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		<title>By: hills parent</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/03/04/principals-unite/comment-page-1/#comment-16145</link>
		<dc:creator>hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having worked in a number of school districts as an administrator I can say that due to the small elementary schools and charter schools that an incredible amount of funds is being spent on administration.  Many other school districts would have closed elementary schools long ago, rather than face fiscal disaster.  I know that no community wants to deal with losing their neighborhood schools, but maybe this would be more responsible than allowing the district to be in a continual state of budget crisis. This may also provide additional funds to provide salary increases to teachers and SITE administrators.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked in a number of school districts as an administrator I can say that due to the small elementary schools and charter schools that an incredible amount of funds is being spent on administration.  Many other school districts would have closed elementary schools long ago, rather than face fiscal disaster.  I know that no community wants to deal with losing their neighborhood schools, but maybe this would be more responsible than allowing the district to be in a continual state of budget crisis. This may also provide additional funds to provide salary increases to teachers and SITE administrators.</p>
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		<title>By: localteacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>localteacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for looking into this Jim.  I definitely agree with what you are saying - that in order for Oakland to attract more teachers (especially high quality teachers) we need to make sure that salaries are competitive.

One speculation, though, about the administrative number - could the higher average be a result of all of the new small schools in Oakland?  Having more schools means more principals and/or assistant principals, and perhaps could account for the differences?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for looking into this Jim.  I definitely agree with what you are saying &#8211; that in order for Oakland to attract more teachers (especially high quality teachers) we need to make sure that salaries are competitive.</p>
<p>One speculation, though, about the administrative number &#8211; could the higher average be a result of all of the new small schools in Oakland?  Having more schools means more principals and/or assistant principals, and perhaps could account for the differences?</p>
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		<title>By: jim2812</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim2812</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing it means to me is that both teachers and principals are paid below average as compared to the whole state.  As the Bay Area is a higher cost of living than most of the State, Oakland is failing to offer competitive salaries to both teachers and principals.

Even if Oakland paid the State average (remember this average is from 04-05 and we are in 07-08 school year), neighboring districts would have to be checked to see if Oakland was competitive.

Finally, I find the percentage of the budget figure for money spent on teachers and principals a concern.  Being below the State average at 35.2% verses 40.9 for teachers makes Oakland less attractive in attracting teachers.  If you look at the salaries of principals below the state average for principals at elementary, middle and high school, the only thing I can think of regarding 6.1 verses 5.3 figure is that there is too much money paid to the administrators that are not principals but administrators in the central office.  This means the Expect Success program has not yet been successful in cutting out high priced central administrators.  If the program had been successful administrative cost in the district would be lower than the state average.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing it means to me is that both teachers and principals are paid below average as compared to the whole state.  As the Bay Area is a higher cost of living than most of the State, Oakland is failing to offer competitive salaries to both teachers and principals.</p>
<p>Even if Oakland paid the State average (remember this average is from 04-05 and we are in 07-08 school year), neighboring districts would have to be checked to see if Oakland was competitive.</p>
<p>Finally, I find the percentage of the budget figure for money spent on teachers and principals a concern.  Being below the State average at 35.2% verses 40.9 for teachers makes Oakland less attractive in attracting teachers.  If you look at the salaries of principals below the state average for principals at elementary, middle and high school, the only thing I can think of regarding 6.1 verses 5.3 figure is that there is too much money paid to the administrators that are not principals but administrators in the central office.  This means the Expect Success program has not yet been successful in cutting out high priced central administrators.  If the program had been successful administrative cost in the district would be lower than the state average.</p>
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		<title>By: hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So salaries across the board are lower in Oakland than the state averages, with the exception of the superintendent (state administrator).  Also, the percent of budget for administrative salaries is higher in Oakland than statewide.  SO does this mean that there are too many administrators at the district office?  Does it mean that we have too many site administators with small schools that should be consolidated?  What does all of this mean in the big picture of budget cuts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So salaries across the board are lower in Oakland than the state averages, with the exception of the superintendent (state administrator).  Also, the percent of budget for administrative salaries is higher in Oakland than statewide.  SO does this mean that there are too many administrators at the district office?  Does it mean that we have too many site administators with small schools that should be consolidated?  What does all of this mean in the big picture of budget cuts?</p>
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		<title>By: jim2812</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim2812</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teacher and Administrative Salaries (Fiscal Year 2004-05)  [Three year old data taken from District webpage on school report card for Oakland High School.  This is information from California Department of Education webpage].

This table displays district-level salary information for teachers, principals, and superintendents, and compares these figures to the state averages for districts of the same type and size. The table also displays teacher and administrative salaries as a percent of a district&#039;s budget, and compares these figures to the state averages for districts of the same type and size. Detailed information regarding salaries can be found at the CDE Web site at http://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/fd/cs/ and http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/sa/salaries0405.asp.

 Category
  District
 Amount
  State Average
 For Districts
 In Same Category

 Beginning Teacher Salary
  $37,090
  $37,540

 Mid-Range Teacher Salary
  $51,070
  $59,426

 Highest Teacher Salary
  $67,720
  $73,925

 Average Principal Salary (Elementary)
  $93,520
  $96,377

 Average Principal Salary (Middle)
  $95,450
  $100,144

 Average Principal Salary (High)
  $102,921
  $109,130

 Superintendent Salary
  $239,640
  $185,251

 Percent of Budget for Teacher Salaries
  35.2
  40.9

 Percent of Budget for Administrative Salaries
  6.1
  5.3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher and Administrative Salaries (Fiscal Year 2004-05)  [Three year old data taken from District webpage on school report card for Oakland High School.  This is information from California Department of Education webpage].</p>
<p>This table displays district-level salary information for teachers, principals, and superintendents, and compares these figures to the state averages for districts of the same type and size. The table also displays teacher and administrative salaries as a percent of a district&#8217;s budget, and compares these figures to the state averages for districts of the same type and size. Detailed information regarding salaries can be found at the CDE Web site at <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/fd/cs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/fd/cs/</a> and <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/sa/salaries0405.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/sa/salaries0405.asp</a>.</p>
<p> Category<br />
  District<br />
 Amount<br />
  State Average<br />
 For Districts<br />
 In Same Category</p>
<p> Beginning Teacher Salary<br />
  $37,090<br />
  $37,540</p>
<p> Mid-Range Teacher Salary<br />
  $51,070<br />
  $59,426</p>
<p> Highest Teacher Salary<br />
  $67,720<br />
  $73,925</p>
<p> Average Principal Salary (Elementary)<br />
  $93,520<br />
  $96,377</p>
<p> Average Principal Salary (Middle)<br />
  $95,450<br />
  $100,144</p>
<p> Average Principal Salary (High)<br />
  $102,921<br />
  $109,130</p>
<p> Superintendent Salary<br />
  $239,640<br />
  $185,251</p>
<p> Percent of Budget for Teacher Salaries<br />
  35.2<br />
  40.9</p>
<p> Percent of Budget for Administrative Salaries<br />
  6.1<br />
  5.3</p>
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