And, of course police are at the crime scene after the fact 99% of the time. That’s not the argument, is it? Isnt the argument that police presence deters crime, so that many places do not become crime scenes in the first place?

1. 99+% of the time police are at the crime scene after the fact.

2. Not having enough officers means that the best that the police can do is to keep crime “localized” to certain high crime areas.

In these desperate times there will be even more desperate people, and society will break down even more, not to mention the fact that as a society we help and encourage irresponsible people to breed(welfare,AFDC,Section 8)and produce even more irresponsible people, and we just cannot sustain or contain it.

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and

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WX8-4YC2XBX-1&_user=10&_coverDate=05%2F31%2F2010&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1485983633&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=86e1fc76632b7e258387d60b4f6d1dd5&searchtype=a

Oakland police asking for the community’s help

On 28 Sep 2010 at 2:16 a.m. a six year old girl was shot as she slept in her parent’s bed in the 1600 block of Seminary Ave. She survived her injuries and is a truly brave and heroic little girl. Oakland Police Felony Assault investigators have been working diligently on the case. This disturbing crime is still unsolved. We are asking for the public’s help in bringing a sense of justice to the victim and her family. This was an act of senseless violence perpetrated against an innocent child. Anyone who has any information regarding this case is asked to call the Criminal Investigation Division-Sgt.P.Gonzales at 510-238-3328. Crime Stoppers has offered a reward of up to $10,000 for information that leads to an arrest in this case.

The Oakland Police would like to remind the community that Oakland is a sanctuary city. The Police Department is not interested in community members’ residence status and you will not be asked questions regarding your residency status at anytime during the course of your contact with the officers.

Some people just make good victims. Especially products of public schools.

Brave New World.

My guess is cops act more as guards to keep crime ghettoized, in the most accurate sense of the word.

Just keep saying gang violence is down.

You have your reality and the rest of us have ours. We live in CA. People can see for themselves. Some people are so insulated from this that they can believe whatever they would like to. When it’s your turn to be a victim – you will howl at the government for not protecting you. I see that a lot. The “protection” is collapsing, and it is increasingly being withdrawn from minority neighborhoods which are “no go” zones.

What do you expect to happen when Oakland (for example) lays off all those cops?

Think of it as the physician using steroids to make a dying patient more comfortable as a fungal infection eats his lungs. Things are getting better, right? Steroids suppress the immune system further. Bye Bye.

What you perceive as getting better is the calm before the storm. The factors favoring anarchy are getting stronger in the US urban areas. And the rotten schools contribute to it. Unemployable adolescent males will join the first gang that will have them. The females will fall in line with the males. It’s like a job for them.

You might want to start reading John Robb’s Global Guerrillas blog which tracks such things. http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/