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	<title>Comments on: U.S. education secretary comes to Oakland, says he&#8217;s &#8220;a big fan&#8221; of superintendent</title>
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		<title>By: Alicew Spearman</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/09/10/u-s-education-secretary-comes-to-oakland-says-hes-a-big-fan-of-superintendent/comment-page-1/#comment-29268</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicew Spearman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cranky Teacher,
Hold on to your hat, soon all staff including teachers will be evlauated on their product, how much has students learned (ie) retained.  Public schools are no exception, there will be evaluations that look very different from what happens now.  
The point is no matter where our students come from, no matter what their living circumstancese are, they deserve a decent education.  This learning process must be measured.  Public Schools will look different, and no we will not push oput students because of low performance, education will again be something that peaks the interest of all students.  
This is just my opinion I believe it is in the  Expectations of the Adults, who give students &quot;passes&quot; because of life&#039;s circumstances.  Our students can and will learn if they are expected too, no matter what life throws at them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cranky Teacher,<br />
Hold on to your hat, soon all staff including teachers will be evlauated on their product, how much has students learned (ie) retained.  Public schools are no exception, there will be evaluations that look very different from what happens now.<br />
The point is no matter where our students come from, no matter what their living circumstancese are, they deserve a decent education.  This learning process must be measured.  Public Schools will look different, and no we will not push oput students because of low performance, education will again be something that peaks the interest of all students.<br />
This is just my opinion I believe it is in the  Expectations of the Adults, who give students &#8220;passes&#8221; because of life&#8217;s circumstances.  Our students can and will learn if they are expected too, no matter what life throws at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gordon:

I thought the same thing in regards to the credential issue when I spoke to a neighbor who transferred out a few years back. They absoultely hated the school.

I have oft wondered How a school located in the Laurel, my neighborhood, have such a high percentage of Asian students? I believe they are over 80% of the campus population.

This school is sneaky in my opinion. My neighbor said that they attempted to go to a board meeting yet the parents never knew when and where they were held. They later found out the only hold one meeting a year.

Is this legal? The school has lost a lot of love over the past years from my view. I used to be a supporter , but am disgusted by what I have read and heard.

Of course blogs are a space where anyone can be anyone and anything can be said, yet first hand stories are abound of this school. Too bad. Test scores will only carry you so far John Glover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon:</p>
<p>I thought the same thing in regards to the credential issue when I spoke to a neighbor who transferred out a few years back. They absoultely hated the school.</p>
<p>I have oft wondered How a school located in the Laurel, my neighborhood, have such a high percentage of Asian students? I believe they are over 80% of the campus population.</p>
<p>This school is sneaky in my opinion. My neighbor said that they attempted to go to a board meeting yet the parents never knew when and where they were held. They later found out the only hold one meeting a year.</p>
<p>Is this legal? The school has lost a lot of love over the past years from my view. I used to be a supporter , but am disgusted by what I have read and heard.</p>
<p>Of course blogs are a space where anyone can be anyone and anything can be said, yet first hand stories are abound of this school. Too bad. Test scores will only carry you so far John Glover.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Danning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Danning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also re: American Indian:

I have 4-5 students who transferred from American Indian.  They are all very good students, and when I asked why they transferred, they said things like: &quot;It used to be all about academics, but now it is all about discipline.&quot;  They also told me that in 9th and 10th grade, they had the same teacher for multiple subjects, so I wonder how 1 teacher can be credentialed in all of those things.  Finally, they said that they were told that they were enrolled in AP classes, but their trancripts say otherwise. I checked the College Board website, and indeed it lists only 3 approved AP classes at American Indian.   

Perhaps this is all something for an investigative journalist to look into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also re: American Indian:</p>
<p>I have 4-5 students who transferred from American Indian.  They are all very good students, and when I asked why they transferred, they said things like: &#8220;It used to be all about academics, but now it is all about discipline.&#8221;  They also told me that in 9th and 10th grade, they had the same teacher for multiple subjects, so I wonder how 1 teacher can be credentialed in all of those things.  Finally, they said that they were told that they were enrolled in AP classes, but their trancripts say otherwise. I checked the College Board website, and indeed it lists only 3 approved AP classes at American Indian.   </p>
<p>Perhaps this is all something for an investigative journalist to look into.</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: American Indian ... i heard from two students who wanted to transfer this year that the school was &quot;playing games&quot; ... by not releasing their transcripts in a timely fashion. Both students have very high GPA&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: American Indian &#8230; i heard from two students who wanted to transfer this year that the school was &#8220;playing games&#8221; &#8230; by not releasing their transcripts in a timely fashion. Both students have very high GPA&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alice, if the testing mania continues to deepen its hold on evaluations, funding, etc., you will see such bad habits in all public schools, not just charters.

If benefits accrue to those schools with the best test-takers, we can expect to see all the same kind of enrollment and recruitment shenanigans we see undertaken to secure high school quarterbacks and point guards, except on a mass scale.

If the entire society is going to look at my school through the lens of API, why the hell shouldn&#039;t we DHP the hell out of lousy and truant students?

Oh, yeah, because we have morals, and we care about the struggling individuals. But why should the system be antagonistic to good morals?

As for John Glover, screw you: I have talked to former students of your school who are EXCELLENT students yet because they didn&#039;t fit in to your scheme were HIT and MOCKED relentlessly by ADULTS, put in detention and isolated for WEEKS on end. And no, I&#039;m not talking about &quot;thugs,&quot; these are SpEd kids. You don&#039;t have to expel them, you just make their life a living hell until they beg their parents to leave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice, if the testing mania continues to deepen its hold on evaluations, funding, etc., you will see such bad habits in all public schools, not just charters.</p>
<p>If benefits accrue to those schools with the best test-takers, we can expect to see all the same kind of enrollment and recruitment shenanigans we see undertaken to secure high school quarterbacks and point guards, except on a mass scale.</p>
<p>If the entire society is going to look at my school through the lens of API, why the hell shouldn&#8217;t we DHP the hell out of lousy and truant students?</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, because we have morals, and we care about the struggling individuals. But why should the system be antagonistic to good morals?</p>
<p>As for John Glover, screw you: I have talked to former students of your school who are EXCELLENT students yet because they didn&#8217;t fit in to your scheme were HIT and MOCKED relentlessly by ADULTS, put in detention and isolated for WEEKS on end. And no, I&#8217;m not talking about &#8220;thugs,&#8221; these are SpEd kids. You don&#8217;t have to expel them, you just make their life a living hell until they beg their parents to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Spearman</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/09/10/u-s-education-secretary-comes-to-oakland-says-hes-a-big-fan-of-superintendent/comment-page-1/#comment-29231</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Spearman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Real John Glover,
SORRY!  At one point I really thought I did not know the person who wrote the post, I am so glad it was not you.  I knew that AICS worked with all children, but as I have found out on this board folks will tell you one thing and do the opposite.  We all know that we do have charters which do exactly that, push out low performing students.  Being Chair of the Saftey Committee, we are seeing many, many students being pushed out/expelled from charters who do not deserve the punishment, however they are low performing students.  Also around testing time, one should see the students requesting admission to the public schools after the charter recieve their ADA.  Makes one guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real John Glover,<br />
SORRY!  At one point I really thought I did not know the person who wrote the post, I am so glad it was not you.  I knew that AICS worked with all children, but as I have found out on this board folks will tell you one thing and do the opposite.  We all know that we do have charters which do exactly that, push out low performing students.  Being Chair of the Saftey Committee, we are seeing many, many students being pushed out/expelled from charters who do not deserve the punishment, however they are low performing students.  Also around testing time, one should see the students requesting admission to the public schools after the charter recieve their ADA.  Makes one guess.</p>
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		<title>By: John Glover</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Katy.  They say imitation is the highest form of flattery, but I&#039;m not sure that applies to libel, too.

We take all comers at American Indian, and we set high expectations for everyone.  Did you know that over 90% of Oakland&#039;s passing AP Calculus AB scores for black and Latino students came from AIPHS?  To accomplish this, we must be serving a diverse student body (and serving them well).

Alice (and anyone else curious about our schools), you&#039;re more than welcome to come see what we&#039;re up too over here - stop by anytime.  You will see kids working at a wide range of levels.  You&#039;ll also come to understand that I consider it a personal failure whenever a student leaves our school by any means other than graduation.  Never have we expelled a student at American Indian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Katy.  They say imitation is the highest form of flattery, but I&#8217;m not sure that applies to libel, too.</p>
<p>We take all comers at American Indian, and we set high expectations for everyone.  Did you know that over 90% of Oakland&#8217;s passing AP Calculus AB scores for black and Latino students came from AIPHS?  To accomplish this, we must be serving a diverse student body (and serving them well).</p>
<p>Alice (and anyone else curious about our schools), you&#8217;re more than welcome to come see what we&#8217;re up too over here &#8211; stop by anytime.  You will see kids working at a wide range of levels.  You&#8217;ll also come to understand that I consider it a personal failure whenever a student leaves our school by any means other than graduation.  Never have we expelled a student at American Indian.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/09/10/u-s-education-secretary-comes-to-oakland-says-hes-a-big-fan-of-superintendent/comment-page-1/#comment-29229</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. I removed the post in question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I removed the post in question.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/09/10/u-s-education-secretary-comes-to-oakland-says-hes-a-big-fan-of-superintendent/comment-page-1/#comment-29228</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I checked with the real John Glover, who said he did not write comment #36.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked with the real John Glover, who said he did not write comment #36.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/09/10/u-s-education-secretary-comes-to-oakland-says-hes-a-big-fan-of-superintendent/comment-page-1/#comment-29226</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks, remember, this is the Internet -- John Glover may not really be John Glover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, remember, this is the Internet &#8212; John Glover may not really be John Glover.</p>
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