It’s been my experience that when adult men change their name it is a serious red flag for a personality disorder.

If you are attracted to his ramblings, what does that say about you?

This civilization is about Western Culture. Those proficient in that go up, those who are not, fail.

Western culture has plenty of experience using public schools to transmit values to the proletariat and the middle class. The object of public education is to produce people ready for industry, the military and higher education – Not prison and welfare.

Isn’t Ron Karenga the creator of Kwanza – a nutty fantasy ceremony – and a ex-con from state prison with a sex/torture prior? Or do I have the wrong person here??

OUSD and the other urban schools in CA are simply doing a worse job now than in 1960. The reason for this is they have abandoned much of what worked in favor of what doesn’t work.

The question of school performance is not an issue of Catholic vs public schooling. The variable of money is not an acceptable standard upon which to measure a person’s worth.

The study of academic disciplines originated in prehistory, on the continent of Africa, during Africa’s dynastic monarchy period. Tied to the ethical philosophy of MAAT (preservation of the social order through the pursuit of harmony, justice and mutual responsibility), kings ruled with absolute authority. Corruption and self-interest have infiltrated the sphere of educational policy-making and implementgation. Corruption and self-interest are destroying the normal functions and outcomes of public school education. Thus, socioeconomic affluence prospers at the expense of the inner-city (Weber, Max.
THE CITY, 1958).

Despite their backgrounds, American students deserve to: be accepted, be acknowledged, be regarded holistically, have compassionate and competent teachersw, experience fair play, feel worthy, and be told the TRUTH about hmanity’s origins including the influential role of African socio-cultural history (Karenga, Maulana Ron. THE HUSIA, 3 and Neeley, Beverly. THE ETHIOPIAN GRAIL: ESSAYS ON THE ORIGIN OF CULTURAL EXCELLENCE, forthcoming very soon).

Underclass by definition can’t be “educated”. Even training them is problematic. Their only salvation is not continuing to be underclass. Our urban public schools very overtly tell everybody they have a “right” to be what they are born to and it’s wrong to change that. Relative morality I think.. You see this when the school refuses to reach black children standard english. Or any other absolutes on behavior and morality. If they are not teaching religion in school they’d better teach the Penal Code.

At least the Catholic made darn sure everybody knew the 10 commendments in 1st grade.

It’s certainly true that Catholic schools are under no legal obligation to admit disabled students, even those from families in their own parishes. Moral obligation is another question, but obviously, standards of morality differ.

The Catholics once operated schools in the flats of Oakland, etc and worked with the lower class (NOT underclass) kids. Family and friends went to these schools in the 1950s – 1960s.

This isn’t 1950. The Catholics were NEVER interested in underclass kids. They were dominant in the lower class that formed the Democratic Ethnic coalition that led up to the Great Society. My point earlier is that the Catholic Primary & Secondary education was important to the rise of that group to political and economic power in the first half of the 20th Century.

Things have changed now. For one thing, the Government has been growing the underclass as fast as it can. Like feeding rats. It’s done very deliberately.

The Catholics have no intention of getting involved with feral youth of the modern ghetto. These are left to the government that sired them.

Your confusion is your own making. It’s orgin is your quaint notion that “Catholic schools SHOULD be morally obligated to accept” {Insert politically favored group here}.

Well here’s how it works. NO ONE owes another person a crust of bread absent clan membership or voluntary association carrying obligation. This isn’t a totalitarian state yet.

The Catholics will admit to their schools when it pleases them to do so. Bless them.

It’s only the government that sets up “schools” with no standards.

As far as my experience and education vs yours: I’m not impressed.

Brave New World.

Since I have a 10th-grader who has attended urban public schools since K and a college freshman who attended urban public schools K-12, I claim the right to call out those with less or no experience with public schools. You have absolutely no firsthand knowledge, Nextset, and I have extensive firsthand experience.

Catholic schools don’t have to accept the most troubled students, and they don’t. In San Francisco, the diocese was running schools in tough neighborhoods aimed specifically at African-American kids, and closed those schools down over the past 5 years because of the difficulty of dealing with the behavioral and academic challenges those children brought to school with them. My information comes directly from the former principal of one of those schools, who’s a friend.

So the notion that Catholic schools are able to cope with the pathologies of the ghetto is false and firmly disproved by that fact.

Again, Catholic schools SHOULD be morally obligated to accept the disabled children of families in their own parishes, however. Yet instead they abdicate that responsibility to the public schools, while proclaiming themselves superior and bashing the public schools.

I know that the educrats want to blame that on the Parent. As I have said earlier, the schools are expected and are able to overcome rotten parentage to the extent the kids can be trained for basic deportment. Our public schools carefully teach them they don’t have to/should fit in with society (unless they really want to – and then table manners, and middle class values are not taught. They should be taught where the child is of low class and not taught elsewhere.

And if we’re going to keep talking about Catholic schools, I’m sorry, but I can no longer resist discussing the issue of disabled children. The surrounding parochial schools routinely dumped disabled children into my kids’ public school classes. In the most extreme case, Power Parish St. Cecilia’s in San Francisco’s inner Sunset District dumped a girl with a terminal disability into kindergarten at my kids’ elementary alma mater — the child has since died.

To me it conveys an image of Jesus calling the little children to him and barking, “Except you there, in the wheelchair — get out!” (Kicks wheelchair down front stairs of school.)

I’ll refrain from adjectives, though my keyboarding fingers are itching; the thing speaks for itself.

I know they’re all “oh, we don’t have the resources to meet disabled children’s needs,” even as they’re bashing the public schools that struggle to meet those children’s needs despite THEIR lack of resources(as we saw from the Catholic fan’s comments about public school teachers above on this thread, which started this discussion).

Remember what I said about some people not needing help? They will be fine – the iceplant in the garden – unless something interferes with Darwinism.

The Catholic Schools are the most important in promoting those who are middling. They push discipline, ambition and duty. Those qualities added to the lower middle class produce such things as the Irish takeover of the American Major Cities’ police/fire/civil service and administration in the mid 20th Century much to the displeasure of the WASPs. The Catholic Schooling had a lot to do with the national Irish rise to power from 1900 on.

Too bad our urban public schools changed so much away from these operating principles following the Great Society programs in 1960. Black progress halted and the bastardy rate skyrocketed with the introduction of those programs.