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	<title>Comments on: Meet Oakland&#8217;s new director for African American male achievement</title>
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		<title>By: Corigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve taught in OUSD for 5 years, and in Harlem, Atlanta, and Hempstead NY for a total of 17 years.  Teaching diverse student pops isn&#039;t a cake walk-but isn&#039;t as arduous/ or result in the unsuccessful numbers if the Expectation is there.  I&#039;ve seen myriad classrooms, and dozens of teachers/admins/superintendents/ etc - with varying degrees of respect for Expectation begets lower achievement.  I&#039;ve seen teachers of all races require little to nothing from kids, and the kids who suffer the most are the ones lowest on the pole.  Any attempt to revamp this is admirable, but it does need Money, Parenting, and Expectations.  Schools work all over the country despite the population.  Well wishes to C.C.; to authentically interested teachers, and the kids of OUSD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taught in OUSD for 5 years, and in Harlem, Atlanta, and Hempstead NY for a total of 17 years.  Teaching diverse student pops isn&#8217;t a cake walk-but isn&#8217;t as arduous/ or result in the unsuccessful numbers if the Expectation is there.  I&#8217;ve seen myriad classrooms, and dozens of teachers/admins/superintendents/ etc &#8211; with varying degrees of respect for Expectation begets lower achievement.  I&#8217;ve seen teachers of all races require little to nothing from kids, and the kids who suffer the most are the ones lowest on the pole.  Any attempt to revamp this is admirable, but it does need Money, Parenting, and Expectations.  Schools work all over the country despite the population.  Well wishes to C.C.; to authentically interested teachers, and the kids of OUSD.</p>
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		<title>By: Hikaru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hikaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Transforming a problem with so manner factors involved is quite difficult. Especially when the institution has little to no recent history of turning much around. OUSD has existed with countless examples of success stories underneath it&#039;s nose for decades and hasn&#039;t manage to adequately support or expand hardly any of them. The question is not whether C.C. can fix the problem. The question at this point may be, &quot;How many people think it&#039;s a problem that can be fixed?&quot; If he is one of the few, then much more will have to occur than what I think most folks understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transforming a problem with so manner factors involved is quite difficult. Especially when the institution has little to no recent history of turning much around. OUSD has existed with countless examples of success stories underneath it&#8217;s nose for decades and hasn&#8217;t manage to adequately support or expand hardly any of them. The question is not whether C.C. can fix the problem. The question at this point may be, &#8220;How many people think it&#8217;s a problem that can be fixed?&#8221; If he is one of the few, then much more will have to occur than what I think most folks understand.</p>
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		<title>By: rumbler</title>
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		<dc:creator>rumbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need Rhee and Chatmon both.  Does Tony push against OEA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need Rhee and Chatmon both.  Does Tony push against OEA?</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@TTH - I stand by my statements. I am highly qualified and committed to my daily work as a classroom Teacher. I will not be leaving anytime soon ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TTH &#8211; I stand by my statements. I am highly qualified and committed to my daily work as a classroom Teacher. I will not be leaving anytime soon &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Mr. Chatmon can we assigned to do is to make sure that African American students get their homework done. He can make sure that if it cannot be done at home because the tools or parent support does not exist that the students can finish their homework after school ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.

My two sons - in their combined 12 classes today spent over two hours on homework issues during class time (taking away learning time from others)  in which the VAST MAJORITY of students were African American who did not turn in homework during the week and were given a second chance on the weekend and still didn&#039;t turn it in.

All students have a right to learn. All students learning should not be held up for students who choose not to attempt the work. All students deserve to have someone help them with their homework. If parents can&#039;t do it - someone needs to help. BUT WE MUST STOP INTERRUPTING CLASS TIME FOR  NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR. As it is, students in Oakland are cheated out of 14 semesters of academic advancement they would get if we had 7 periods a day instead of 6 - let&#039;s stop the nonsense and allow students who are at school to learn to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Mr. Chatmon can we assigned to do is to make sure that African American students get their homework done. He can make sure that if it cannot be done at home because the tools or parent support does not exist that the students can finish their homework after school ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.</p>
<p>My two sons &#8211; in their combined 12 classes today spent over two hours on homework issues during class time (taking away learning time from others)  in which the VAST MAJORITY of students were African American who did not turn in homework during the week and were given a second chance on the weekend and still didn&#8217;t turn it in.</p>
<p>All students have a right to learn. All students learning should not be held up for students who choose not to attempt the work. All students deserve to have someone help them with their homework. If parents can&#8217;t do it &#8211; someone needs to help. BUT WE MUST STOP INTERRUPTING CLASS TIME FOR  NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR. As it is, students in Oakland are cheated out of 14 semesters of academic advancement they would get if we had 7 periods a day instead of 6 &#8211; let&#8217;s stop the nonsense and allow students who are at school to learn to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another remark on this situation:

Why are the posters above even thinking that Mr. Chatmon&#039;s position is a policy making job - that he is actually in a position where he can change or control anything? Do you think the title means anything? Do you think the pay rate confers power? Do you believe in Santa Claus??

Looking at his biography - is there a single thing about his history that could possibly make someone think I&#039;m not correct in my posting above as to why he was selected? Does he look or feel like Michelle Rhee? Does he have a title of Superintendent of Schools?

He&#039;s probably the perfect candidate for what he was hired for. Pacification. That is what OUSD is selling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another remark on this situation:</p>
<p>Why are the posters above even thinking that Mr. Chatmon&#8217;s position is a policy making job &#8211; that he is actually in a position where he can change or control anything? Do you think the title means anything? Do you think the pay rate confers power? Do you believe in Santa Claus??</p>
<p>Looking at his biography &#8211; is there a single thing about his history that could possibly make someone think I&#8217;m not correct in my posting above as to why he was selected? Does he look or feel like Michelle Rhee? Does he have a title of Superintendent of Schools?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably the perfect candidate for what he was hired for. Pacification. That is what OUSD is selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TruthHurts: You really have got it wrong. Chatmon (his job position) is a PR hack - if he says one thing that displeases his bosses he will be called on the carpet and corrected. He will be fired or transferred if he persists in saying or doing anything that displeases administration. He is only there to reassure everyone that all is well. I don&#039;t know him or OUSD administration personally but I certainly do know organizational behavior. 

And another thing.  Organizations like OUSD have a habit of deliberately hiring/promoting people they know they can get rid of easily. Especially when blacks are involved. I&#039;ve seen that trick a hundred times - especially when liberals are involved. The last thing they want is a candidate who could ever stand up to them politically.

So your belief about Mr. Chatmon is just not reasonable. More likely he will be well paid to say only the party line and was selected because they believed he would do so and they can enforce it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TruthHurts: You really have got it wrong. Chatmon (his job position) is a PR hack &#8211; if he says one thing that displeases his bosses he will be called on the carpet and corrected. He will be fired or transferred if he persists in saying or doing anything that displeases administration. He is only there to reassure everyone that all is well. I don&#8217;t know him or OUSD administration personally but I certainly do know organizational behavior. </p>
<p>And another thing.  Organizations like OUSD have a habit of deliberately hiring/promoting people they know they can get rid of easily. Especially when blacks are involved. I&#8217;ve seen that trick a hundred times &#8211; especially when liberals are involved. The last thing they want is a candidate who could ever stand up to them politically.</p>
<p>So your belief about Mr. Chatmon is just not reasonable. More likely he will be well paid to say only the party line and was selected because they believed he would do so and they can enforce it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTruthHurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTruthHurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Harold @12 and Rick @16.

Yes, the problems do begin at home and they are systemic.  Yet, we have kids with HORRENDOUS home lives that succeed in school and life.  Why is that?  Can we replicate it?  Scapegoating parents (and kids) is convenient, but it IS NOT the whole story.

Likewise, appointing Chatmon in itself does nothing.  However, I expect some pretty challenging conversation in the next 18 months.  Conversation that challenges how resources (quality teachers, supplies, etc.) are provided.  Conversation that challenges the ABSOLUTE STALENESS and IRRELEVANCE of much curriculum and teaching methods in some classrooms.  Conversation that finally, finally calls out those who believe our kids can&#039;t do it and yet are entrusted with their future - which is CRIMINAL.

Whether that conversation leads to any change won&#039;t be up to Chatmon, it will be up to us.  We will either point to poverty and poor parenting, or we&#039;ll roll up our sleeves and do something about it.  Chatmon and Smith need HELP.  40 years of structural nonsense is benefiting someone and I bet they won&#039;t want to see it change.

It is a shame that despite ever-mounting evidence, many continue to cling to the belief that without more money or better parenting, this is the best we can do.  I&#039;d encourage anyone who feels this way to stay far away from urban education because you are the cancer that needs removing.

That is not to say that more money and better parenting aren&#039;t needed.  They are.  It is to say, we are no where near our capacity with what we have.  The public knows it and is increasingly unwilling to throw good money after bad.  Districts nationwide are proving this all the time.  Do good-get money.  Suck - shut down.  That&#039;s what&#039;s happening folks.   I don&#039;t like it, but people speaking with their feet and their wallets.  Chatmon will be in a good place to call BS on the whole charade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Harold @12 and Rick @16.</p>
<p>Yes, the problems do begin at home and they are systemic.  Yet, we have kids with HORRENDOUS home lives that succeed in school and life.  Why is that?  Can we replicate it?  Scapegoating parents (and kids) is convenient, but it IS NOT the whole story.</p>
<p>Likewise, appointing Chatmon in itself does nothing.  However, I expect some pretty challenging conversation in the next 18 months.  Conversation that challenges how resources (quality teachers, supplies, etc.) are provided.  Conversation that challenges the ABSOLUTE STALENESS and IRRELEVANCE of much curriculum and teaching methods in some classrooms.  Conversation that finally, finally calls out those who believe our kids can&#8217;t do it and yet are entrusted with their future &#8211; which is CRIMINAL.</p>
<p>Whether that conversation leads to any change won&#8217;t be up to Chatmon, it will be up to us.  We will either point to poverty and poor parenting, or we&#8217;ll roll up our sleeves and do something about it.  Chatmon and Smith need HELP.  40 years of structural nonsense is benefiting someone and I bet they won&#8217;t want to see it change.</p>
<p>It is a shame that despite ever-mounting evidence, many continue to cling to the belief that without more money or better parenting, this is the best we can do.  I&#8217;d encourage anyone who feels this way to stay far away from urban education because you are the cancer that needs removing.</p>
<p>That is not to say that more money and better parenting aren&#8217;t needed.  They are.  It is to say, we are no where near our capacity with what we have.  The public knows it and is increasingly unwilling to throw good money after bad.  Districts nationwide are proving this all the time.  Do good-get money.  Suck &#8211; shut down.  That&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening folks.   I don&#8217;t like it, but people speaking with their feet and their wallets.  Chatmon will be in a good place to call BS on the whole charade.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The statistics given in the article talk about the drop out rate from either the end of 8th grade or the beginning of ninth grade. However, if you look at the enrollment in East and West Oakland ELEMENTARY schools, you will find an unofficial drop out rate in elementary schools of about 20% in some schools. 

In middle school you will find another group of &quot;unofficial&quot; drop outs.

When the reported figure of 377 out of nearly 956 - the number is actually closer to 377 out of about 1200 students,

We need to solve the problem of drop outs, but we also need to reduce the birth rate when young black men are not married to the mothers of their children. If we graduate one black man who may even be college ready, who has had four children out of wedlock by age 20, we have a larger problem.

We need to lead our young men through high school free from parenthood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statistics given in the article talk about the drop out rate from either the end of 8th grade or the beginning of ninth grade. However, if you look at the enrollment in East and West Oakland ELEMENTARY schools, you will find an unofficial drop out rate in elementary schools of about 20% in some schools. </p>
<p>In middle school you will find another group of &#8220;unofficial&#8221; drop outs.</p>
<p>When the reported figure of 377 out of nearly 956 &#8211; the number is actually closer to 377 out of about 1200 students,</p>
<p>We need to solve the problem of drop outs, but we also need to reduce the birth rate when young black men are not married to the mothers of their children. If we graduate one black man who may even be college ready, who has had four children out of wedlock by age 20, we have a larger problem.</p>
<p>We need to lead our young men through high school free from parenthood.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this a joke? Does anyone who has worked in OUSD public schools during the the last 40 years believe this will help over 90% of the black student who are failing  Algebra in the 10-11 grade?

Mr. Tony Smith, I supported you at first, however, this is proof that you have no idea what our students need to succeed in the classroom. I expected more from you and that is my falut. More race politics at work at the cost of our children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a joke? Does anyone who has worked in OUSD public schools during the the last 40 years believe this will help over 90% of the black student who are failing  Algebra in the 10-11 grade?</p>
<p>Mr. Tony Smith, I supported you at first, however, this is proof that you have no idea what our students need to succeed in the classroom. I expected more from you and that is my falut. More race politics at work at the cost of our children.</p>
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