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	<title>Comments on: A memo, and more details, from Skyline principal</title>
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		<title>By: Another year, another Skyline principal search - The Education Report - Reporter Katy Murphy&#8217;s blog on Oakland schools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another year, another Skyline principal search - The Education Report - Reporter Katy Murphy&#8217;s blog on Oakland schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Skyline parents, teachers and neighbors did not convince the Oakland school board to rescind the dismissal of Al Sye from Skyline High [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Skyline parents, teachers and neighbors did not convince the Oakland school board to rescind the dismissal of Al Sye from Skyline High [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Standing by their principals (or not, on principle) - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Standing by their principals (or not, on principle) - The Education Report - Katy Murphy covers what&#8217;s going on in the Oakland schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] teachers, neighbors, and even City Councilwoman Desley Brooks &#8212; urged the board to keep Al Sye, the popular new Skyline High School principal who received a layoff notice this month after an [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] teachers, neighbors, and even City Councilwoman Desley Brooks &#8212; urged the board to keep Al Sye, the popular new Skyline High School principal who received a layoff notice this month after an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Skyline Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Skyline Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I have yet to experience a great conversation with Principal Sye, I find that he has done no trouble to our school and is someone to be respected.
I am disgusted that his personal response to his leave was able to get to the Tribune-and that it was used against him.
Not only does this not help parents or inform readers, but it causes harm to the administration and students of Skyline High School.
All rumors are being looked at closely, and eventually a professional decision will be made, that is when the news should inform, if ever-not before anything has been thoroughly investigated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I have yet to experience a great conversation with Principal Sye, I find that he has done no trouble to our school and is someone to be respected.<br />
I am disgusted that his personal response to his leave was able to get to the Tribune-and that it was used against him.<br />
Not only does this not help parents or inform readers, but it causes harm to the administration and students of Skyline High School.<br />
All rumors are being looked at closely, and eventually a professional decision will be made, that is when the news should inform, if ever-not before anything has been thoroughly investigated.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point. There is an issue of whose watch problems occurred on.

As far as Obama and the economy... fasten your seatbelts, it is going to be historic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. There is an issue of whose watch problems occurred on.</p>
<p>As far as Obama and the economy&#8230; fasten your seatbelts, it is going to be historic!</p>
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		<title>By: A skyliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>A skyliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buck stops here is a fine principle, and I agree. However, when posters are defending a guy who has been on the job for a few months based on the success of a performing arts program that has been built over decades, or attacking him based on the old campus plant not having proper air conditioning, I think you&#039;re stretching the case.

It&#039;d be like blaming Obama for the state of the economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck stops here is a fine principle, and I agree. However, when posters are defending a guy who has been on the job for a few months based on the success of a performing arts program that has been built over decades, or attacking him based on the old campus plant not having proper air conditioning, I think you&#8217;re stretching the case.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be like blaming Obama for the state of the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Skyliner:  Good luck to Mr. Sye.

But your are dead wrong about &quot;absurd&quot;. It&#039;s called accountability, as in you are accountable for what happens on your watch when you are in authority. This concept is no longer taught in our public schools but it tends to be true.  Unless you are getting a federal bailout in which case anything goes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Skyliner:  Good luck to Mr. Sye.</p>
<p>But your are dead wrong about &#8220;absurd&#8221;. It&#8217;s called accountability, as in you are accountable for what happens on your watch when you are in authority. This concept is no longer taught in our public schools but it tends to be true.  Unless you are getting a federal bailout in which case anything goes.</p>
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		<title>By: A skyliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>A skyliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;wrong or RIGHT on campus&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;wrong or RIGHT on campus&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: A skyliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>A skyliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Sye is back. He admitted to teachers yesterday at a staff meeting he was suspended for two weeks and says he feels unfairly judged by his supervisor, who he believes was unhappy she was not involved in his hiring. Mr. Sye said he will fight to stay at Skyline, despite this year not going according to plan, that he loves Oakland and the school, and he has &quot;unfinished business here.&quot;

Generally, the teachers seem pretty supportive of him -- in particular, the veteran department chairs who work with him more directly. The staff politely applauded his speech, with some being particularly enthusiastic and others more simply acting polite. Some respected vets are organizing a show of support for his rehire at the next school board meeting.

People need to remember the scale of this school -- 2000 students, 200 employees, thousands of parents. The principal is like the mayor of a small town. To blame or credit him for everything that goes wrong or wrong on campus is a bit absurd, despite the power and importance of the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Sye is back. He admitted to teachers yesterday at a staff meeting he was suspended for two weeks and says he feels unfairly judged by his supervisor, who he believes was unhappy she was not involved in his hiring. Mr. Sye said he will fight to stay at Skyline, despite this year not going according to plan, that he loves Oakland and the school, and he has &#8220;unfinished business here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Generally, the teachers seem pretty supportive of him &#8212; in particular, the veteran department chairs who work with him more directly. The staff politely applauded his speech, with some being particularly enthusiastic and others more simply acting polite. Some respected vets are organizing a show of support for his rehire at the next school board meeting.</p>
<p>People need to remember the scale of this school &#8212; 2000 students, 200 employees, thousands of parents. The principal is like the mayor of a small town. To blame or credit him for everything that goes wrong or wrong on campus is a bit absurd, despite the power and importance of the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paperbackwriter:  Very interesting post.

Most important is your comment about a person &quot;testing the system&quot;.  I find the stories of life on campus with the principal interesting, maybe less so than the detractors find it. But your apprasial of the credit card thing is right on the money. What children don&#039;t understand and can&#039;t grasp is that fidelity is demonstrated and tested by the &quot;little things&quot;. You either have it or your don&#039;t. And if you don&#039;t, no amount of lipstick on the pig can redress that issue. The minute there is a doubt about the fidelity of an employee they are out the door especially in a depression. You do not retain anyone you have a basic mistrust about on these levels, you are not paying good money to have to wonder what a servant will do when your back is turned.

The issues about how a principal handles an urban high school campus are interesting but when the doors are closed to the personnel hearing the real issue is dismissal is required if there is a doubt about fidelity. Let that be the lesson for the children today.

When teens do things in their personal life such as associate with thieves, drug users and promiscuous people (much less do it themselves) their own fidelity is now in question and they have taken that step to day laborer - being able to only find work in highly supervised, transient employment with no creativity, responsibility or benefits. I am seeing more and more people who not only are hot in CheckSystems and unable to get a bank account, but are also carried on black lists used for employment screening and are barred from whole industries (like retail sales and utility companies). Driver&#039;s Licenses are also being lost long term because of one incident (caught with a can of beer at Taco Bell at age 20) that is in the computer and acts as a block. The principal and his credit card &quot;mixup&quot; is just one example of how an incident can affect employment and employability. Saying it was an accident doesn&#039;t cut it with society. We are not paying that kind of money for accident-prone people.

The usual line of baloney these &quot;victims of circumstances&quot; tell is that they were only &quot;with someone&quot; and &quot;didn&#039;t do anything&quot;. It doesn&#039;t matter.

Life will not be very forgiving in a depression in the computer age.

Brave New World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paperbackwriter:  Very interesting post.</p>
<p>Most important is your comment about a person &#8220;testing the system&#8221;.  I find the stories of life on campus with the principal interesting, maybe less so than the detractors find it. But your apprasial of the credit card thing is right on the money. What children don&#8217;t understand and can&#8217;t grasp is that fidelity is demonstrated and tested by the &#8220;little things&#8221;. You either have it or your don&#8217;t. And if you don&#8217;t, no amount of lipstick on the pig can redress that issue. The minute there is a doubt about the fidelity of an employee they are out the door especially in a depression. You do not retain anyone you have a basic mistrust about on these levels, you are not paying good money to have to wonder what a servant will do when your back is turned.</p>
<p>The issues about how a principal handles an urban high school campus are interesting but when the doors are closed to the personnel hearing the real issue is dismissal is required if there is a doubt about fidelity. Let that be the lesson for the children today.</p>
<p>When teens do things in their personal life such as associate with thieves, drug users and promiscuous people (much less do it themselves) their own fidelity is now in question and they have taken that step to day laborer &#8211; being able to only find work in highly supervised, transient employment with no creativity, responsibility or benefits. I am seeing more and more people who not only are hot in CheckSystems and unable to get a bank account, but are also carried on black lists used for employment screening and are barred from whole industries (like retail sales and utility companies). Driver&#8217;s Licenses are also being lost long term because of one incident (caught with a can of beer at Taco Bell at age 20) that is in the computer and acts as a block. The principal and his credit card &#8220;mixup&#8221; is just one example of how an incident can affect employment and employability. Saying it was an accident doesn&#8217;t cut it with society. We are not paying that kind of money for accident-prone people.</p>
<p>The usual line of baloney these &#8220;victims of circumstances&#8221; tell is that they were only &#8220;with someone&#8221; and &#8220;didn&#8217;t do anything&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Life will not be very forgiving in a depression in the computer age.</p>
<p>Brave New World.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is so wrong with the word &quot;Ghetto&quot; even if it was used among adults or others for that matter?  It would be the context of the entire communication.  Again, Oakland is the 5th most dangerous place in the USA, and it shouldn&#039;t be any surprise to anyone that such violence has seemed into the schools.  The word &quot;Ghetto&quot; was probably used to describe a broader idea.  The people in this City are so quick to jump someone.  The term Ghetto has its roots with Jews in Italy, and then with Irish and Poles who were pushed into certain areas based on questionable mores.  What is wrong with getting someone to reflect on how others are affected as a result of their own mores?  I think how this was all handled is comparable to some gang banger, street-thug scapegoat behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so wrong with the word &#8220;Ghetto&#8221; even if it was used among adults or others for that matter?  It would be the context of the entire communication.  Again, Oakland is the 5th most dangerous place in the USA, and it shouldn&#8217;t be any surprise to anyone that such violence has seemed into the schools.  The word &#8220;Ghetto&#8221; was probably used to describe a broader idea.  The people in this City are so quick to jump someone.  The term Ghetto has its roots with Jews in Italy, and then with Irish and Poles who were pushed into certain areas based on questionable mores.  What is wrong with getting someone to reflect on how others are affected as a result of their own mores?  I think how this was all handled is comparable to some gang banger, street-thug scapegoat behavior.</p>
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