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	<title>Comments on: How they spent their summers</title>
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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: Ms. McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I simply must acknowledge and congratulate the sophomores I had the pleasure of working with this summer at Fremont High School.  We started out with a total of 70 students, spread over two classes; a significant number of them never showed up at all (why not?  And how do we fix that next summer?)

The numbers dwindled further as the sun shone outside, but in the end, 38 remained.  They worked extremely hard for five weeks to recover their English credits, and I am very proud of them.  Each class was two and a half hours long, and I promise you, there were NO charity grades.  

Good job, darlings, and I wish you every success this upcoming school year.  (And remember...nine hours of sleep every single night!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply must acknowledge and congratulate the sophomores I had the pleasure of working with this summer at Fremont High School.  We started out with a total of 70 students, spread over two classes; a significant number of them never showed up at all (why not?  And how do we fix that next summer?)</p>
<p>The numbers dwindled further as the sun shone outside, but in the end, 38 remained.  They worked extremely hard for five weeks to recover their English credits, and I am very proud of them.  Each class was two and a half hours long, and I promise you, there were NO charity grades.  </p>
<p>Good job, darlings, and I wish you every success this upcoming school year.  (And remember&#8230;nine hours of sleep every single night!)</p>
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		<title>By: livegreen</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2011/08/10/how-they-spent-their-summers/comment-page-1/#comment-38890</link>
		<dc:creator>livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy, Please look into FOSS and where it breaks down at schools that teach it.  It would make an interesting story on several levels...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy, Please look into FOSS and where it breaks down at schools that teach it.  It would make an interesting story on several levels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: livegreen</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2011/08/10/how-they-spent-their-summers/comment-page-1/#comment-38889</link>
		<dc:creator>livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 05:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think both Skyline Mom and Debora have valid points about different ways to stimulate children during the summer.  

I want to 2nd two of Debora&#039;s other points:
--OUSD could easily aggregate a list of recommended summer camps, as well as age-appropriate reading.  Primarily it would benefit the children, secondarily it would benefit the school district.  (Gee, does OUSD have an interest in that?);

--OUSD does not require enough science teaching.  They even have a program designed by UC Berkeley called FOSS.  But is it taught at all schools?  No.  And is it taught by all the teachers at the schools where it&#039;s supposedly taught?  No.  That is strictly up to the teachers (who often feel justifiably crammed by Open Court).

These are both two things OUSD could easily do (if they put their minds too it), and that would have a big payoff for both the kids AND the District.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both Skyline Mom and Debora have valid points about different ways to stimulate children during the summer.  </p>
<p>I want to 2nd two of Debora&#8217;s other points:<br />
&#8211;OUSD could easily aggregate a list of recommended summer camps, as well as age-appropriate reading.  Primarily it would benefit the children, secondarily it would benefit the school district.  (Gee, does OUSD have an interest in that?);</p>
<p>&#8211;OUSD does not require enough science teaching.  They even have a program designed by UC Berkeley called FOSS.  But is it taught at all schools?  No.  And is it taught by all the teachers at the schools where it&#8217;s supposedly taught?  No.  That is strictly up to the teachers (who often feel justifiably crammed by Open Court).</p>
<p>These are both two things OUSD could easily do (if they put their minds too it), and that would have a big payoff for both the kids AND the District.</p>
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		<title>By: Debora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skyline Mom: My daughter attends ATDP every year by choice. The choice is hers to attend, the choice of courses is hers. The thing about Blythe is that she really, really loves to learn. In three years of elementary school she actually asked her teachers if she could take the tests in advance to &quot;give them the scores they need&quot; for the opportunity to learn something she did not already know during class time. Blythe is the type of student who chooses to live to learn. 

All of that does not need to be in a formal classroom, of course. However, students who want to learn should be given the opportunity to do so. My daughter has learns through almost everything she does. She milks the goats down the street, mucks the goat stall as well. Blythe makes a lemonade stand to earn money for many of the things other young people are given by their families. She works hard at work, volunteering, and school.

What she wants most, though, is to learn. I often hear parents and school officials talk about the universities that have accepted students from OUSD. I believe that students from OUSD have the potential to be accepted to any university in the US and abroad. My ideas about learning and my daughter&#039;s education are not based on university acceptance nearly a decade away. The state of California is very clear that there are science standards for every school year. Blythe loves and values science education. Often OUSD classrooms teach less than half of the science standards, particularly in elementary school. For this reason, Blythe takes her science classes in the summer - not for acceptance to university - but for the pure love of learning. If you watched her in the video you would see that she has pure joy in her chemistry class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skyline Mom: My daughter attends ATDP every year by choice. The choice is hers to attend, the choice of courses is hers. The thing about Blythe is that she really, really loves to learn. In three years of elementary school she actually asked her teachers if she could take the tests in advance to &#8220;give them the scores they need&#8221; for the opportunity to learn something she did not already know during class time. Blythe is the type of student who chooses to live to learn. </p>
<p>All of that does not need to be in a formal classroom, of course. However, students who want to learn should be given the opportunity to do so. My daughter has learns through almost everything she does. She milks the goats down the street, mucks the goat stall as well. Blythe makes a lemonade stand to earn money for many of the things other young people are given by their families. She works hard at work, volunteering, and school.</p>
<p>What she wants most, though, is to learn. I often hear parents and school officials talk about the universities that have accepted students from OUSD. I believe that students from OUSD have the potential to be accepted to any university in the US and abroad. My ideas about learning and my daughter&#8217;s education are not based on university acceptance nearly a decade away. The state of California is very clear that there are science standards for every school year. Blythe loves and values science education. Often OUSD classrooms teach less than half of the science standards, particularly in elementary school. For this reason, Blythe takes her science classes in the summer &#8211; not for acceptance to university &#8211; but for the pure love of learning. If you watched her in the video you would see that she has pure joy in her chemistry class.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[edit-

I meant to say that the bar to avoid retention is so low that virtually anyone can pass it(much like the HS exit exam, which is 8th grade level). achievement becomes illusory because the bar has been lowered so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edit-</p>
<p>I meant to say that the bar to avoid retention is so low that virtually anyone can pass it(much like the HS exit exam, which is 8th grade level). achievement becomes illusory because the bar has been lowered so much.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[edit-

The bar to avoid retention is so low that virtually anyone can pass it(much like the HS exit exam, which is 8th grade level). achievement becomes illusory because the bar has been lowered so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edit-</p>
<p>The bar to avoid retention is so low that virtually anyone can pass it(much like the HS exit exam, which is 8th grade level). achievement becomes illusory because the bar has been lowered so much.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2011/08/10/how-they-spent-their-summers/comment-page-1/#comment-38788</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skyline Mom,
            Every child who works hard at his/her education during the year deserves the option of having a fun summer without ridicule. The problem is that from kindergarten on up we have far too many kids that are basic,below basic, and far below basic(because of apathy, and educational policy, social promotion rears it&#039;s ugly head).The bar for retention is so low that practically anyone can pass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skyline Mom,<br />
            Every child who works hard at his/her education during the year deserves the option of having a fun summer without ridicule. The problem is that from kindergarten on up we have far too many kids that are basic,below basic, and far below basic(because of apathy, and educational policy, social promotion rears it&#8217;s ugly head).The bar for retention is so low that practically anyone can pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Skyline Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skyline Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point was that there are different paths to success and that parents should not feel that they are not &quot;doing right by their child&quot; if they choose to let the child have an old fashioned summer of play, sports and relaxation followed by a classic teenager job when they are older (or a volunteer job given the lack of paying jobs for teenagers right now). There are so many experts and consultants telling parents that they have to do something academic in the summer and often these consultants have an economic interest in the advice they give.  I was just trying to reassure parents that other approaches are possible.  BTW many of the students that I know (most of whom are in our public schools) do read by choice so perhaps the picture is brighter than you think]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was that there are different paths to success and that parents should not feel that they are not &#8220;doing right by their child&#8221; if they choose to let the child have an old fashioned summer of play, sports and relaxation followed by a classic teenager job when they are older (or a volunteer job given the lack of paying jobs for teenagers right now). There are so many experts and consultants telling parents that they have to do something academic in the summer and often these consultants have an economic interest in the advice they give.  I was just trying to reassure parents that other approaches are possible.  BTW many of the students that I know (most of whom are in our public schools) do read by choice so perhaps the picture is brighter than you think</p>
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		<title>By: Makeitgoaway</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2011/08/10/how-they-spent-their-summers/comment-page-1/#comment-38782</link>
		<dc:creator>Makeitgoaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But your kids had a parent who nurtured them at home and provided them with books, vacations  and conversation so missing from the lives of many of today&#039;s students.  You obviously did a great job.  The  majority of students will not read unless instructed or required to do so.  Sad, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But your kids had a parent who nurtured them at home and provided them with books, vacations  and conversation so missing from the lives of many of today&#8217;s students.  You obviously did a great job.  The  majority of students will not read unless instructed or required to do so.  Sad, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Skyline Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skyline Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very interesting to me to read all these comments regarding the need for academics in the summer.  I have two boys, both were designated as GATE students. One is attending a top UC and the other will attend an Ivy league college in the fall. Both attended OUSD schools from K-12. Neither ever participated in any academic camp or program in the summer.  They went to sports camps, we traveled or visited family and as they grew older they had jobs. In this test driven and academically pressured environment we thought it was very important to have a break and be kids!  They did read-but the downtime allowed them to recharge and find books that interested them-just as adults do when they have the chance to take a vacation. Just a different viewpoint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very interesting to me to read all these comments regarding the need for academics in the summer.  I have two boys, both were designated as GATE students. One is attending a top UC and the other will attend an Ivy league college in the fall. Both attended OUSD schools from K-12. Neither ever participated in any academic camp or program in the summer.  They went to sports camps, we traveled or visited family and as they grew older they had jobs. In this test driven and academically pressured environment we thought it was very important to have a break and be kids!  They did read-but the downtime allowed them to recharge and find books that interested them-just as adults do when they have the chance to take a vacation. Just a different viewpoint.</p>
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