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		<title>By: Tam Newby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam Newby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closing Neighborhood Schools is bad for Oakland Unified School District. Check out www.gps-schools.org . It&#039;s a website that chronicles all that is wrong with OUSD&#039;s plan. In 2005 Portland Public Schools District (PPS) closed down neighborhood schools and began selling the real estate off in a short sighted plan to raise money and &#039;steamline efficiency&#039;. It hasn&#039;t worked. In fact it&#039;s a disaster in terms of achievement not to mention sustainability.
Now the district needs taxpayers to pay for new schools to be built which will cost infinitely more than what was sold off.
Instead of small neighborhood schools which are statistically proven to provide the best academic achievement, PPS is proposing to warehouse children in mega schools. Children are spending a lot of time being bussed all over the city as a result of the &#039;choice concept.&#039; Academic achievement is sinking in Portland. Beware Oakland. Go to gps-schools.org for more info.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closing Neighborhood Schools is bad for Oakland Unified School District. Check out <a href="http://www.gps-schools.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gps-schools.org</a> . It&#8217;s a website that chronicles all that is wrong with OUSD&#8217;s plan. In 2005 Portland Public Schools District (PPS) closed down neighborhood schools and began selling the real estate off in a short sighted plan to raise money and &#8216;steamline efficiency&#8217;. It hasn&#8217;t worked. In fact it&#8217;s a disaster in terms of achievement not to mention sustainability.<br />
Now the district needs taxpayers to pay for new schools to be built which will cost infinitely more than what was sold off.<br />
Instead of small neighborhood schools which are statistically proven to provide the best academic achievement, PPS is proposing to warehouse children in mega schools. Children are spending a lot of time being bussed all over the city as a result of the &#8216;choice concept.&#8217; Academic achievement is sinking in Portland. Beware Oakland. Go to gps-schools.org for more info.</p>
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		<title>By: School `right-sizing&#8217; is upon us - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</title>
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		<dc:creator>School `right-sizing&#8217; is upon us - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] May, we learned that Oakland Unified&#8217;s financial team was recommending the closure or merger of 10-17 schools because of declining enrollment. Well, those tough discussions are about to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] May, we learned that Oakland Unified&#8217;s financial team was recommending the closure or merger of 10-17 schools because of declining enrollment. Well, those tough discussions are about to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cranky teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>cranky teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oakie, be careful with drawing big conclusions from those rough numbers. If you compare Berkeley&#039;s census numbers to public school enrollment you get the same results.

Public schools are deeply flawed everywhere. Despite its bad rap, I suspect Oakland is no worse or better than the average of districts that serve a similar demographic in California.

Sadly, that average is very low.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oakie, be careful with drawing big conclusions from those rough numbers. If you compare Berkeley&#8217;s census numbers to public school enrollment you get the same results.</p>
<p>Public schools are deeply flawed everywhere. Despite its bad rap, I suspect Oakland is no worse or better than the average of districts that serve a similar demographic in California.</p>
<p>Sadly, that average is very low.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We also need to break up the teachers who are also lock-step. Our school has some really great teachers, but there is a 2nd grade teacher who actually has said not to teach children in advance of the curriculum because it is difficult for a classroom teacher to have such a variety of abilities.

We have a particular 3rd grade teacher who completely differentiates in her classroom and she is seen as an &quot;outsider with a loud class.&quot; Her students are able to work about a grade below 3rd and up to their abilities above 3rd grade, some as high as 5th grade levels.

I would love to hear from teachers why it is difficult to modify homework for kids based on their ability. For example, if you give a pre-test on a subject and the children pass with a 90% or better, why can&#039;t they be given homework that is different from those who do not pre-test at 90%? My son&#039;s classroom is already pre-testing to show how much they &quot;learned.&quot;

Also, the &quot;group leaders&quot; from the &quot;Expect Success&quot; program really seem to focus on &quot;closing the achievement gap.&quot; To do so, they need the advanced kids not to continue to advance so quickly. If you have students advancing 1.5 to 2 grade levels of work and other students, particularly those of color advancing 1 grade level each school year, the achievement gap becomes greater. Perhaps the measurement should be changed evaluate the student&#039;s ability and level at the beginning of the school year and that at the end. If a child has a history of 1.5 to 2 grade levels per year that would be the expectation for that student. And EVERY student should be able to advance 1 grade level per year, minimum.

Another question, for those who might know. Title 1 schools get more money per student. I have recently visited 3 Oakland Title 1 schools. All of them have security guards at the elementary level - - - sometimes 1 guard, sometimes up to 3. Wouldn&#039;t the student population be better served to have tutors rather than guards? All three schools had a guard that was flipping through a book, newspaper or magazine as the kids were coming in to the school in the morning, none of whom looked up to see the students coming in the door or looking at who was dropping off the students. Aren&#039;t we setting up an expectation to the students in the security guard schools that it is not a safe place to be and security guards are more valuable than tutors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also need to break up the teachers who are also lock-step. Our school has some really great teachers, but there is a 2nd grade teacher who actually has said not to teach children in advance of the curriculum because it is difficult for a classroom teacher to have such a variety of abilities.</p>
<p>We have a particular 3rd grade teacher who completely differentiates in her classroom and she is seen as an &#8220;outsider with a loud class.&#8221; Her students are able to work about a grade below 3rd and up to their abilities above 3rd grade, some as high as 5th grade levels.</p>
<p>I would love to hear from teachers why it is difficult to modify homework for kids based on their ability. For example, if you give a pre-test on a subject and the children pass with a 90% or better, why can&#8217;t they be given homework that is different from those who do not pre-test at 90%? My son&#8217;s classroom is already pre-testing to show how much they &#8220;learned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;group leaders&#8221; from the &#8220;Expect Success&#8221; program really seem to focus on &#8220;closing the achievement gap.&#8221; To do so, they need the advanced kids not to continue to advance so quickly. If you have students advancing 1.5 to 2 grade levels of work and other students, particularly those of color advancing 1 grade level each school year, the achievement gap becomes greater. Perhaps the measurement should be changed evaluate the student&#8217;s ability and level at the beginning of the school year and that at the end. If a child has a history of 1.5 to 2 grade levels per year that would be the expectation for that student. And EVERY student should be able to advance 1 grade level per year, minimum.</p>
<p>Another question, for those who might know. Title 1 schools get more money per student. I have recently visited 3 Oakland Title 1 schools. All of them have security guards at the elementary level &#8211; - &#8211; sometimes 1 guard, sometimes up to 3. Wouldn&#8217;t the student population be better served to have tutors rather than guards? All three schools had a guard that was flipping through a book, newspaper or magazine as the kids were coming in to the school in the morning, none of whom looked up to see the students coming in the door or looking at who was dropping off the students. Aren&#8217;t we setting up an expectation to the students in the security guard schools that it is not a safe place to be and security guards are more valuable than tutors?</p>
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		<title>By: Public school fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public school fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another Hills Parent:

Yes, your K experience sounds the same as ours.  But this isn&#039;t a curriculum failure.  It&#039;s a failure of the school and the district to understand that they have a duty to educate each child to the best of that child&#039;s abilities -- whether those be average abilities or advanced ones.  The district has some real diamonds in its classes (as well as families who would rather stay in public school in a diverse environment if they are able to do so in good conscience), but doesn&#039;t seem to understand the value of trying to actually educate those kids.

Again, I realize that the district has much larger issues than this one and a finite amount of resources, but shouldn&#039;t they try to push each child to the highest level that child can achieve?  Isn&#039;t that what education is supposed to be about?  Frankly, I&#039;m not sure that the district really cares about what is going on at each school site, as long as it doesn&#039;t cause bad headlines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Hills Parent:</p>
<p>Yes, your K experience sounds the same as ours.  But this isn&#8217;t a curriculum failure.  It&#8217;s a failure of the school and the district to understand that they have a duty to educate each child to the best of that child&#8217;s abilities &#8212; whether those be average abilities or advanced ones.  The district has some real diamonds in its classes (as well as families who would rather stay in public school in a diverse environment if they are able to do so in good conscience), but doesn&#8217;t seem to understand the value of trying to actually educate those kids.</p>
<p>Again, I realize that the district has much larger issues than this one and a finite amount of resources, but shouldn&#8217;t they try to push each child to the highest level that child can achieve?  Isn&#8217;t that what education is supposed to be about?  Frankly, I&#8217;m not sure that the district really cares about what is going on at each school site, as long as it doesn&#8217;t cause bad headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: another hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>another hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Public school fan:

The situation at my child&#039;s &quot;hill&quot; school is that the kindergarten program is very much lock-stepped.  All students do the same thing at the same time, regardless of their ability level.  This may work for children working to meet state standards.  However for the brighter students this means that they are not challenged and forced to repeat what they already learned in preschool.

Do I blame this on the school?  Absolutely

Do I blame this on the district?  Absolutely

I seriously doubt that the district office staff has any clue as to what is occurring at the school sites.  For instance, they had no clue that for many, many years the school was recommending upwards of 25% of the Kindergarten students to repeat K.  This is absurb!  AND the district office did NOT know that this was common practice at this &quot;hills&quot; school, at least not until this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public school fan:</p>
<p>The situation at my child&#8217;s &#8220;hill&#8221; school is that the kindergarten program is very much lock-stepped.  All students do the same thing at the same time, regardless of their ability level.  This may work for children working to meet state standards.  However for the brighter students this means that they are not challenged and forced to repeat what they already learned in preschool.</p>
<p>Do I blame this on the school?  Absolutely</p>
<p>Do I blame this on the district?  Absolutely</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that the district office staff has any clue as to what is occurring at the school sites.  For instance, they had no clue that for many, many years the school was recommending upwards of 25% of the Kindergarten students to repeat K.  This is absurb!  AND the district office did NOT know that this was common practice at this &#8220;hills&#8221; school, at least not until this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Public school fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public school fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, Hills Parent, is it really the curriculum (aside from Open Court) that is at issue?  Isn&#039;t it really the lack of support from the top of OUSD on down into the classroom for challenging the more advanced students?  The teachers and the individual schools have no incentive to do so, because they are not rewarded for doing so (or trained to do so).  The only the thing that is rewarded is an increase in the school&#039;s API.  Thus, performance on standardized tests is seen as the end all and be all.  And the below proficient kids are therefore going to get the attention and resources.  Generally, although not always the case, the advanced students are going to test well.  Thus, no need and no resources available and no support to challenge those students.

Any professional teacher with the proper training and support should be able to challenge the advanced students simply be enhancing the existing curriculum, i.e., having the more advanced students write a more advanced essay -- such as a page rather than a paragraph; giving a more nuanced topic to write about, etc.  So, I don&#039;t think it is the curriculum per se, I think that the downfall is much worse -- it is the philosophy of the district and the schools that is at issue.

Now, I did not personally hear this, but a friend who has a bright child in one of the &quot;good hills&quot; schools told a group of people (including me) that when she asked the principal about programs within the school to challenge her child, the principal said, &quot;If your child is bright and academically advanced, then your child does not belong in public school; that&#039;s what private school is for.&quot;  Yikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Hills Parent, is it really the curriculum (aside from Open Court) that is at issue?  Isn&#8217;t it really the lack of support from the top of OUSD on down into the classroom for challenging the more advanced students?  The teachers and the individual schools have no incentive to do so, because they are not rewarded for doing so (or trained to do so).  The only the thing that is rewarded is an increase in the school&#8217;s API.  Thus, performance on standardized tests is seen as the end all and be all.  And the below proficient kids are therefore going to get the attention and resources.  Generally, although not always the case, the advanced students are going to test well.  Thus, no need and no resources available and no support to challenge those students.</p>
<p>Any professional teacher with the proper training and support should be able to challenge the advanced students simply be enhancing the existing curriculum, i.e., having the more advanced students write a more advanced essay &#8212; such as a page rather than a paragraph; giving a more nuanced topic to write about, etc.  So, I don&#8217;t think it is the curriculum per se, I think that the downfall is much worse &#8212; it is the philosophy of the district and the schools that is at issue.</p>
<p>Now, I did not personally hear this, but a friend who has a bright child in one of the &#8220;good hills&#8221; schools told a group of people (including me) that when she asked the principal about programs within the school to challenge her child, the principal said, &#8220;If your child is bright and academically advanced, then your child does not belong in public school; that&#8217;s what private school is for.&#8221;  Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catherine:

That is precisely why my family is leaving our &quot;hills&quot; school. The curriculum does not challenge students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine:</p>
<p>That is precisely why my family is leaving our &#8220;hills&#8221; school. The curriculum does not challenge students.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy should also talk to the parents of students who transferred into St. Theresa&#039;s from public schools - I can think of three such families - when asked they will tell you it was the low quality of education of their bright kids in hills schools.

These schools do not challenge the kids, they hothouse them for their test scores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy should also talk to the parents of students who transferred into St. Theresa&#8217;s from public schools &#8211; I can think of three such families &#8211; when asked they will tell you it was the low quality of education of their bright kids in hills schools.</p>
<p>These schools do not challenge the kids, they hothouse them for their test scores.</p>
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		<title>By: another hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>another hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 04:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katie:

Whether you write a story about families moving out of Oakland due to the schools or attend private schools the results will be the same --- that Oakland schools are failing our children and if this trend continues can the private schools continue to take in all of these children?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie:</p>
<p>Whether you write a story about families moving out of Oakland due to the schools or attend private schools the results will be the same &#8212; that Oakland schools are failing our children and if this trend continues can the private schools continue to take in all of these children?</p>
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