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	<title>Comments on: The test results are in. How did your school do?</title>
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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: Debora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want to see something absolutely great in OUSD? Look at the scores at Redwood Heights! But first, look at the ethnic mix - then look at the nearly non-existent gap. Then look at the scores.

Great job Redwood Heights community! The results show me that a strategy has been worked out for nearly every group and nearly every child. This is the way a school should treat their students.

Quickest way to view the breakdowns - www.greatschools.net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to see something absolutely great in OUSD? Look at the scores at Redwood Heights! But first, look at the ethnic mix &#8211; then look at the nearly non-existent gap. Then look at the scores.</p>
<p>Great job Redwood Heights community! The results show me that a strategy has been worked out for nearly every group and nearly every child. This is the way a school should treat their students.</p>
<p>Quickest way to view the breakdowns &#8211; <a href="http://www.greatschools.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.greatschools.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tildenparent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tildenparent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the report of test scores in OUSD, the 2nd and 3rd grade students at Tilden Elementary do not exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the report of test scores in OUSD, the 2nd and 3rd grade students at Tilden Elementary do not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Carny Asada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carny Asada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I share NextSet&#039;s concern about whether Oakland schools are serving black students well, I am disturbed by a couple things in the post. First off, why are German Jews in the picture at all? Is NextSet trying to assign some sort of responsibility? Should we also check the number of Scottish Presbyterians and Orthodox Greeks in each school district? What will that prove, besides the fact that Piedmont is whiter than Oakland? Don&#039;t we already know that?

Secondly: Yes, Catholic schools have a history of doing more with less. They also have a history of relying on staff that can work on poverty wages: nuns and priests.

Thirdly: The suggestion that black students need a drill sergeant in the classroom seems ... well, racist. Students of all colors benefit from discipline in the form of consistent application of clearly spelled out rules. This does not mean you have to turn a school into a stockade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I share NextSet&#8217;s concern about whether Oakland schools are serving black students well, I am disturbed by a couple things in the post. First off, why are German Jews in the picture at all? Is NextSet trying to assign some sort of responsibility? Should we also check the number of Scottish Presbyterians and Orthodox Greeks in each school district? What will that prove, besides the fact that Piedmont is whiter than Oakland? Don&#8217;t we already know that?</p>
<p>Secondly: Yes, Catholic schools have a history of doing more with less. They also have a history of relying on staff that can work on poverty wages: nuns and priests.</p>
<p>Thirdly: The suggestion that black students need a drill sergeant in the classroom seems &#8230; well, racist. Students of all colors benefit from discipline in the form of consistent application of clearly spelled out rules. This does not mean you have to turn a school into a stockade.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question. It&#039;s possible, but I haven&#039;t come across anything of that sort this year.

The new API scores and schoolwide rankings are scheduled to come out a week from Wednesday, though. Since those give us a single score for each school (as opposed to a bunch of percentages for each test), it should be easier to sort the data and find what you&#039;re looking for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. It&#8217;s possible, but I haven&#8217;t come across anything of that sort this year.</p>
<p>The new API scores and schoolwide rankings are scheduled to come out a week from Wednesday, though. Since those give us a single score for each school (as opposed to a bunch of percentages for each test), it should be easier to sort the data and find what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: AC Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy:

Has anyone sorted the CST scores, such that one could identify the top scoring schools in the state?  The statewide score source files are rather large, and I was hoping that someone may have already provided that information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy:</p>
<p>Has anyone sorted the CST scores, such that one could identify the top scoring schools in the state?  The statewide score source files are rather large, and I was hoping that someone may have already provided that information.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I guess I&#039;ll suspend my awe. But wait -- you&#039;re a math teacher! Your calculating skills are probably unreasonably high to begin with.

I actually do like math. Maybe what I need is a program like Edusoft. Some reporters didn&#039;t even have EXCEL on their computers until the last year or two, though, so I&#039;m not holding out much hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I guess I&#8217;ll suspend my awe. But wait &#8212; you&#8217;re a math teacher! Your calculating skills are probably unreasonably high to begin with.</p>
<p>I actually do like math. Maybe what I need is a program like Edusoft. Some reporters didn&#8217;t even have EXCEL on their computers until the last year or two, though, so I&#8217;m not holding out much hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Math Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Math Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy,
Don&#039;t be too impressed by the district&#039;s calculating skills.  Edusoft allows teachers and administrators to compare different groups of students by subject/grade/course/year/etc literally with the push of a button.  =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy,<br />
Don&#8217;t be too impressed by the district&#8217;s calculating skills.  Edusoft allows teachers and administrators to compare different groups of students by subject/grade/course/year/etc literally with the push of a button.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy:  I just took a quick look. I pulled the scores from OUSD by Ethnicity for Blacks.

They are so appalling I wonder why we even speak of these kids as being &quot;educated&quot;. Look at the numbers for each grade for each subject that are proficient or above and the numbers below basic or worse.

One could argue that the black kids could pull scores like this staying at home and reading comic books. I wonder if there is any value added by having them go to this &quot;school&quot; at all.

I also pulled similar scores for Piedmont High Schools.  There were so few blacks there that there were not enough students for a report. 2 or 3 students for each grade level. And that is the Brave New World at work - sorting being done all by itself.

It&#039;s too bad the report won&#039;t allow sorting by German Jewish ethnicity. It would be fun to compare OUSD and Piedmont and see the exact reverse of the black ratios.

If we are going to have these educational concentration camps we should be producing more results for the inmates and the money we are throwing into the concentration camp.

I don&#039;t care how black they are. I know these students can do better than this. It would require administration and faculty who are more concerned with results than the students comfort and pleasure and &quot;self esteem&quot;. Perhaps we should set Veteran&#039;s Preference points so high that all the incoming teachers are Military Vets? Because that kind of culture is what&#039;s needed at OUSD rather than the kinder gentler approach that has been tried and failed ever since the Great Society takeover of education in 1964.

You can do better than this with working class and proletariat children. The Catholic School systems across America and in Oakland have done better with less money all the way back through the depression and through the War relocations, 24 hour shiftwork and the men gone to WWII.  (Currently they are not so much in the business of educating proles - I&#039;m referring to 50 years ago.) I&#039;m not saying we can make the black children college ready - few are college material it would seem at this time. We can and we should make the bulk of them ready for work rather than prison. Looking at these scores I fear OUSD is grooming them for prison.

I don&#039;t care how missing, how stupid or how anything their bio-parents are. No excuses. A good school can take poor, proletariat children and make something of them. It&#039;s been done across history and it&#039;s been done across the US in the past including with black populations. It&#039;s not being done here because OUSD is deliberately producing prison fodder and whenever pressed for explanation blaming everything but the school operations for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy:  I just took a quick look. I pulled the scores from OUSD by Ethnicity for Blacks.</p>
<p>They are so appalling I wonder why we even speak of these kids as being &#8220;educated&#8221;. Look at the numbers for each grade for each subject that are proficient or above and the numbers below basic or worse.</p>
<p>One could argue that the black kids could pull scores like this staying at home and reading comic books. I wonder if there is any value added by having them go to this &#8220;school&#8221; at all.</p>
<p>I also pulled similar scores for Piedmont High Schools.  There were so few blacks there that there were not enough students for a report. 2 or 3 students for each grade level. And that is the Brave New World at work &#8211; sorting being done all by itself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad the report won&#8217;t allow sorting by German Jewish ethnicity. It would be fun to compare OUSD and Piedmont and see the exact reverse of the black ratios.</p>
<p>If we are going to have these educational concentration camps we should be producing more results for the inmates and the money we are throwing into the concentration camp.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how black they are. I know these students can do better than this. It would require administration and faculty who are more concerned with results than the students comfort and pleasure and &#8220;self esteem&#8221;. Perhaps we should set Veteran&#8217;s Preference points so high that all the incoming teachers are Military Vets? Because that kind of culture is what&#8217;s needed at OUSD rather than the kinder gentler approach that has been tried and failed ever since the Great Society takeover of education in 1964.</p>
<p>You can do better than this with working class and proletariat children. The Catholic School systems across America and in Oakland have done better with less money all the way back through the depression and through the War relocations, 24 hour shiftwork and the men gone to WWII.  (Currently they are not so much in the business of educating proles &#8211; I&#8217;m referring to 50 years ago.) I&#8217;m not saying we can make the black children college ready &#8211; few are college material it would seem at this time. We can and we should make the bulk of them ready for work rather than prison. Looking at these scores I fear OUSD is grooming them for prison.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how missing, how stupid or how anything their bio-parents are. No excuses. A good school can take poor, proletariat children and make something of them. It&#8217;s been done across history and it&#8217;s been done across the US in the past including with black populations. It&#8217;s not being done here because OUSD is deliberately producing prison fodder and whenever pressed for explanation blaming everything but the school operations for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I KNEW someone was going to ask.

Unfortunately (and perhaps this is your point?), I don&#039;t believe you&#039;ll find a similar comparison of charter schools from the district, from the charter school associations or -- today, anyway -- from me. Maybe in a couple of weeks, when the API comes out.

By way of background... It&#039;s mind-blowingly laborious and time-consuming to analyze this particular test score release (as opposed to the API), because you have to call up each school separately and compare the changes at EACH grade level and test.

I haven&#039;t figured out, yet, how to do what OUSD did to generate a single percentage for each school. Maybe one day I will possess the software and analytical powers to do it myself...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNEW someone was going to ask.</p>
<p>Unfortunately (and perhaps this is your point?), I don&#8217;t believe you&#8217;ll find a similar comparison of charter schools from the district, from the charter school associations or &#8212; today, anyway &#8212; from me. Maybe in a couple of weeks, when the API comes out.</p>
<p>By way of background&#8230; It&#8217;s mind-blowingly laborious and time-consuming to analyze this particular test score release (as opposed to the API), because you have to call up each school separately and compare the changes at EACH grade level and test.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t figured out, yet, how to do what OUSD did to generate a single percentage for each school. Maybe one day I will possess the software and analytical powers to do it myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Katy. Where is a similar comparison of the results for Oakland&#039;s charter schools?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Katy. Where is a similar comparison of the results for Oakland&#8217;s charter schools?</p>
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