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	<title>Comments on: On the agenda: Charters, protests and Tilden</title>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you visit the Chronicle&#039;s web site you&#039;ll notice that the comments on articles are preponderantly made by angry, far-right males who post variations on the same idea multiple times a day:

-- Liberals/leftists/socialists have destroyed everything that was great about America in the good old days.
-- Poor people are animals who need to be either beaten or ignored depending on their actions.
-- Humans only understand violent negative social conditioning and everything else is just &quot;coddling.&quot;

It would be sad if this blog becomes dominated by the same simplistic and repetitive voices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you visit the Chronicle&#8217;s web site you&#8217;ll notice that the comments on articles are preponderantly made by angry, far-right males who post variations on the same idea multiple times a day:</p>
<p>&#8211; Liberals/leftists/socialists have destroyed everything that was great about America in the good old days.<br />
&#8211; Poor people are animals who need to be either beaten or ignored depending on their actions.<br />
&#8211; Humans only understand violent negative social conditioning and everything else is just &#8220;coddling.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be sad if this blog becomes dominated by the same simplistic and repetitive voices.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what&#039;s good for the goose ...

&quot; Feb. 10 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said he doesn’t “begrudge” the $17 million bonus awarded to JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon or the $9 million issued to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. CEO Lloyd Blankfein, noting that some athletes take home more pay.

The president, speaking in an interview, said in response to a question that while $17 million is “an extraordinary amount of money” for Main Street, “there are some baseball players who are making more than that and don’t get to the World Series either, so I’m shocked by that as well.”

“I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen,” Obama said in the interview yesterday in the Oval Office with Bloomberg BusinessWeek, which will appear on newsstands Friday. “I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free- market system.” 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aKGZkktzkAlA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s good for the goose &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221; Feb. 10 (Bloomberg) &#8212; President Barack Obama said he doesn’t “begrudge” the $17 million bonus awarded to JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon or the $9 million issued to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. CEO Lloyd Blankfein, noting that some athletes take home more pay.</p>
<p>The president, speaking in an interview, said in response to a question that while $17 million is “an extraordinary amount of money” for Main Street, “there are some baseball players who are making more than that and don’t get to the World Series either, so I’m shocked by that as well.”</p>
<p>“I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen,” Obama said in the interview yesterday in the Oval Office with Bloomberg BusinessWeek, which will appear on newsstands Friday. “I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free- market system.” </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=aKGZkktzkAlA" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=aKGZkktzkAlA</a></p>
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		<title>By: harlemmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlemmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great: &quot;Defend Education&quot; by staging walk outs. Schizophrenic or just plain dumb. You decide, people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great: &#8220;Defend Education&#8221; by staging walk outs. Schizophrenic or just plain dumb. You decide, people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Charter school movement is heroically saving our public school system from the wacko neo-leftists = Epsilon-Minus Semi-Moron dribble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Charter school movement is heroically saving our public school system from the wacko neo-leftists = Epsilon-Minus Semi-Moron dribble.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I would like to &quot;defend&quot; public education also I fear that the effort mentioned above really means &quot;defend public education so the public schools can continue to not educate while indoctrinating in leftist theory&quot;.

The only reason the Charter Schools are here at all is the appalling failure of the CA public school system to maintain the standards they had in the early 60&#039;s - neighborhood schools that prepared students for military, industry and higher education instead of welfare, prison and early graves. People send their kids to Charters to avoid the blackboard jungles of the urban schools such as LA Unified, Oakland Unified, Richmond Unified, etc.

In the 60&#039;s it was not a badge of downward mobility to go to these schools. They were respectable. They are not respectable schools for the most part now. Not that some students don&#039;t come out of them with social mobility - immigrants do. 

That&#039;s the problem.  &quot;Mobilizing&quot; to continue all this is not going to sell. Good people aren&#039;t going to &quot;Mobilize&quot; to continue a system they don&#039;t want to send their own kids to. The families that send their kids to LA Unified (for example) aren&#039;t exactly the people that count in society anymore.

If the public schools systems collapse it&#039;s their own fault. They shouldn&#039;t have let the leftists take over and alienate the public&#039;s affection. Charters won&#039;t make that mistake. Neither will Piedmont Unified.

Brave New World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would like to &#8220;defend&#8221; public education also I fear that the effort mentioned above really means &#8220;defend public education so the public schools can continue to not educate while indoctrinating in leftist theory&#8221;.</p>
<p>The only reason the Charter Schools are here at all is the appalling failure of the CA public school system to maintain the standards they had in the early 60&#8242;s &#8211; neighborhood schools that prepared students for military, industry and higher education instead of welfare, prison and early graves. People send their kids to Charters to avoid the blackboard jungles of the urban schools such as LA Unified, Oakland Unified, Richmond Unified, etc.</p>
<p>In the 60&#8242;s it was not a badge of downward mobility to go to these schools. They were respectable. They are not respectable schools for the most part now. Not that some students don&#8217;t come out of them with social mobility &#8211; immigrants do. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem.  &#8220;Mobilizing&#8221; to continue all this is not going to sell. Good people aren&#8217;t going to &#8220;Mobilize&#8221; to continue a system they don&#8217;t want to send their own kids to. The families that send their kids to LA Unified (for example) aren&#8217;t exactly the people that count in society anymore.</p>
<p>If the public schools systems collapse it&#8217;s their own fault. They shouldn&#8217;t have let the leftists take over and alienate the public&#8217;s affection. Charters won&#8217;t make that mistake. Neither will Piedmont Unified.</p>
<p>Brave New World.</p>
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