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	<title>Comments on: Hills crowding debate: 20 months and counting</title>
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		<title>By: Your new school board prez - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your new school board prez - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] her high school selection process; accuse a fellow board member of racism; and, most recently, chide parents for taking advantage of the district&#8217;s school choice policies, rather than opting for their [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her high school selection process; accuse a fellow board member of racism; and, most recently, chide parents for taking advantage of the district&#8217;s school choice policies, rather than opting for their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Oakland has five years to get it together &#171; FutureOakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oakland has five years to get it together &#171; FutureOakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] now stocks vintage maternity threads). Enrollment at many elementary schools is rising, leading to fights over placement at high-performing schools. In approximately five years, a critical mass of children will be entering schools and walking or [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now stocks vintage maternity threads). Enrollment at many elementary schools is rising, leading to fights over placement at high-performing schools. In approximately five years, a critical mass of children will be entering schools and walking or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the teachers living on a less than living wage as well as having been socio-economically reduced to the same situation as the families in the less-attractive school boundaries?  I&#039;m with John...moving out asap...my car vandalized to the point I can&#039;t even keep a cheap car stereo, my garage tagged by dumb gang member mentality...a dead dog placed in our garden...etc, etc, etc...Oakland is the dumbest place...why doesn&#039;t the school board adopt a totally mix it up enrollment policy, like an EEO policy based on demography and socio-economics...This whole City is the lousiest place to live and work...under/uneducated and molto ritardando...I wish with the budget crisis they would buy out any higher paid with an early retirement option...You&#039;d never see me again, then I would take my kid to safety in another State!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the teachers living on a less than living wage as well as having been socio-economically reduced to the same situation as the families in the less-attractive school boundaries?  I&#8217;m with John&#8230;moving out asap&#8230;my car vandalized to the point I can&#8217;t even keep a cheap car stereo, my garage tagged by dumb gang member mentality&#8230;a dead dog placed in our garden&#8230;etc, etc, etc&#8230;Oakland is the dumbest place&#8230;why doesn&#8217;t the school board adopt a totally mix it up enrollment policy, like an EEO policy based on demography and socio-economics&#8230;This whole City is the lousiest place to live and work&#8230;under/uneducated and molto ritardando&#8230;I wish with the budget crisis they would buy out any higher paid with an early retirement option&#8230;You&#8217;d never see me again, then I would take my kid to safety in another State!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: aly</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2008/12/17/hills-crowding-debate-20-months-and-counting/comment-page-1/#comment-19217</link>
		<dc:creator>aly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[long distance chabot parent: your thoughts are beautifully laid out and i don&#039;t think anyone in their right mind could argue with your desire to give your children the best. i am just sad that your neighborhood schools are not able to do that because it means so many children are missing out.

the problem with all of these debates is that they make the school district responsible for enormous social problems. it isn&#039;t as if there aren&#039;t good teachers with dedication in the lower-performing schools; the problem is often with the poverty, lack of education, and lack of access at home. by asking the parents who happen to live in less active, concerned neighborhoods to keep their child there rather than take them to school where they can be part of a community that raises the child seems unjust to the child. you can&#039;t punish them for the apathy of their neighbors.

i believe that if we as a district spent more REAL time and effort getting families involved, making them feel comfortable and invested in school (which may mean events outside of the school&#039;s walls in many cases), and helping them with obtaining necessary resources, then the neighborhood schools could have a chance at improving. maybe if you could show the parents who are choosing to go somewhere else that change is being attempted they could help lead it. it seems that the elementary schools with take-charge principals who have been relentless about community organization have been successful (sankofa, la escuelita are the first that come to mind as having made tremendous gains in climate, success, and community in recent years).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>long distance chabot parent: your thoughts are beautifully laid out and i don&#8217;t think anyone in their right mind could argue with your desire to give your children the best. i am just sad that your neighborhood schools are not able to do that because it means so many children are missing out.</p>
<p>the problem with all of these debates is that they make the school district responsible for enormous social problems. it isn&#8217;t as if there aren&#8217;t good teachers with dedication in the lower-performing schools; the problem is often with the poverty, lack of education, and lack of access at home. by asking the parents who happen to live in less active, concerned neighborhoods to keep their child there rather than take them to school where they can be part of a community that raises the child seems unjust to the child. you can&#8217;t punish them for the apathy of their neighbors.</p>
<p>i believe that if we as a district spent more REAL time and effort getting families involved, making them feel comfortable and invested in school (which may mean events outside of the school&#8217;s walls in many cases), and helping them with obtaining necessary resources, then the neighborhood schools could have a chance at improving. maybe if you could show the parents who are choosing to go somewhere else that change is being attempted they could help lead it. it seems that the elementary schools with take-charge principals who have been relentless about community organization have been successful (sankofa, la escuelita are the first that come to mind as having made tremendous gains in climate, success, and community in recent years).</p>
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		<title>By: skyline parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>skyline parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Oakland experience has not been the negative one described by the above poster. I moved here 24 years ago and have never been the victim of any type of crime. I have lived mainly in East Oakland (near Mills college) and in the Redwood Heights areas. My kids went through OUSD and have done very well in all regards. The oldest got a full scholarship to a prestigious college after graduating Skyline (taking many AP classes) and was accepted to both Cal and UCLA as well as numerous other schools. The youngest now attends Skyline and is doing well, and I am hopeful for a similar outcome.

I have mixed feelings about the current school choice option, and sent my kids to their neighborhood schools, but the schools were decent (I guess some  disagreed and voted with their feet). There is a history of parents organizing and &quot;reclaiming&quot; neighborhood schools that had been opted out of for periods of time, from Grass Valley to Brett Harte to Claremont to Edna Brewer, resulting in much greater success overall for all attending students. I always really admired the parents who spearheaded those efforts. While I did not hear Ms Spearman&#039;s comments, I assume she also believes that if families stayed with their neighborhood schools, they too, could see remarkable improvement.

On a last note, thank you Kerry Hamill for the ethical and humanistic way you served OUSD on the board during one of its worst periods. I know that you sent your kids to their neighborhood schools and helped to support them on a smaller scale as well. I felt your perspective was enhanced by actually having kids in the district and it was much appreciated by many of us not in North Oakland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Oakland experience has not been the negative one described by the above poster. I moved here 24 years ago and have never been the victim of any type of crime. I have lived mainly in East Oakland (near Mills college) and in the Redwood Heights areas. My kids went through OUSD and have done very well in all regards. The oldest got a full scholarship to a prestigious college after graduating Skyline (taking many AP classes) and was accepted to both Cal and UCLA as well as numerous other schools. The youngest now attends Skyline and is doing well, and I am hopeful for a similar outcome.</p>
<p>I have mixed feelings about the current school choice option, and sent my kids to their neighborhood schools, but the schools were decent (I guess some  disagreed and voted with their feet). There is a history of parents organizing and &#8220;reclaiming&#8221; neighborhood schools that had been opted out of for periods of time, from Grass Valley to Brett Harte to Claremont to Edna Brewer, resulting in much greater success overall for all attending students. I always really admired the parents who spearheaded those efforts. While I did not hear Ms Spearman&#8217;s comments, I assume she also believes that if families stayed with their neighborhood schools, they too, could see remarkable improvement.</p>
<p>On a last note, thank you Kerry Hamill for the ethical and humanistic way you served OUSD on the board during one of its worst periods. I know that you sent your kids to their neighborhood schools and helped to support them on a smaller scale as well. I felt your perspective was enhanced by actually having kids in the district and it was much appreciated by many of us not in North Oakland.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the comments of someone who works locally but felt overwhelmingly impelled to leave Oakland:

&quot;It would mean driving over the Richmond Bridge to work, spending untold hours in traffic. For me to give up a walker&#039;s manna to commute 40 miles a day spewing exhaust and wasting money on fuel and tolls was ludicrous.

But that&#039;s how bad it is in Oakland. It was easy for me to pick up and move, but what about young families who have kids in school, whose mortgages are tanking? Trapped.&quot;

Read the full story here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/07/INDF14G3QD.DTL

Condolences offered here to &quot;young Oakland families&quot; trying to acquire a quality education for their children and having to endure, among other things, the tortures of schoolboarding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the comments of someone who works locally but felt overwhelmingly impelled to leave Oakland:</p>
<p>&#8220;It would mean driving over the Richmond Bridge to work, spending untold hours in traffic. For me to give up a walker&#8217;s manna to commute 40 miles a day spewing exhaust and wasting money on fuel and tolls was ludicrous.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s how bad it is in Oakland. It was easy for me to pick up and move, but what about young families who have kids in school, whose mortgages are tanking? Trapped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read the full story here: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/07/INDF14G3QD.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/07/INDF14G3QD.DTL</a></p>
<p>Condolences offered here to &#8220;young Oakland families&#8221; trying to acquire a quality education for their children and having to endure, among other things, the tortures of schoolboarding.</p>
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		<title>By: Hills Neighborhood Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hills Neighborhood Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The school board, once again, passed the buck and failed to make a tough decision. Where is the backbone of the board? They need to FIX this problem. They should have done so by either strinking the boundaries and/or making Hillcrest a K-5.

I wasn&#039;t at the meeting, but the Spearman comment sounded inappropriate. If you allow for an option program, do not criticize those who make the effort to find a better school. Let&#039;s face it - there are only a handful of great schools and dozens of bad ones. I would do everything I could do LEGALLY to access a better education for my children and kudos to those who are persistent and lucky enough to land a spot at a good school. [As a side note, I hope you volunteer your time and/or donate money to help keep the school performing at a high level... think of this as a way of giving back for your good fortune.]

As for Gary Yee, in my experience he is NOT pro-neighborhood schools. In nearly every case in Oakland where there are high-performing elementary schools, it is because of the strength of the neighborhood families. Without the support of the neighborhood, it seems near impossible to a school to be high-performing. The exception would be Kaiser (this school seems to attract committed families across Oakland) and, in other communities, magnet schools (again, this would attract a certain type of student and family).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school board, once again, passed the buck and failed to make a tough decision. Where is the backbone of the board? They need to FIX this problem. They should have done so by either strinking the boundaries and/or making Hillcrest a K-5.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t at the meeting, but the Spearman comment sounded inappropriate. If you allow for an option program, do not criticize those who make the effort to find a better school. Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; there are only a handful of great schools and dozens of bad ones. I would do everything I could do LEGALLY to access a better education for my children and kudos to those who are persistent and lucky enough to land a spot at a good school. [As a side note, I hope you volunteer your time and/or donate money to help keep the school performing at a high level... think of this as a way of giving back for your good fortune.]</p>
<p>As for Gary Yee, in my experience he is NOT pro-neighborhood schools. In nearly every case in Oakland where there are high-performing elementary schools, it is because of the strength of the neighborhood families. Without the support of the neighborhood, it seems near impossible to a school to be high-performing. The exception would be Kaiser (this school seems to attract committed families across Oakland) and, in other communities, magnet schools (again, this would attract a certain type of student and family).</p>
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		<title>By: Long distance Chabot parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long distance Chabot parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night Alice Spearman spoke as if she really knew why we chose to apply for the school lottery but does not.  If she did, then she would know that unfortunately there is big difference in our local school and Chabot.  Our family places a high value on academic execellance &amp; diversity; learning and understanding and respecting varying cultures.  Our local school was over 90% one race.  It did not matter if that race was our own; we felt it would be better for our kids to be in a more inclusive environment.

Parent participation, proximity to employment/bart (in the event of emergencies), enrichment programs, etc... were all a part of our decision to drive across town.

The fact of the matter is OUR family feels it was best to try to provide what we felt was best for our children...  Am I wrong for wanting the best educational experience for my kids?  What kind of parent would I be for not trying (choice lottery) to provide the strongest foundation possible???

I think the school board needs to take a hard look at making more schools appealing or they will eventually see the same situation they are experiencing with Claremont (currently several Independent schools [Athenian/Bentley/Prospect Sierra/Santa Domingo]providing shuttle service from Rockridge Bart station to/from their school...stealing Oakland&#039;s best &amp; brightest) at elementary level schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night Alice Spearman spoke as if she really knew why we chose to apply for the school lottery but does not.  If she did, then she would know that unfortunately there is big difference in our local school and Chabot.  Our family places a high value on academic execellance &amp; diversity; learning and understanding and respecting varying cultures.  Our local school was over 90% one race.  It did not matter if that race was our own; we felt it would be better for our kids to be in a more inclusive environment.</p>
<p>Parent participation, proximity to employment/bart (in the event of emergencies), enrichment programs, etc&#8230; were all a part of our decision to drive across town.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is OUR family feels it was best to try to provide what we felt was best for our children&#8230;  Am I wrong for wanting the best educational experience for my kids?  What kind of parent would I be for not trying (choice lottery) to provide the strongest foundation possible???</p>
<p>I think the school board needs to take a hard look at making more schools appealing or they will eventually see the same situation they are experiencing with Claremont (currently several Independent schools [Athenian/Bentley/Prospect Sierra/Santa Domingo]providing shuttle service from Rockridge Bart station to/from their school&#8230;stealing Oakland&#8217;s best &amp; brightest) at elementary level schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Involved Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Involved Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The solution does nothing but move the issue to another time and hopefully provides additional capacity to Montclair. But how will that work if the boundaries remain the same? Kaiser does not appear to be a viable option for many Hillcrest parents. This is not over, just over for now.

And the Spearman smack-down was particularly nasty and uncomfortable. Rather than singling out parents who care enough to show up and let their voices be heard, she (and all other BOE members), should use the opportunity to learn more about the issues they see in their local schools and use that insight to make the changes they need to make in order to improve them. But regardless of all that, it&#039;s NOT OK for a public official to berate any community member who actually takes the time to be informed and speak up, regardless of the school or district they represent. Good grief!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution does nothing but move the issue to another time and hopefully provides additional capacity to Montclair. But how will that work if the boundaries remain the same? Kaiser does not appear to be a viable option for many Hillcrest parents. This is not over, just over for now.</p>
<p>And the Spearman smack-down was particularly nasty and uncomfortable. Rather than singling out parents who care enough to show up and let their voices be heard, she (and all other BOE members), should use the opportunity to learn more about the issues they see in their local schools and use that insight to make the changes they need to make in order to improve them. But regardless of all that, it&#8217;s NOT OK for a public official to berate any community member who actually takes the time to be informed and speak up, regardless of the school or district they represent. Good grief!</p>
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		<title>By: former hills parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>former hills parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Redwood Heights was experiencing problems with overcrowding and non-neighborhood children bumping neighborhood children from the school, Gary Yee did not support clamping down on falsification of addresses to insure that neighborhood children received priority placement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Redwood Heights was experiencing problems with overcrowding and non-neighborhood children bumping neighborhood children from the school, Gary Yee did not support clamping down on falsification of addresses to insure that neighborhood children received priority placement.</p>
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