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	<title>Comments on: The audacity of statistics: Rate Beer names the best</title>
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		<title>By: How to Get Six Pack Fast</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Get Six Pack Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can tell that this is not the first time at all that you mention this topic. Why have you decided to touch it again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell that this is not the first time at all that you mention this topic. Why have you decided to touch it again?</p>
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		<title>By: William brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only complaint is the lack of qualification It&#039;s ratebeer&#039;s best beer in the world]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only complaint is the lack of qualification It&#8217;s ratebeer&#8217;s best beer in the world</p>
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		<title>By: Mario (Brewed For Thought)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario (Brewed For Thought)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All beers are equal but some are more equal than others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All beers are equal but some are more equal than others.</p>
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		<title>By: CelticBrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelticBrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sheeeesh, so what if RB gives out their &quot;Best Of&quot; list?  Bottom line, those of us from RB have one thing in common, the love of beer.  With the amount of rates and opinions, its nearly scientific when it comes to the list.  But by no means is it etched in stone, certainly everyone, whether your with RB or Beer Advocate or some other beer site, is entitled to what they consider best.  I do completely disagree with Chris who stated &quot;Just because you rate over 100 beers doesn’t mean you know what you are talking about.&quot;  Well, it at least qualifies one to give a little better educated rate or opinion.  Sheeesh, you could go to some other Beer site that based on &quot;The Brothers&quot; opinions.  Just remember, its BEER.  Slainte!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeeesh, so what if RB gives out their &#8220;Best Of&#8221; list?  Bottom line, those of us from RB have one thing in common, the love of beer.  With the amount of rates and opinions, its nearly scientific when it comes to the list.  But by no means is it etched in stone, certainly everyone, whether your with RB or Beer Advocate or some other beer site, is entitled to what they consider best.  I do completely disagree with Chris who stated &#8220;Just because you rate over 100 beers doesn’t mean you know what you are talking about.&#8221;  Well, it at least qualifies one to give a little better educated rate or opinion.  Sheeesh, you could go to some other Beer site that based on &#8220;The Brothers&#8221; opinions.  Just remember, its BEER.  Slainte!</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because 1. English bitter doesn&#039;t make it here, except in the bottled Pale Ale form and no doubt there&#039;s a distinct lack of UK types present on Ratebeer.  At least, that&#039;s my humble opinion.

Being American: Is Timothy Taylor&#039;s Landlord a bitter? If so, it oughta be on top. Ditto Hopback Summer Lightning, If I could get those two beers on cask at a pub here, I&#039;d never leave..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because 1. English bitter doesn&#8217;t make it here, except in the bottled Pale Ale form and no doubt there&#8217;s a distinct lack of UK types present on Ratebeer.  At least, that&#8217;s my humble opinion.</p>
<p>Being American: Is Timothy Taylor&#8217;s Landlord a bitter? If so, it oughta be on top. Ditto Hopback Summer Lightning, If I could get those two beers on cask at a pub here, I&#8217;d never leave..</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how can a list like this not include an english bitter...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can a list like this not include an english bitter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: William Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only rub I have with list is the &quot;best in the world&quot; proclamation. Ratebeer top-rated would be accurate. But  best in the whole goddamn world? Hmmm. And the Barnum &amp; Bailey Circus is the Greatest Show on Earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only rub I have with list is the &#8220;best in the world&#8221; proclamation. Ratebeer top-rated would be accurate. But  best in the whole goddamn world? Hmmm. And the Barnum &amp; Bailey Circus is the Greatest Show on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is my favorite beer rating of all time from Beer Advocate. As the rater states, he drank Wexford Irish Cream Ale &quot;superwarm&quot; and for some reason gave it an &quot;F&quot;
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/203/2635/?sort=low&amp;start=0

I realize that this is an extreme example but don&#039;t ratings like this go into their &quot;best&quot; lists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my favorite beer rating of all time from Beer Advocate. As the rater states, he drank Wexford Irish Cream Ale &#8220;superwarm&#8221; and for some reason gave it an &#8220;F&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/203/2635/?sort=low&#038;start=0" rel="nofollow">http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/203/2635/?sort=low&#038;start=0</a></p>
<p>I realize that this is an extreme example but don&#8217;t ratings like this go into their &#8220;best&#8221; lists?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saying what is the best beer in the world is way too subjective. You have to be kidding about the best beer bar being in TAMPA, FLORIDA. You can see what they have on tap at their site and it pales in comparison to great beer bars like the Toronado SF, O&#039;Briens, Hamilton&#039;s Tavern, Falling Rock, Brouwer&#039;s, Horse Brass, Brickskeller. Here in the Bay Area you can find better Belgians at La Trappe, The Trappist or the Monk&#039;s Kettle and Suppenkuche in SF has a much better selection of German beers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying what is the best beer in the world is way too subjective. You have to be kidding about the best beer bar being in TAMPA, FLORIDA. You can see what they have on tap at their site and it pales in comparison to great beer bars like the Toronado SF, O&#8217;Briens, Hamilton&#8217;s Tavern, Falling Rock, Brouwer&#8217;s, Horse Brass, Brickskeller. Here in the Bay Area you can find better Belgians at La Trappe, The Trappist or the Monk&#8217;s Kettle and Suppenkuche in SF has a much better selection of German beers.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first response is that this would be more palatable if the word &quot;best&quot; were replaced with &quot;highest rated&quot;.

That being said, there is an interesting statistical phenomenon that occurs with online ratings, where very good, but perhaps slightly less challenging entries end up with higher ratings than the arguably &quot;better&quot; or &quot;greater&quot; entries. This can be seen with Metacritic as well. The all time highest rated movie on Metacritic is The Godfather, yet number two is Superman II. Also in the top 15 are Rattatouille, Sideways, and Lord of the Rings. Not that these are terrible movies, they are good, but one has to wonder about the integrity of the rating system when films from the likes of Mallick, Kurosawa, and Kieslowski, all of whom are revered as geniuses who produced multiple masterpieces amongst people serious about film, don&#039;t appear in the top 200.

I&#039;ve also noticed that the Beeradvocate highest rated lists tend to heavily favor darker beers, probably because the spectacular lighter (in color) beers tend to be more polarizing, thus bringing their scores down. A great Gueuze or Double IPA will inevitably be all but undrinkable to a certain segment of the population (my own pet theory is that these flavors are too strong for supertasters - people with lots of taste buds), whereas fewer people have that reaction to even the most challenging stouts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first response is that this would be more palatable if the word &#8220;best&#8221; were replaced with &#8220;highest rated&#8221;.</p>
<p>That being said, there is an interesting statistical phenomenon that occurs with online ratings, where very good, but perhaps slightly less challenging entries end up with higher ratings than the arguably &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;greater&#8221; entries. This can be seen with Metacritic as well. The all time highest rated movie on Metacritic is The Godfather, yet number two is Superman II. Also in the top 15 are Rattatouille, Sideways, and Lord of the Rings. Not that these are terrible movies, they are good, but one has to wonder about the integrity of the rating system when films from the likes of Mallick, Kurosawa, and Kieslowski, all of whom are revered as geniuses who produced multiple masterpieces amongst people serious about film, don&#8217;t appear in the top 200.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed that the Beeradvocate highest rated lists tend to heavily favor darker beers, probably because the spectacular lighter (in color) beers tend to be more polarizing, thus bringing their scores down. A great Gueuze or Double IPA will inevitably be all but undrinkable to a certain segment of the population (my own pet theory is that these flavors are too strong for supertasters &#8211; people with lots of taste buds), whereas fewer people have that reaction to even the most challenging stouts.</p>
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