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	<title>Comments on: OUSD police chief cusses out Trib videographer</title>
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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/11/04/ousd-police-chief-cusses-out-trib-videographer/comment-page-1/#comment-18830</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So does anyone know why the ex-Stasi who now work at the &quot;terms of use&quot; department for youtube removed this video?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does anyone know why the ex-Stasi who now work at the &#8220;terms of use&#8221; department for youtube removed this video?</p>
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		<title>By: Photorights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photorights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; I wonder if this is the same Oakland cop Art Michel
&gt; dba AMfoto.us who moonlights as a photographer in
&gt; Oakland.

Without a doubt.  Just look at some of his photos, which include a kid in a cop&#039;s hat and an arrest scene, then there&#039;s a video recruiting helicopter pilots for... the Oakland Police.

He was totally out of control in this situation and should have been fired, not resigned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I wonder if this is the same Oakland cop Art Michel<br />
&gt; dba AMfoto.us who moonlights as a photographer in<br />
&gt; Oakland.</p>
<p>Without a doubt.  Just look at some of his photos, which include a kid in a cop&#8217;s hat and an arrest scene, then there&#8217;s a video recruiting helicopter pilots for&#8230; the Oakland Police.</p>
<p>He was totally out of control in this situation and should have been fired, not resigned.</p>
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		<title>By: Oakland Schools Police Chief Outta There &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oakland Schools Police Chief Outta There &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Police Chief      Oakland School District Police Chief Art Michel, who was involved in a nasty confrontation with an Oakland Tribune photojournalist in November, will resign this week. A school district [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Police Chief      Oakland School District Police Chief Art Michel, who was involved in a nasty confrontation with an Oakland Tribune photojournalist in November, will resign this week. A school district [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Turrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Turrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if this is the same Oakland cop Art Michel dba AMfoto.us who moonlights as a photographer in Oakland. That might explain some of the erratic behavior.

Listed below is a link to the domain name registration.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=amfoto.us]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this is the same Oakland cop Art Michel dba AMfoto.us who moonlights as a photographer in Oakland. That might explain some of the erratic behavior.</p>
<p>Listed below is a link to the domain name registration.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=amfoto.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=amfoto.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith Turrill</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/11/04/ousd-police-chief-cusses-out-trib-videographer/comment-page-1/#comment-18826</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Turrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just watched the video of the police abuse at an Oakland school. There is absolutely no excuse for the conduct and in some states that type of police behavior would probably constitute an assault.

I have not been through Oakland in many years but do occasionally travel to California. There is no way that I would tolerate any obnoxious buffoon screaming and swearing at me. And the last time that I was convicted of anything was a speeding ticket in 2000.

Regards,
Keith Turrill
Owner - IowaPix, Inc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the video of the police abuse at an Oakland school. There is absolutely no excuse for the conduct and in some states that type of police behavior would probably constitute an assault.</p>
<p>I have not been through Oakland in many years but do occasionally travel to California. There is no way that I would tolerate any obnoxious buffoon screaming and swearing at me. And the last time that I was convicted of anything was a speeding ticket in 2000.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Keith Turrill<br />
Owner &#8211; IowaPix, Inc</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[News Reporter: I found your post very interesting. because believe me, there are no accidents. The Trib is very much able and willing to do all that you suggested but they didn&#039;t. The obvious answer that comes to mind is that it would not serve their interests to do so. IE - they know something we don&#039;t - which I see a LOT in the legal business. When somebody is not doing what it would seem would be the obvious thing to do, you&#039;d better believe they have a good reason for the way they are acting.

And it is a personnel matter also.

So we go back to my earlier posts about staying out of other people&#039;s business.  It&#039;s fine to support one who is fighting their own fight(especially when asked to), but stay out of other people&#039;s battles - especially when the other people aren&#039;t fighting yet and you just want to start something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News Reporter: I found your post very interesting. because believe me, there are no accidents. The Trib is very much able and willing to do all that you suggested but they didn&#8217;t. The obvious answer that comes to mind is that it would not serve their interests to do so. IE &#8211; they know something we don&#8217;t &#8211; which I see a LOT in the legal business. When somebody is not doing what it would seem would be the obvious thing to do, you&#8217;d better believe they have a good reason for the way they are acting.</p>
<p>And it is a personnel matter also.</p>
<p>So we go back to my earlier posts about staying out of other people&#8217;s business.  It&#8217;s fine to support one who is fighting their own fight(especially when asked to), but stay out of other people&#8217;s battles &#8211; especially when the other people aren&#8217;t fighting yet and you just want to start something.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a bit more disappointing in the Oakland Tribune management than anything else for their apparent delay and hesitancy to stand up and assert themselves as a news organization who won&#039;t let pinheads like Art Michel violate the law and get away with it. I&#039;m glad this editorial is coming out, but it should have been printed last week within days of the incident. The Tribune management needed to stand up and demand that their illegally confiscated news gathering equipment be returned. They should have brought the MediaNews lawyers in immediately, turned this into a front page scoop and demanded answers about why the Oakland Unified School District is allowing their police officers to arrests journalists and illegally seize their equipment. I&#039;m less than impressed by their response to this entire incident, and convinced that this is an opportunity to oust these problem cops who think they&#039;re above the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit more disappointing in the Oakland Tribune management than anything else for their apparent delay and hesitancy to stand up and assert themselves as a news organization who won&#8217;t let pinheads like Art Michel violate the law and get away with it. I&#8217;m glad this editorial is coming out, but it should have been printed last week within days of the incident. The Tribune management needed to stand up and demand that their illegally confiscated news gathering equipment be returned. They should have brought the MediaNews lawyers in immediately, turned this into a front page scoop and demanded answers about why the Oakland Unified School District is allowing their police officers to arrests journalists and illegally seize their equipment. I&#8217;m less than impressed by their response to this entire incident, and convinced that this is an opportunity to oust these problem cops who think they&#8217;re above the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thats &quot;without due process&quot; in para 4, sorry...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats &#8220;without due process&#8221; in para 4, sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plumbguy:  I have seen cops fired on one bad day - just like that - after 20 years at work. I have seen Cops sent to jail. Actually I have seen plenty of Ex-cops... career guys, not just Rookies, fired. I have seen Rookies (less than 2 years service) dismissed because they weren&#039;t &quot;trusted&quot;. (Don&#039;t even get started about women and minorities trying to make it in Police Services...) So I do know that there is discipline in Police Services. If the people were really worried about fidelity in Police Services (they&#039;re not) they would legislate the election of Police Chiefs - as we have with the County Sheriffs. Well nobody is worried except the losers, street people &amp; maybe student types who aren&#039;t housebroken. I&#039;m a homeowner, so are all my friends and relatives. We don&#039;t have problems with police services - we know them. How about you?

Rodney King is not a good case for you to use. As far as I&#039;m concerned, Rodney created all his problems in life and the jury made the right decision in that case. You tend to get beat when you use drugs and run crazy in the streets. It that my problem? No, it&#039;s just another day in the life of a crackhead. I&#039;d have beat him also.

Yes we are going to have a &quot;Police&quot; State. it will be run by Obama and the left wing democrats. They have no intention of having any free speech and they will confiscate our guns, making the population helpless. Or at least they will try. They won&#039;t get mine. And if you think democratic party controlled territories are &quot;free&quot;, talk to Cindy Sheehan about what happened to her when she dared to run against Nancy Pelosi - and by the way, SF hasn&#039;t had an honest election in a LONG time. I believe (with some input from friends who have been involved in politics there) that the ballot boxes are normally stuffed by the machine. The same machine that abhorrs any requirement that voters be identified when they show up and claim they are the person on the rolls and want to cast ballots.

You foolishly assume I &quot;love&quot; cops and think they can do no wrong - or something like that.  You must be young. You assume extremes in a debate. I could fire Michel in an eyeblink. I just won&#039;t let him be railroaded with due process. Even in this public forum. Maybe he goes or maybe not, but that&#039;s after a fair hearing. And I don&#039;t for a minute consider this video dispositive. We have hearings for that and I&#039;d see that he gets one. What&#039;s your excuse here?

If you are worried about a Police State you have a lot more to worry about in CA than whether your local police services are going to harrass you. Most of them (city cops) now go from call to call with little patrol, and you will see the rise of more NOGO areas where they will not even try to control.

Maybe you haven&#039;t lived long enough to have had murdered friends, friends who&#039;ve been carjacked or mugged, friends who&#039;ve been home invaded. Friends and relatives who&#039;ve been killed and crippled by Drunks, friends who&#039;ve been ripped off and attacked by druggies, gangs, etc.  Well I know tons who have - so don&#039;t think you can sell your &quot;I hate the cops, they&#039;re all mean...&quot; here. Grow up and meet the people in your town. Including the cops.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plumbguy:  I have seen cops fired on one bad day &#8211; just like that &#8211; after 20 years at work. I have seen Cops sent to jail. Actually I have seen plenty of Ex-cops&#8230; career guys, not just Rookies, fired. I have seen Rookies (less than 2 years service) dismissed because they weren&#8217;t &#8220;trusted&#8221;. (Don&#8217;t even get started about women and minorities trying to make it in Police Services&#8230;) So I do know that there is discipline in Police Services. If the people were really worried about fidelity in Police Services (they&#8217;re not) they would legislate the election of Police Chiefs &#8211; as we have with the County Sheriffs. Well nobody is worried except the losers, street people &amp; maybe student types who aren&#8217;t housebroken. I&#8217;m a homeowner, so are all my friends and relatives. We don&#8217;t have problems with police services &#8211; we know them. How about you?</p>
<p>Rodney King is not a good case for you to use. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, Rodney created all his problems in life and the jury made the right decision in that case. You tend to get beat when you use drugs and run crazy in the streets. It that my problem? No, it&#8217;s just another day in the life of a crackhead. I&#8217;d have beat him also.</p>
<p>Yes we are going to have a &#8220;Police&#8221; State. it will be run by Obama and the left wing democrats. They have no intention of having any free speech and they will confiscate our guns, making the population helpless. Or at least they will try. They won&#8217;t get mine. And if you think democratic party controlled territories are &#8220;free&#8221;, talk to Cindy Sheehan about what happened to her when she dared to run against Nancy Pelosi &#8211; and by the way, SF hasn&#8217;t had an honest election in a LONG time. I believe (with some input from friends who have been involved in politics there) that the ballot boxes are normally stuffed by the machine. The same machine that abhorrs any requirement that voters be identified when they show up and claim they are the person on the rolls and want to cast ballots.</p>
<p>You foolishly assume I &#8220;love&#8221; cops and think they can do no wrong &#8211; or something like that.  You must be young. You assume extremes in a debate. I could fire Michel in an eyeblink. I just won&#8217;t let him be railroaded with due process. Even in this public forum. Maybe he goes or maybe not, but that&#8217;s after a fair hearing. And I don&#8217;t for a minute consider this video dispositive. We have hearings for that and I&#8217;d see that he gets one. What&#8217;s your excuse here?</p>
<p>If you are worried about a Police State you have a lot more to worry about in CA than whether your local police services are going to harrass you. Most of them (city cops) now go from call to call with little patrol, and you will see the rise of more NOGO areas where they will not even try to control.</p>
<p>Maybe you haven&#8217;t lived long enough to have had murdered friends, friends who&#8217;ve been carjacked or mugged, friends who&#8217;ve been home invaded. Friends and relatives who&#8217;ve been killed and crippled by Drunks, friends who&#8217;ve been ripped off and attacked by druggies, gangs, etc.  Well I know tons who have &#8211; so don&#8217;t think you can sell your &#8220;I hate the cops, they&#8217;re all mean&#8230;&#8221; here. Grow up and meet the people in your town. Including the cops.</p>
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		<title>By: former hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>former hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has this video been sent to any of the television stations?  This might press OUSD to actually take action.I showed this video to my colleagues in another school district and they are amazed that an employee with such rage and poor judgement has remained in his position. Then they remembered that this is OUSD and it made sense.  What does this say?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this video been sent to any of the television stations?  This might press OUSD to actually take action.I showed this video to my colleagues in another school district and they are amazed that an employee with such rage and poor judgement has remained in his position. Then they remembered that this is OUSD and it made sense.  What does this say?</p>
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