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	<title>Comments on: Girls are just as good as boys in math, study finds</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No John didn&#039;t say this, but you should read it anyway.

The media&#039;s continuing to perpetrate the myth that females are oppressed and males are the oppressor. For example, they continue to spout these disproven assertions:
-- women earn 79 cents on the dollar compared with men. In fact, for the same work, women earn the same as men.
-- women are underrepresented in high-level positions because of sexism. In fact, as documented in recent well-reviewed books such as Susan Pinker&#039;s The Sexual Paradox, women&#039;s not being in high-office comes much more from choosing to have a less work-centric lifestyle.
-- the schools shortchange girls relative to boys. (the long-debunked Reviving Ophelia canard.)
-- men abuse women--in fact, studies show that 30 to 52% of severe domestic violence is perpetrated by women.

Thus, the subconsciously or consciously held feeling among educators, policymakers, and the public, is that we need to do more for females than for males, ignoring such statistics that boys are achieving far worse in school than are girls, much more likely to abuse drugs, commit suicide, and drop out of high school, far less likely to graduate from college, much more likely, as young adults, to be sleeping late unemployed on their parents&#039; sofas.

Check out: http://www.martynemko.com/about-marty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No John didn&#8217;t say this, but you should read it anyway.</p>
<p>The media&#8217;s continuing to perpetrate the myth that females are oppressed and males are the oppressor. For example, they continue to spout these disproven assertions:<br />
&#8211; women earn 79 cents on the dollar compared with men. In fact, for the same work, women earn the same as men.<br />
&#8211; women are underrepresented in high-level positions because of sexism. In fact, as documented in recent well-reviewed books such as Susan Pinker&#8217;s The Sexual Paradox, women&#8217;s not being in high-office comes much more from choosing to have a less work-centric lifestyle.<br />
&#8211; the schools shortchange girls relative to boys. (the long-debunked Reviving Ophelia canard.)<br />
&#8211; men abuse women&#8211;in fact, studies show that 30 to 52% of severe domestic violence is perpetrated by women.</p>
<p>Thus, the subconsciously or consciously held feeling among educators, policymakers, and the public, is that we need to do more for females than for males, ignoring such statistics that boys are achieving far worse in school than are girls, much more likely to abuse drugs, commit suicide, and drop out of high school, far less likely to graduate from college, much more likely, as young adults, to be sleeping late unemployed on their parents&#8217; sofas.</p>
<p>Check out: <a href="http://www.martynemko.com/about-marty" rel="nofollow">http://www.martynemko.com/about-marty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Debora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a great time to be a girl.

I graduated high school in 1977. I was sent to the vice principal&#039;s office in high school for making the following comment as a typing teacher watched as I memorized a page of text, then typed it while looking at my hands -&quot;You&#039;re never going to make a good secretary she yelled.&quot; - &quot;I don&#039;t want to be a secretary, I want to have one.&quot; I snapped back. That was enough to almost get me kicked out of high school, at least temporarily, for insubordination.

In high school in the 70s in Fremont, California, girls were given four &quot;valid&quot; options: Secretary, Nurse, Teacher or Mother.

My strong and capable daughter is being told that she has a good mind, strong spirit and determined perseverance. This information is given to her at home, school, Saturday language school, through friends, family, and neighbors. To use Nextset’s common term: She’s becoming INDOCTRINATED.

I don&#039;t know how we ever came to the conclusion that girls were not as good in math - probably the same faulty conclusion as race creates a bell curve, boys are poor communicators, Muslims are terrorists - all wrong of course - but we act surprised to find out these are falsehoods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great time to be a girl.</p>
<p>I graduated high school in 1977. I was sent to the vice principal&#8217;s office in high school for making the following comment as a typing teacher watched as I memorized a page of text, then typed it while looking at my hands -&#8221;You&#8217;re never going to make a good secretary she yelled.&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be a secretary, I want to have one.&#8221; I snapped back. That was enough to almost get me kicked out of high school, at least temporarily, for insubordination.</p>
<p>In high school in the 70s in Fremont, California, girls were given four &#8220;valid&#8221; options: Secretary, Nurse, Teacher or Mother.</p>
<p>My strong and capable daughter is being told that she has a good mind, strong spirit and determined perseverance. This information is given to her at home, school, Saturday language school, through friends, family, and neighbors. To use Nextset’s common term: She’s becoming INDOCTRINATED.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how we ever came to the conclusion that girls were not as good in math &#8211; probably the same faulty conclusion as race creates a bell curve, boys are poor communicators, Muslims are terrorists &#8211; all wrong of course &#8211; but we act surprised to find out these are falsehoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always thought the statistical differences were real.  And that I was a bit of a freak because I was good at math.

I finally learned in high school to hide my math aptitude - after ruining any chance I had of a second date with a boy in our church youth group, by not hiding it.  Most of the girls I went to school with were better/smarter about those sorts of social expectations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought the statistical differences were real.  And that I was a bit of a freak because I was good at math.</p>
<p>I finally learned in high school to hide my math aptitude &#8211; after ruining any chance I had of a second date with a boy in our church youth group, by not hiding it.  Most of the girls I went to school with were better/smarter about those sorts of social expectations.</p>
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