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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: Jesse Dutton-Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Dutton-Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I live about 100 feet from Community Day School, maybe a letter should be sent to neighbors too...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I live about 100 feet from Community Day School, maybe a letter should be sent to neighbors too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People have to understand that bad parents and bad family have absolutely no problem providing weapons, drugs and other dangerous instrumentalities to children they know are acutely disturbed. And when things hit the fan, they will look right through you as if there is no reason to blame them for anything. I have first hand experience with families refusing to secure guns with a suicidal adolescent living in the home.

One can say this is evolution in action.

The same process is at work when families, friends and roommates have weapons around their parolee and convicted felon relatives and friends, and don&#039;t ever get it when their homie goes down on a 3rd strike for felon hatching a gun or ammo - as if there is no problem if the gun&#039;s pink slip doesn&#039;t have homie&#039;s name on it (it was around him, he&#039;s guilty of constructive possession).

Some people you just can&#039;t fix. What you can do is keep your kids out of their houses completely and otherwise stay away from from these nutty and irresponsible people. As far as the schools go, you do the best you can to identify these screwed up irresponsible families and provide the surveilance and supervision of the kids that you can. And that&#039;s all you can do. Teachers are NOT miracle workers, they&#039;re just people with a 4 year degree and experience.

I am in favor of gun training - just like driver&#039;s training - for all suitable kids. How much is a management function. But like STD/Herpes/Pregnancy Control, the kids really need to be told what things to look out for and what to do in different circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have to understand that bad parents and bad family have absolutely no problem providing weapons, drugs and other dangerous instrumentalities to children they know are acutely disturbed. And when things hit the fan, they will look right through you as if there is no reason to blame them for anything. I have first hand experience with families refusing to secure guns with a suicidal adolescent living in the home.</p>
<p>One can say this is evolution in action.</p>
<p>The same process is at work when families, friends and roommates have weapons around their parolee and convicted felon relatives and friends, and don&#8217;t ever get it when their homie goes down on a 3rd strike for felon hatching a gun or ammo &#8211; as if there is no problem if the gun&#8217;s pink slip doesn&#8217;t have homie&#8217;s name on it (it was around him, he&#8217;s guilty of constructive possession).</p>
<p>Some people you just can&#8217;t fix. What you can do is keep your kids out of their houses completely and otherwise stay away from from these nutty and irresponsible people. As far as the schools go, you do the best you can to identify these screwed up irresponsible families and provide the surveilance and supervision of the kids that you can. And that&#8217;s all you can do. Teachers are NOT miracle workers, they&#8217;re just people with a 4 year degree and experience.</p>
<p>I am in favor of gun training &#8211; just like driver&#8217;s training &#8211; for all suitable kids. How much is a management function. But like STD/Herpes/Pregnancy Control, the kids really need to be told what things to look out for and what to do in different circumstances.</p>
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