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	<title>Comments on: Advice to OUSD: Don&#8217;t sweat your reputation</title>
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		<title>By: Pedro Topete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro Topete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My name is Pedro.  I’m from Mexico and I attend the adult school of Oakland, CA, OACE (Oakland Adult &amp; Career Education).  When I heard the news about how  they are going to close a couple of adult schools in Oakland, I really felt so sad because it’s so important to us to continue learning English,   I already have one year in this school.   I take ESL classes and GED. I also think some students really need to get a GED diploma to get a better job and go to a college.  Maybe a good alternative is that all students to pay a fee for classes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Pedro.  I’m from Mexico and I attend the adult school of Oakland, CA, OACE (Oakland Adult &amp; Career Education).  When I heard the news about how  they are going to close a couple of adult schools in Oakland, I really felt so sad because it’s so important to us to continue learning English,   I already have one year in this school.   I take ESL classes and GED. I also think some students really need to get a GED diploma to get a better job and go to a college.  Maybe a good alternative is that all students to pay a fee for classes.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make more star schools and folks will come back to OUSD.  Respond to problems quickly so families are not turned off.  Make the OUSD bureaucracy more efficient and friendly--avoid the morass of unaswered phone and email messages that usually mark district parent interactions.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make more star schools and folks will come back to OUSD.  Respond to problems quickly so families are not turned off.  Make the OUSD bureaucracy more efficient and friendly&#8211;avoid the morass of unaswered phone and email messages that usually mark district parent interactions&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the Vision Planning at the public middle school &quot;with the best test scores of any non-charter middle school in Oakland&quot; and as one parent kept bringing up the State Standards it seemed to be ignored. There is the noble goal of closing the GAP - but it seemed to be a fear that raising the standards creates a larger gap. One father stood up and spoke and stated clearly that schools are schools and parents are parents and that the school needed to concentrate on education and the parents must contribute to education.

Two important things: no GATE committee or program and they are accepting GATE money and students and the other is that test scores and reputation of the Panther Pride seemed to significantly outweigh rigorous instruction and scholarly behavior.

As a group we often say that &quot;high stakes tests&quot; are not a good measure - but the high stakes test scores are what gives this middle school and OUSD bragging rights. It&#039;s on the district website as the most improved school district, and they are not talking about inclusion of students, reaching out to English language learners, debate teams, they are speaking of test scores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Vision Planning at the public middle school &#8220;with the best test scores of any non-charter middle school in Oakland&#8221; and as one parent kept bringing up the State Standards it seemed to be ignored. There is the noble goal of closing the GAP &#8211; but it seemed to be a fear that raising the standards creates a larger gap. One father stood up and spoke and stated clearly that schools are schools and parents are parents and that the school needed to concentrate on education and the parents must contribute to education.</p>
<p>Two important things: no GATE committee or program and they are accepting GATE money and students and the other is that test scores and reputation of the Panther Pride seemed to significantly outweigh rigorous instruction and scholarly behavior.</p>
<p>As a group we often say that &#8220;high stakes tests&#8221; are not a good measure &#8211; but the high stakes test scores are what gives this middle school and OUSD bragging rights. It&#8217;s on the district website as the most improved school district, and they are not talking about inclusion of students, reaching out to English language learners, debate teams, they are speaking of test scores.</p>
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		<title>By: harlemmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlemmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Katy - 
I really was trying to provoke honest debate, really!

I feel strongly that the district does indeed need a PR strategy. But I fear their traditional approach won&#039;t gain nearly the traction needed to change the heavy hearts and made-up minds of the public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Katy &#8211;<br />
I really was trying to provoke honest debate, really!</p>
<p>I feel strongly that the district does indeed need a PR strategy. But I fear their traditional approach won&#8217;t gain nearly the traction needed to change the heavy hearts and made-up minds of the public.</p>
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		<title>By: AC Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else find it ridiculous that OUSD either has or is developing a marketing strategy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else find it ridiculous that OUSD either has or is developing a marketing strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa!

Please, let&#039;s not compare each other to animals, however jokingly... (Such a high bar for our discussions, I know.)

The thread is about OUSD&#039;s communications and public relations plan. Let&#039;s get back to it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!</p>
<p>Please, let&#8217;s not compare each other to animals, however jokingly&#8230; (Such a high bar for our discussions, I know.)</p>
<p>The thread is about OUSD&#8217;s communications and public relations plan. Let&#8217;s get back to it!</p>
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		<title>By: harlemmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlemmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, ok. 
Please, find another bone to chew. I&#039;m trying to be kind here, but you make it hard when you act like a rabid chihuahua.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, ok.<br />
Please, find another bone to chew. I&#8217;m trying to be kind here, but you make it hard when you act like a rabid chihuahua.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would you think I&#039;m high-strung?  Like accusing me of being off-topic when you were the one who was highjacking the thread, this just seems like more projection to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you think I&#8217;m high-strung?  Like accusing me of being off-topic when you were the one who was highjacking the thread, this just seems like more projection to me.</p>
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		<title>By: harlemmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlemmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sue, Sue - 

All this and high-strung, too. 
EEEK!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, Sue &#8211; </p>
<p>All this and high-strung, too.<br />
EEEK!</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, I&#039;m reasonably well-versed, too, and my brother-in-law is an ER physician.

You&#039;re making assumptions that have no basis in reality - first, that I was being assessed for &quot;an illness, disease, etc.&quot;  Wrong, I was required to have a full physical simply due to having a 25th birthday.  When Uncle Sam says &quot;full physical&quot;, they really-really mean it.  There were no concerns to be considered or ruled out, just a bunch of paperwork for the doc to complete, and a bunch of needles and specimen cups for me. (wink - but not everyone today is a veteran, so it&#039;s not surprising that many don&#039;t understand how the military treats its enlisted folks.)

Second bad assumption, everyone here is talking about the same thing as you - when the reality is that you were trying to highjack the discussion long before you accused me of doing so.  The topic is the results of a self-selected survey with little validity, and the district&#039;s response to those unlikely-to-be-useful-in-the-real-world results.  Not exactly, &quot;the district’s “been there, done that” strategic communications plan and its shortcomings,&quot; but sort of related.

By the way, how many times did you respond to that survey, Harlemmoon?  Full disclosure, I went through it once for each of the two schools my two sons attend - which we chose as the best schools in the district for our kids.  While my husband and I agree that there are district-wide problems, we also are quite happy with the schools that our sons attend.  Oh, and we live in the flatlands, but the schools are in the hills.

There - *really* full disclosure, and I&#039;m all done now, so feel free to resume your thread highjack without further undisturbance from me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I&#8217;m reasonably well-versed, too, and my brother-in-law is an ER physician.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making assumptions that have no basis in reality &#8211; first, that I was being assessed for &#8220;an illness, disease, etc.&#8221;  Wrong, I was required to have a full physical simply due to having a 25th birthday.  When Uncle Sam says &#8220;full physical&#8221;, they really-really mean it.  There were no concerns to be considered or ruled out, just a bunch of paperwork for the doc to complete, and a bunch of needles and specimen cups for me. (wink &#8211; but not everyone today is a veteran, so it&#8217;s not surprising that many don&#8217;t understand how the military treats its enlisted folks.)</p>
<p>Second bad assumption, everyone here is talking about the same thing as you &#8211; when the reality is that you were trying to highjack the discussion long before you accused me of doing so.  The topic is the results of a self-selected survey with little validity, and the district&#8217;s response to those unlikely-to-be-useful-in-the-real-world results.  Not exactly, &#8220;the district’s “been there, done that” strategic communications plan and its shortcomings,&#8221; but sort of related.</p>
<p>By the way, how many times did you respond to that survey, Harlemmoon?  Full disclosure, I went through it once for each of the two schools my two sons attend &#8211; which we chose as the best schools in the district for our kids.  While my husband and I agree that there are district-wide problems, we also are quite happy with the schools that our sons attend.  Oh, and we live in the flatlands, but the schools are in the hills.</p>
<p>There &#8211; *really* full disclosure, and I&#8217;m all done now, so feel free to resume your thread highjack without further undisturbance from me.</p>
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