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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17276</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry! My condolences to your family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry! My condolences to your family.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17270</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That horse is already dead, John.  You can stop beating it whenever your arms get tired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That horse is already dead, John.  You can stop beating it whenever your arms get tired.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17269</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And later they won&#039;t have to &quot;waste a semester of time or spend money on another class.&quot;  For more than some I hope it wouldn&#039;t be a &quot;waste,&quot; and also hope it would provide a source of motivation for growing up and a possible future.  Yes, that sounds (is) much better!

Oh yeah, and they might some day have the extra benefit of transferring those credits and wouldn&#039;t have to waste a semester of time or spend money on another class, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And later they won&#8217;t have to &#8220;waste a semester of time or spend money on another class.&#8221;  For more than some I hope it wouldn&#8217;t be a &#8220;waste,&#8221; and also hope it would provide a source of motivation for growing up and a possible future.  Yes, that sounds (is) much better!</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and they might some day have the extra benefit of transferring those credits and wouldn&#8217;t have to waste a semester of time or spend money on another class, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Sue here. Either auditing a college class or enrolling for credit is often a great thing for a highschooler - provided reasonable precautions are taken. It&#039;s not for everybody but if the student and the proposed college and class are a good match, it can really motivate and interest the highschooler in growing up and their possible future...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sue here. Either auditing a college class or enrolling for credit is often a great thing for a highschooler &#8211; provided reasonable precautions are taken. It&#8217;s not for everybody but if the student and the proposed college and class are a good match, it can really motivate and interest the highschooler in growing up and their possible future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17272</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No CYA or back pedaling here.

The point of my original post was to encourage high schoolers who can, to take a college class or two now while they&#039;re still in high school - even if it&#039;s just for something to do with their time - and they might someday have the extra benefit of tranferring those credits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No CYA or back pedaling here.</p>
<p>The point of my original post was to encourage high schoolers who can, to take a college class or two now while they&#8217;re still in high school &#8211; even if it&#8217;s just for something to do with their time &#8211; and they might someday have the extra benefit of tranferring those credits.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17273</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just didn&#039;t want students to get the wrong message about taking college classes.  I couldn&#039;t ignore THEM in the process of ignoring you.  Anyway, thanks for the CYA back pedaling on this one.  It&#039;s a win for EVERYONE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just didn&#8217;t want students to get the wrong message about taking college classes.  I couldn&#8217;t ignore THEM in the process of ignoring you.  Anyway, thanks for the CYA back pedaling on this one.  It&#8217;s a win for EVERYONE.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um...  John, I thought we&#039;d agreed to ignore each other?

Under most circumstances, I&#039;d agree that taking general requirements classes isn&#039;t a waste.

My circumstances at the time weren&#039;t like most - I was about to finish my Air Force enlistment, and I had only a limited time to complete all the requirements for my degree.

As an enlistee, not officer, I also had a pretty limited income.  I preferred to focus my education budget on classes in my major.

Under different circumstances, I&#039;d probably have stayed in college most of my life.  I have at least two or three more degrees I&#039;d like to pursue - someday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;  John, I thought we&#8217;d agreed to ignore each other?</p>
<p>Under most circumstances, I&#8217;d agree that taking general requirements classes isn&#8217;t a waste.</p>
<p>My circumstances at the time weren&#8217;t like most &#8211; I was about to finish my Air Force enlistment, and I had only a limited time to complete all the requirements for my degree.</p>
<p>As an enlistee, not officer, I also had a pretty limited income.  I preferred to focus my education budget on classes in my major.</p>
<p>Under different circumstances, I&#8217;d probably have stayed in college most of my life.  I have at least two or three more degrees I&#8217;d like to pursue &#8211; someday.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never thought of taking classes as being a waste of time &amp; money.  But I guess everyone is different.  Since the expenditure of time and money is prerequisite to obtaining a college education why not get something back (even when spending your time and money on required courses you may not be attracted to)?

I recall a scene from an old movie wherein a young lady who recently completed her Masters Thesis is asked by a noted scientist if it (the Thesis) did her any good?  She responds, &quot;Well yes, I got the degree!&quot;

There&#039;s real satisfaction in knowing your time and money weren&#039;t wasted and you straddled (accomplished) more than just another academic hurdle.  Give it you’re best and you won&#039;t feel your time and money were wasted on another class, I promise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought of taking classes as being a waste of time &amp; money.  But I guess everyone is different.  Since the expenditure of time and money is prerequisite to obtaining a college education why not get something back (even when spending your time and money on required courses you may not be attracted to)?</p>
<p>I recall a scene from an old movie wherein a young lady who recently completed her Masters Thesis is asked by a noted scientist if it (the Thesis) did her any good?  She responds, &#8220;Well yes, I got the degree!&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s real satisfaction in knowing your time and money weren&#8217;t wasted and you straddled (accomplished) more than just another academic hurdle.  Give it you’re best and you won&#8217;t feel your time and money were wasted on another class, I promise.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel Rodriguez-Vega</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17265</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel Rodriguez-Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the advice about taking summer classes. I have considered this, but Im going to be gone for 3 weeks this summer so I don&#039;t think I will be able to take a class.

I have enrolled for a Merritt class in the fall, however. Intermediate conversational Spanish. I&#039;m excited about it though, because it will be a new experience and environment for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the advice about taking summer classes. I have considered this, but Im going to be gone for 3 weeks this summer so I don&#8217;t think I will be able to take a class.</p>
<p>I have enrolled for a Merritt class in the fall, however. Intermediate conversational Spanish. I&#8217;m excited about it though, because it will be a new experience and environment for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Skyline Teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/06/02/end-of-the-year-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-17266</link>
		<dc:creator>Skyline Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the counselors don&#039;t quit, next year will be better than this one was.

This year was a perfect storm of new counselors, new administrators, overenrollment, understaffing, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the counselors don&#8217;t quit, next year will be better than this one was.</p>
<p>This year was a perfect storm of new counselors, new administrators, overenrollment, understaffing, etc.</p>
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