dublinder&quot; &amp; &quot;the hop yard&quot;..i take &quot;blind pig&quot; every time...they taste simaliar..but it is stiill posssible to function after a &quot;blind pig&quot; session...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pliny is getting a lot of &#8220;buzz&#8221;&#8230;but when on tap side by side such as at the &#8220;dublinder&#8221; &amp; &#8220;the hop yard&#8221;..i take &#8220;blind pig&#8221; every time&#8230;they taste simaliar..but it is stiill posssible to function after a &#8220;blind pig&#8221; session&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pliny the Elder!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pliny the Elder!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] months after reading about how incredible it is. Beer-reviewer William Brand even considers it his best beer of the year: This is simply awesome double IPA: 8% percent, 100 IBUs. And Russian River got it right in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] months after reading about how incredible it is. Beer-reviewer William Brand even considers it his best beer of the year: This is simply awesome double IPA: 8% percent, 100 IBUs. And Russian River got it right in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eldridge Grade :White Knuckle&quot; Double IPA is a true champ. Every time I go to Marin Brewing and it&#039;s on, I order it without blinking. A great beer. Ditto with the redst of the list. Great list.

I didn&#039;t include Bud Ameican Ale, because I think it was an honest attempt to make a decent ale. Loath all pumpkin ales, except Great PUmpkin from Elysian in Seattle and  I can just barely tolerate Punkin Head from Dogfish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eldridge Grade :White Knuckle&#8221; Double IPA is a true champ. Every time I go to Marin Brewing and it&#8217;s on, I order it without blinking. A great beer. Ditto with the redst of the list. Great list.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t include Bud Ameican Ale, because I think it was an honest attempt to make a decent ale. Loath all pumpkin ales, except Great PUmpkin from Elysian in Seattle and  I can just barely tolerate Punkin Head from Dogfish.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best:
Marin Brewing; Eldridge Grade Double IPA (named after a  lung torturing Mt. Tam trail)
SpeakEasy; Hunters Point Porter (why isnt this in bottles yet)
GreenFlash; Double IPA, Red, and Stout(Good stuff through and through)
Sequoia Brewing; General Sherman IPA
Unibroue; Maudite (truthfully, anything theses guys make)

Worst:
Budweiser, American Ale(nice try but kind of weak)
Bison Brewery, IPA (may be just a bad bottle but overly carbonated)
Buffalo Bill&#039;s Pumpkin Ale, (now I know why this was 1/2 off, where is the falvor?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best:<br />
Marin Brewing; Eldridge Grade Double IPA (named after a  lung torturing Mt. Tam trail)<br />
SpeakEasy; Hunters Point Porter (why isnt this in bottles yet)<br />
GreenFlash; Double IPA, Red, and Stout(Good stuff through and through)<br />
Sequoia Brewing; General Sherman IPA<br />
Unibroue; Maudite (truthfully, anything theses guys make)</p>
<p>Worst:<br />
Budweiser, American Ale(nice try but kind of weak)<br />
Bison Brewery, IPA (may be just a bad bottle but overly carbonated)<br />
Buffalo Bill&#8217;s Pumpkin Ale, (now I know why this was 1/2 off, where is the falvor?)</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, your choices aer impeccable. The Abyss, FW 12. Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, your choices aer impeccable. The Abyss, FW 12. Amen</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree that Pliny is (atleast my) best of &#039;08. My how my tastes have changed, first had it on tap at the Carlsbad Pizza Port and hated it. But this was just at the start of my craft beer drinking experience, now I can&#039;t get enough of it!

Also have to throw in Deschutes - The Abyss &#039;08 and Firestone Walker 12, both amazing. Few bottles of these being aged, so we&#039;ll see how they fare next year too!

Happy Holidays to all. William, finding this site this year has opened my eyes (and mouth) to a number of great new beers, I thank you for that sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree that Pliny is (atleast my) best of &#8217;08. My how my tastes have changed, first had it on tap at the Carlsbad Pizza Port and hated it. But this was just at the start of my craft beer drinking experience, now I can&#8217;t get enough of it!</p>
<p>Also have to throw in Deschutes &#8211; The Abyss &#8217;08 and Firestone Walker 12, both amazing. Few bottles of these being aged, so we&#8217;ll see how they fare next year too!</p>
<p>Happy Holidays to all. William, finding this site this year has opened my eyes (and mouth) to a number of great new beers, I thank you for that sir!</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we do have bad beer in the bay area ...and they are quit easy to find...(unfortunatiy)..but being the season of &quot;good will towards man&quot;...i will not mention any names....cheers and &quot;happy year of the ox&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we do have bad beer in the bay area &#8230;and they are quit easy to find&#8230;(unfortunatiy)..but being the season of &#8220;good will towards man&#8221;&#8230;i will not mention any names&#8230;.cheers and &#8220;happy year of the ox&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil_L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil_L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh - forgot Marin Grand Funk, and the IIPA&#039;s at Moylans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh &#8211; forgot Marin Grand Funk, and the IIPA&#8217;s at Moylans.</p>
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