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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21651</link>
		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles:

Can you tell us something about yourself?  Education, occupation, age, race, anything??

Can you re-write that post above so we can understand what you are trying to say??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles:</p>
<p>Can you tell us something about yourself?  Education, occupation, age, race, anything??</p>
<p>Can you re-write that post above so we can understand what you are trying to say??</p>
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		<title>By: Charles, The Original</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21650</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles, The Original</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the words of Leland Mississippi Alderwoman Marla Brooks, We are not going anywhere.  We are not going anywhere.  Stop!  Stop!  We are not going anywhere.  Leave us alone.  Leave us alone.  We haven’t done anything wrong…  They are doing us wrong.  There is a bunch of racist evil black integrationist Niggers up in here that’s doing us wrong.

I can’t speak for Hispanics.  But if I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times.  Low graduation rates among Negroes have nothing to do with the absence of married mothers and fathers in the home.  But here is the thing.  Negro males and Negroes in general aren’t integrationist.  And the low graduation rates among Negro children are a clear and present rejection of that philosophy.  Let’s be real.  The so-called educated integrationists Negroes don’t represent the interest of the masses of Negroes i.e. the children of a Negro mother and Negro father etc.  They represent the interest of mongrels, the children of a white mother and a black father etc.  And the educational system gives credence to that philosophy.

The dirty little secret in the United States among the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and their collaborators has been exposed.   Under the guise of indiscriminate love for everyone, they seek to annihilate the “ugly” black faces of the original Negro in the United States via education, interracial marriage/sex, and outright genocide.   And it’s promoted by fostering institutional advantages to black mongrels etc. thereby encouraging the original Negro to loathe his physical appearance e.g. Michael Jackson.  History shows us how the original black Egyptians were annihilated because of their failure to reject a similar educational system.  It was used by internal and external enemies of Egypt to transform original black Egyptians into mongrel Egyptians.

Using low graduation rates as the evidence, the original Negro males in the United States absolutely reject the leadership of the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and the enemy educational system they impose upon their families.  But all is not lost.   What a fantastic job our first “black” educated integrationist President of the United States, Barack Obama and Harvard University Professor Henry Louis Gates are doing with their children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of Leland Mississippi Alderwoman Marla Brooks, We are not going anywhere.  We are not going anywhere.  Stop!  Stop!  We are not going anywhere.  Leave us alone.  Leave us alone.  We haven’t done anything wrong…  They are doing us wrong.  There is a bunch of racist evil black integrationist Niggers up in here that’s doing us wrong.</p>
<p>I can’t speak for Hispanics.  But if I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times.  Low graduation rates among Negroes have nothing to do with the absence of married mothers and fathers in the home.  But here is the thing.  Negro males and Negroes in general aren’t integrationist.  And the low graduation rates among Negro children are a clear and present rejection of that philosophy.  Let’s be real.  The so-called educated integrationists Negroes don’t represent the interest of the masses of Negroes i.e. the children of a Negro mother and Negro father etc.  They represent the interest of mongrels, the children of a white mother and a black father etc.  And the educational system gives credence to that philosophy.</p>
<p>The dirty little secret in the United States among the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and their collaborators has been exposed.   Under the guise of indiscriminate love for everyone, they seek to annihilate the “ugly” black faces of the original Negro in the United States via education, interracial marriage/sex, and outright genocide.   And it’s promoted by fostering institutional advantages to black mongrels etc. thereby encouraging the original Negro to loathe his physical appearance e.g. Michael Jackson.  History shows us how the original black Egyptians were annihilated because of their failure to reject a similar educational system.  It was used by internal and external enemies of Egypt to transform original black Egyptians into mongrel Egyptians.</p>
<p>Using low graduation rates as the evidence, the original Negro males in the United States absolutely reject the leadership of the so-called educated integrationist Negroes and the enemy educational system they impose upon their families.  But all is not lost.   What a fantastic job our first “black” educated integrationist President of the United States, Barack Obama and Harvard University Professor Henry Louis Gates are doing with their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21649</link>
		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oakland Teacher:  The problem here is that these are the President&#039;s kids on a state visit.  The issue would be different if they were not. This action politicizes the kids - and the particular stunt involved used a symbol that has extraordinary negative meaning to the armed forces and their families as well as the people who fought and died in the VietNam War. There is a price to pay for draping that image on a child who has to live a public life. &quot;Rights&quot; are not the point. Choices are more like it.

I voted against Obama for many reasons not because I thought the McCain Palin ticket was so great. This kind of judgment is just a taste of what is to come. I really do wish them well, particularly the family. I am sure that this is not going to end well. I really don&#039;t want things to progress to the point that the country is wishing we had George W back - it&#039;s what I expect to see happen and that is bad.

Along the way I expect his credibility and saleability to go in the toilet, and failure to keep the support and respect of the people generally is how that starts. This stunt goes to war with sections of the population in return for nothing but smirks from the rad-libs who themselves flaunted that symbol in public when others lost everything on orders of congress and the executive.

When times are expected to get tough you keep all the support and assets you have against dire need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oakland Teacher:  The problem here is that these are the President&#8217;s kids on a state visit.  The issue would be different if they were not. This action politicizes the kids &#8211; and the particular stunt involved used a symbol that has extraordinary negative meaning to the armed forces and their families as well as the people who fought and died in the VietNam War. There is a price to pay for draping that image on a child who has to live a public life. &#8220;Rights&#8221; are not the point. Choices are more like it.</p>
<p>I voted against Obama for many reasons not because I thought the McCain Palin ticket was so great. This kind of judgment is just a taste of what is to come. I really do wish them well, particularly the family. I am sure that this is not going to end well. I really don&#8217;t want things to progress to the point that the country is wishing we had George W back &#8211; it&#8217;s what I expect to see happen and that is bad.</p>
<p>Along the way I expect his credibility and saleability to go in the toilet, and failure to keep the support and respect of the people generally is how that starts. This stunt goes to war with sections of the population in return for nothing but smirks from the rad-libs who themselves flaunted that symbol in public when others lost everything on orders of congress and the executive.</p>
<p>When times are expected to get tough you keep all the support and assets you have against dire need.</p>
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		<title>By: Oakland Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oakland Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I probably would have intervened on the peace symbol shirt (too fearful of others&#039; opinions), it actually demos parents who are letting their kids just be kids, and not politicizing everything they do. I have 2 teenage daughters, and right now the biggest fashion trend is peace signs on everything from scarves to shirts. And not just the standard big sign on a shirt front, but the fabric is tiny little peace signs intertwined, woven, etc... I can guarantee you that on any girl between age 6-16, it is a fashion statement, not a political one. The best thing we can do for the children of politicians/celebrities is to not scrutinize everything they do and just let them be kids like their peers. They actually still have the right to do that, regardless of who their parents are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I probably would have intervened on the peace symbol shirt (too fearful of others&#8217; opinions), it actually demos parents who are letting their kids just be kids, and not politicizing everything they do. I have 2 teenage daughters, and right now the biggest fashion trend is peace signs on everything from scarves to shirts. And not just the standard big sign on a shirt front, but the fabric is tiny little peace signs intertwined, woven, etc&#8230; I can guarantee you that on any girl between age 6-16, it is a fashion statement, not a political one. The best thing we can do for the children of politicians/celebrities is to not scrutinize everything they do and just let them be kids like their peers. They actually still have the right to do that, regardless of who their parents are.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21647</link>
		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harlemmoom:  You surprise me.  By now you are well versed on my views about children sounding off in public. You may not agree with me but you can&#039;t be surprised of my position and it&#039;s basis.

Political activity by kids come with a price. That girl is playing on a larger stage. Her parents, by allowing this, are playing her in a way that costs. There are reasons why previous presidential minors were strongly kept out of partisan signboarding. For you to say that a T-Shirt does not a polital statement make is just childish and that is the problem here, short sighted thinking typical of young people.  Maybe you are young. I don&#039;t know.

Of course teens have political thought, that&#039;s not the point. Explaining Time and Place issues to children and adults thinking like children is hard because we have that &quot;deferred gratification&quot; problem which is a big problem with urban blacks (as in getting them killed). One would expect those kids to be brought up to know that you select your battles and your time before putting yourself out..  They are not old enough, educated enough and experienced enough to get a clue of what effects they are having on other people. They world is not made up of people who owe you although thanks to the rock-star treatment the family has received in the last 6 months or so it seems that way. The adults are players, the kids should be kids for awhile longer and cool it with the public displays of this sort. They are not any kids anymore they are the First Family and are expected to represent the larger nation on a state visit not the rad-libs within the democratic party. They don&#039;t even get that.

Anyway I&#039;m just one voice here. Time will tell. I feel this is a bad sign and a mistake for the kids although it probably felt great and got them more love from their partisians.  They would do well to reach beyond those partisans.

And it will be fun to see what the kids do next for an encore. Bigger and Better next time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlemmoom:  You surprise me.  By now you are well versed on my views about children sounding off in public. You may not agree with me but you can&#8217;t be surprised of my position and it&#8217;s basis.</p>
<p>Political activity by kids come with a price. That girl is playing on a larger stage. Her parents, by allowing this, are playing her in a way that costs. There are reasons why previous presidential minors were strongly kept out of partisan signboarding. For you to say that a T-Shirt does not a polital statement make is just childish and that is the problem here, short sighted thinking typical of young people.  Maybe you are young. I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Of course teens have political thought, that&#8217;s not the point. Explaining Time and Place issues to children and adults thinking like children is hard because we have that &#8220;deferred gratification&#8221; problem which is a big problem with urban blacks (as in getting them killed). One would expect those kids to be brought up to know that you select your battles and your time before putting yourself out..  They are not old enough, educated enough and experienced enough to get a clue of what effects they are having on other people. They world is not made up of people who owe you although thanks to the rock-star treatment the family has received in the last 6 months or so it seems that way. The adults are players, the kids should be kids for awhile longer and cool it with the public displays of this sort. They are not any kids anymore they are the First Family and are expected to represent the larger nation on a state visit not the rad-libs within the democratic party. They don&#8217;t even get that.</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m just one voice here. Time will tell. I feel this is a bad sign and a mistake for the kids although it probably felt great and got them more love from their partisians.  They would do well to reach beyond those partisans.</p>
<p>And it will be fun to see what the kids do next for an encore. Bigger and Better next time.</p>
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		<title>By: harlemmoon</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21646</link>
		<dc:creator>harlemmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunny, truth is there are many who can&#039;t see beyond the fields of sports and entertainment. Not that anything is wrong with either. Obama was merely pointing out that we should aspire to other professions as well. No harm there. Just a call to avail ourselves to other options.

Nextset, a T-shirt does not a political statement make. This is one of the more ludicrous arguments that you&#039;ve forwarded. Besides, what&#039;s wrong with, of all the garish T-shirts she cold have worn, one bearing a peace sign? if I were you, I&#039;d be more concerned about those dreaded &quot;Mom jeans&quot; that her dad has been ridiculed about. C&#039;mon, Nextset, I expect better of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, truth is there are many who can&#8217;t see beyond the fields of sports and entertainment. Not that anything is wrong with either. Obama was merely pointing out that we should aspire to other professions as well. No harm there. Just a call to avail ourselves to other options.</p>
<p>Nextset, a T-shirt does not a political statement make. This is one of the more ludicrous arguments that you&#8217;ve forwarded. Besides, what&#8217;s wrong with, of all the garish T-shirts she cold have worn, one bearing a peace sign? if I were you, I&#8217;d be more concerned about those dreaded &#8220;Mom jeans&#8221; that her dad has been ridiculed about. C&#8217;mon, Nextset, I expect better of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2009/07/16/obamas-message-to-black-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-21645</link>
		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ex Oakland Staff: My problem is the child (by wearing that shirt) making political statements on a state visit. There will be a time and place where she can wear a hammer and sickle, a peace sign, a star of david, (or my favorite) a bell curve drawing. That time is much later and that place is not on a state visit with all a state visit connotes.

Additionally, to the extent she is allowed/used to become politicized she gives up her childhood and becomes a fair target for political satire/commentary/attention that no parent needs or wants for their 10 to 18 year old child. In short the whole episode reeks of inexperience and poor judgment on the part of both parents.

Obviously the children of military officers on state visits know a LOT better than to do something like this. The fact that our commander in chief and/or his staff have not had &quot;the talk&quot; with these kids bothers me because I wonder what else the kids are not being prepared for.

And for their own sake I&#039;d like to think the Obama kids are using these fantastic years to keep all doors and options open - as other presidential kids have done - rather than become politicized and partisian during childhood. This is just a mistake. And this crew doesn&#039;t need mistakes - this is a bad time for the USA and things can hit the fan quickly. Up till I saw that photo I was pleased with the way the Obama&#039;s had controlled the family affairs. Now I&#039;m concerned they are taking things for granted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex Oakland Staff: My problem is the child (by wearing that shirt) making political statements on a state visit. There will be a time and place where she can wear a hammer and sickle, a peace sign, a star of david, (or my favorite) a bell curve drawing. That time is much later and that place is not on a state visit with all a state visit connotes.</p>
<p>Additionally, to the extent she is allowed/used to become politicized she gives up her childhood and becomes a fair target for political satire/commentary/attention that no parent needs or wants for their 10 to 18 year old child. In short the whole episode reeks of inexperience and poor judgment on the part of both parents.</p>
<p>Obviously the children of military officers on state visits know a LOT better than to do something like this. The fact that our commander in chief and/or his staff have not had &#8220;the talk&#8221; with these kids bothers me because I wonder what else the kids are not being prepared for.</p>
<p>And for their own sake I&#8217;d like to think the Obama kids are using these fantastic years to keep all doors and options open &#8211; as other presidential kids have done &#8211; rather than become politicized and partisian during childhood. This is just a mistake. And this crew doesn&#8217;t need mistakes &#8211; this is a bad time for the USA and things can hit the fan quickly. Up till I saw that photo I was pleased with the way the Obama&#8217;s had controlled the family affairs. Now I&#8217;m concerned they are taking things for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunny,
Who is the charlatan?

What&#039;s wrong with being a basketballer or a rapper? They are both good careers if you can get them.

I thought Obama gave a good speech with a good message, as a parent.

Turner]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny,<br />
Who is the charlatan?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with being a basketballer or a rapper? They are both good careers if you can get them.</p>
<p>I thought Obama gave a good speech with a good message, as a parent.</p>
<p>Turner</p>
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		<title>By: ex oakland staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex oakland staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nextset,
What is your problem with the peace symbol?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nextset,<br />
What is your problem with the peace symbol?</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This charlatan has a very low opinion of Black youth and Black families if he thinks all they can relate to are cultural dead-enders like basketball players and rap performers. No one needs this weasel to tell people to aspire to things other than that. They already do! He is a most disgusting individual. I am not a parent and I was offended when I heard it. I wonder what people who are parents thought?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This charlatan has a very low opinion of Black youth and Black families if he thinks all they can relate to are cultural dead-enders like basketball players and rap performers. No one needs this weasel to tell people to aspire to things other than that. They already do! He is a most disgusting individual. I am not a parent and I was offended when I heard it. I wonder what people who are parents thought?</p>
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