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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/10/21/toy-guns-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-18607</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy:

Why weren&#039;t these incidents reported in some fashion at a regularly scheduled Principal&#039;s Meeting?

The no gun / no toy policy could have then been reviewed in an assembly at my child&#039;s school.

This lack of communication is a huge issue. When you have good school districts, there is a general degree of knowledge of trends so they do not become issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy:</p>
<p>Why weren&#8217;t these incidents reported in some fashion at a regularly scheduled Principal&#8217;s Meeting?</p>
<p>The no gun / no toy policy could have then been reviewed in an assembly at my child&#8217;s school.</p>
<p>This lack of communication is a huge issue. When you have good school districts, there is a general degree of knowledge of trends so they do not become issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can send it to me, at kmurphy@bayareanewsgroup.com.

For future reference -- with more notice before an event (preferably two weeks, at least), you can submit information to our community calendar editor at tribcal@oaklandtribune.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can send it to me, at <a href="mailto:kmurphy@bayareanewsgroup.com">kmurphy@bayareanewsgroup.com</a>.</p>
<p>For future reference &#8212; with more notice before an event (preferably two weeks, at least), you can submit information to our community calendar editor at <a href="mailto:tribcal@oaklandtribune.com">tribcal@oaklandtribune.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electronic (computers &amp; peripherals) waste collection event:

Please spread the word, come and support Bret Harte Middle School for this special event (SLWRP) this Saturday, October 25th (9 to 4). Thank you.

Andrew McMaster, Pres. BHMS Student Recycling Committee (RARU);  V. Taylor, Faculty Advisor

P.S. Where can I email a flier?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electronic (computers &amp; peripherals) waste collection event:</p>
<p>Please spread the word, come and support Bret Harte Middle School for this special event (SLWRP) this Saturday, October 25th (9 to 4). Thank you.</p>
<p>Andrew McMaster, Pres. BHMS Student Recycling Committee (RARU);  V. Taylor, Faculty Advisor</p>
<p>P.S. Where can I email a flier?</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/10/21/toy-guns-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-18603</link>
		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guns aren&#039;t toys, neither are table saws.

Of particular concern are toy guns the look like real weapons. Brandishing one can get a child shot in this day.

It would be best if suitable children were given gun training. Especially the girls. These kids will likely need gun skills in their lifetimes. I was shooting bottles of a log at Russian River when I was 5 - using rifles and handguns. We kept guns in the house for self defense throughout my childhood. I have a handgun and carry permit as an adult.

So I know what damage a gun could do. In the &#039;60s I remember my father being called out at night to repair gunshot injuries from parties. I never got to go to those parties. Never got to do target practice parties. It would have been fun. They had a lot of fun in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s in Oakland. I understand that some of the target shooting parties were at nightclubs on Telegraph. I wasn&#039;t allowed to go to the nightclubs either.

But we all had motorcycles, and those weren&#039;t safe either. Don&#039;t have a cycle now, but I&#039;m glad I learned to ride one as a teen. Still have the cycle endorsement on the license. I used to take a cycle to high school - along with friends.

My point is guns don&#039;t kill people, nutty people who probably can&#039;t legally touch a gun anyway kill people. Armed people can save themselves from victimization.

Teens shouldn&#039;t have guns in public (that means school also) when not on a gun range and supervised by a rangemaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns aren&#8217;t toys, neither are table saws.</p>
<p>Of particular concern are toy guns the look like real weapons. Brandishing one can get a child shot in this day.</p>
<p>It would be best if suitable children were given gun training. Especially the girls. These kids will likely need gun skills in their lifetimes. I was shooting bottles of a log at Russian River when I was 5 &#8211; using rifles and handguns. We kept guns in the house for self defense throughout my childhood. I have a handgun and carry permit as an adult.</p>
<p>So I know what damage a gun could do. In the &#8217;60s I remember my father being called out at night to repair gunshot injuries from parties. I never got to go to those parties. Never got to do target practice parties. It would have been fun. They had a lot of fun in the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s in Oakland. I understand that some of the target shooting parties were at nightclubs on Telegraph. I wasn&#8217;t allowed to go to the nightclubs either.</p>
<p>But we all had motorcycles, and those weren&#8217;t safe either. Don&#8217;t have a cycle now, but I&#8217;m glad I learned to ride one as a teen. Still have the cycle endorsement on the license. I used to take a cycle to high school &#8211; along with friends.</p>
<p>My point is guns don&#8217;t kill people, nutty people who probably can&#8217;t legally touch a gun anyway kill people. Armed people can save themselves from victimization.</p>
<p>Teens shouldn&#8217;t have guns in public (that means school also) when not on a gun range and supervised by a rangemaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are parents thinking? Why aren&#039;t parents monitoring what their children bring to school?

Hell, we&#039;re having trouble with the marshmallow shooter my daughter wants for her birthday because of the &quot;gun&quot; implications.

I know there are responsible people who give toy guns to their children for gifts, but there needs to be more parental oversight of children who are given these kinds of &quot;toys.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are parents thinking? Why aren&#8217;t parents monitoring what their children bring to school?</p>
<p>Hell, we&#8217;re having trouble with the marshmallow shooter my daughter wants for her birthday because of the &#8220;gun&#8221; implications.</p>
<p>I know there are responsible people who give toy guns to their children for gifts, but there needs to be more parental oversight of children who are given these kinds of &#8220;toys.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the information, BH Parent. Had I known that, I might have chosen a different photo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, BH Parent. Had I known that, I might have chosen a different photo.</p>
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		<title>By: BH parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>BH parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to clarify that the &quot;BB gun&quot; used in the Bret Harte incident was not the kind of gun in the illustration that shoots lead bearings, but a plastic gun that shoots light weight plastic pellets. It could have damaged the boy&#039;s eye had it been directly fired into his open eye at close range. However, it could not cause the kind of severe injury that an actual BB gun can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to clarify that the &#8220;BB gun&#8221; used in the Bret Harte incident was not the kind of gun in the illustration that shoots lead bearings, but a plastic gun that shoots light weight plastic pellets. It could have damaged the boy&#8217;s eye had it been directly fired into his open eye at close range. However, it could not cause the kind of severe injury that an actual BB gun can.</p>
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		<title>By: rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in favor of completely harsh consequences for kids who bring toy weapons to school.  This can&#039;t be tolerated and their parents should suffer some onerous hassle as well.  There should be improved written contracts that detail acceptable/unacceptable behavior and kids and their parents should sign them each school year.  This really bugs me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in favor of completely harsh consequences for kids who bring toy weapons to school.  This can&#8217;t be tolerated and their parents should suffer some onerous hassle as well.  There should be improved written contracts that detail acceptable/unacceptable behavior and kids and their parents should sign them each school year.  This really bugs me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow...  I may become physically ill if I keep thinking about weapons on school grounds.

Way back when I was in school, the janitor/busdriver taught hunter safety every fall.  On Saturdays, on the school grounds.  In November and December, kids bragged about getting their first deer.  I never wanted to hunt, but my sister became a local celebrity at age 12 when she got her first deer before noon on the first day of the season, with one shot &quot;clean through the heart&quot;.

But *NOBODY* would have brought a gun (or any weapon, toy or real) onto school property during the week.  It was unthinkable.

After the janitor/busdriver had kicked the kid out of hunter safety class - permanently (and without that hunter safety certificate, a kid couldn&#039;t get any kind of game tags before 18) - and after the principal had taken the weapon, and paddled the kid, and expelled her/him...

After all that happened at school, the kid&#039;s parents would have had their turn at discipline!

I love living in an urban area for a lot of reasons, but this is city-dwellers behaving like the idiots that country folk think they are.  Nothing else could, but this makes me nostalgic for those (ignorant, bigotted, mean, small-minded, etc.) country folk, who at least understood the risks and power of weapons and the consequences of failure in teaching children safety and respect for life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;  I may become physically ill if I keep thinking about weapons on school grounds.</p>
<p>Way back when I was in school, the janitor/busdriver taught hunter safety every fall.  On Saturdays, on the school grounds.  In November and December, kids bragged about getting their first deer.  I never wanted to hunt, but my sister became a local celebrity at age 12 when she got her first deer before noon on the first day of the season, with one shot &#8220;clean through the heart&#8221;.</p>
<p>But *NOBODY* would have brought a gun (or any weapon, toy or real) onto school property during the week.  It was unthinkable.</p>
<p>After the janitor/busdriver had kicked the kid out of hunter safety class &#8211; permanently (and without that hunter safety certificate, a kid couldn&#8217;t get any kind of game tags before 18) &#8211; and after the principal had taken the weapon, and paddled the kid, and expelled her/him&#8230;</p>
<p>After all that happened at school, the kid&#8217;s parents would have had their turn at discipline!</p>
<p>I love living in an urban area for a lot of reasons, but this is city-dwellers behaving like the idiots that country folk think they are.  Nothing else could, but this makes me nostalgic for those (ignorant, bigotted, mean, small-minded, etc.) country folk, who at least understood the risks and power of weapons and the consequences of failure in teaching children safety and respect for life.</p>
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