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		<title>By: Livegreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what Title 1 funding is and our school gets it.  FRL is the basis for Title 1 funding and that&#039;s what I was referring to.  Perhaps I did not phrase my question the right way: is there anything else that adds to this $ gap per student besides Title 1?  Also are the #s available publicly for what OUSD receives per student at Title 1 schools vs. non-T1 schools?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what Title 1 funding is and our school gets it.  FRL is the basis for Title 1 funding and that&#8217;s what I was referring to.  Perhaps I did not phrase my question the right way: is there anything else that adds to this $ gap per student besides Title 1?  Also are the #s available publicly for what OUSD receives per student at Title 1 schools vs. non-T1 schools?</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livegreen: Google Title 1 Funding - it is federal money designed to make up the disadvantages of poor students. There are limits on how to spend the money however the way your PTA spends the money is the way the school can spend Title 1 money it is just that they will have fewer adult bodies.

Peach is right - middle class parents and families would never stand for only reading and math with litlle or no science, social studies, art, music, drama, science fair participation, or writing. However, parents in the flatland schools rarely visit schools that have these learning opportunities and parents who have these learning opportunities rarely visit the schools who don&#039;t have them. This is why when middle class parents look at school closures where test scores are poor, they see opportunity for students to get &quot;more education&#039; and why families see the closing of a neighborhood school as a loss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livegreen: Google Title 1 Funding &#8211; it is federal money designed to make up the disadvantages of poor students. There are limits on how to spend the money however the way your PTA spends the money is the way the school can spend Title 1 money it is just that they will have fewer adult bodies.</p>
<p>Peach is right &#8211; middle class parents and families would never stand for only reading and math with litlle or no science, social studies, art, music, drama, science fair participation, or writing. However, parents in the flatland schools rarely visit schools that have these learning opportunities and parents who have these learning opportunities rarely visit the schools who don&#8217;t have them. This is why when middle class parents look at school closures where test scores are poor, they see opportunity for students to get &#8220;more education&#8217; and why families see the closing of a neighborhood school as a loss.</p>
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		<title>By: A Peach</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Peach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Catherine is right.  She is describing the huge discrepancies in both core curriculum offerings (writing, art, music, PE, library, literature study, history/social studies, and science) and after school programs between hills schools and most schools in OUSD, K-12.  This inequitable situation has been the case regardless of the administration or of the membership of the school board.
  
The disparities exist because all levels of decision makers have little or no belief that the children of working people and of non Caucasian parents deserve a robust education.  Money is allocated for everything but excellent instructiion, despite the best efforts of many talented, hard working teachers, principals, and curriculum leaders.

To find out the truth of the statements, school visits are all that are necessary.  Go to an elementary, middle and high school in a flatlands or foothills area, then visit the same level schools in the hills within the same region.  Sit in on classes, look at displayed student work, ask teachers for examples of reports, essays, lab reports and websites produced by students during the first semester, specifically those that were done within the classroom.  Ask random students, at any school, to name the continents, their local elected officials, a few principles enshrined in the Bill of Rights or to explain the workings of any system in their bodies or the broad aspects of healthy nutrition.  The differences in what you will find will take your breath away.  

While vising campuses, one can see which schools have open libraries, accessible technology, maps, globes, math manipulatives, classroom libraries and refernce books that students can touch, or science experiments ongoing in each classroom.

My hope is that you will see the state mandated resources and student activities in some of the schools in the less affluent areas because such wonderful places exist in OUSD.  We need to move toward having such schools considered the norm rather than the exception.  

Going back to the topic of construction expenditures -parents and educators should be united in ensuring that initiatives (opening/closing schools, changing configurations, or building structures) have strengthening the education offered to all students as the only priority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Catherine is right.  She is describing the huge discrepancies in both core curriculum offerings (writing, art, music, PE, library, literature study, history/social studies, and science) and after school programs between hills schools and most schools in OUSD, K-12.  This inequitable situation has been the case regardless of the administration or of the membership of the school board.</p>
<p>The disparities exist because all levels of decision makers have little or no belief that the children of working people and of non Caucasian parents deserve a robust education.  Money is allocated for everything but excellent instructiion, despite the best efforts of many talented, hard working teachers, principals, and curriculum leaders.</p>
<p>To find out the truth of the statements, school visits are all that are necessary.  Go to an elementary, middle and high school in a flatlands or foothills area, then visit the same level schools in the hills within the same region.  Sit in on classes, look at displayed student work, ask teachers for examples of reports, essays, lab reports and websites produced by students during the first semester, specifically those that were done within the classroom.  Ask random students, at any school, to name the continents, their local elected officials, a few principles enshrined in the Bill of Rights or to explain the workings of any system in their bodies or the broad aspects of healthy nutrition.  The differences in what you will find will take your breath away.  </p>
<p>While vising campuses, one can see which schools have open libraries, accessible technology, maps, globes, math manipulatives, classroom libraries and refernce books that students can touch, or science experiments ongoing in each classroom.</p>
<p>My hope is that you will see the state mandated resources and student activities in some of the schools in the less affluent areas because such wonderful places exist in OUSD.  We need to move toward having such schools considered the norm rather than the exception.  </p>
<p>Going back to the topic of construction expenditures -parents and educators should be united in ensuring that initiatives (opening/closing schools, changing configurations, or building structures) have strengthening the education offered to all students as the only priority.</p>
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		<title>By: AC Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livegreen:

I concur that a GATE program will not resolve all problems; however, what I would like is differentiated instruction.  The question has been posed on this blog about differentiated instruction...what it means, how is it accomplished, etc. GATE can certainly be an element of how OUSD attempts to address the needs of all of its students, but it is by no means an end all be all solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livegreen:</p>
<p>I concur that a GATE program will not resolve all problems; however, what I would like is differentiated instruction.  The question has been posed on this blog about differentiated instruction&#8230;what it means, how is it accomplished, etc. GATE can certainly be an element of how OUSD attempts to address the needs of all of its students, but it is by no means an end all be all solution.</p>
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		<title>By: AnaParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnaParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catherine is absolutely right. If adults aren&#039;t behaving responsibly, the rest is moot. I wonder if such people exist en masse at any particular school or any given demographic. In other words, there&#039;s no way that would happen consistently at a hills school. The principal and the parents would confront the malingerers. But, more importantly, the TEACHERS would not stand for it. They usually hold each other to a more professional standard. In the flatlands you can dress like a hippie, come late, sip your latte&#039;, yell at students, talk on your cell phone during class, and have the reasonable expectation that nobody will say anything publicly or privately.  Teachers need to hold each other to basic standards, otherwise it all becomes a shell game. Same with principals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine is absolutely right. If adults aren&#8217;t behaving responsibly, the rest is moot. I wonder if such people exist en masse at any particular school or any given demographic. In other words, there&#8217;s no way that would happen consistently at a hills school. The principal and the parents would confront the malingerers. But, more importantly, the TEACHERS would not stand for it. They usually hold each other to a more professional standard. In the flatlands you can dress like a hippie, come late, sip your latte&#8217;, yell at students, talk on your cell phone during class, and have the reasonable expectation that nobody will say anything publicly or privately.  Teachers need to hold each other to basic standards, otherwise it all becomes a shell game. Same with principals.</p>
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		<title>By: Livegreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catherine, How does a school get $10,400 in funding when others r gtg $6500?
Is it all FRL or other?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine, How does a school get $10,400 in funding when others r gtg $6500?<br />
Is it all FRL or other?</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point Catherine, hopefully people will finally come to the realization that we cannot modify or fix people&#039;s behavior, and or equalize position in life through money(taxation). People need to stand up and do for themselves, like Cosby said &quot;among the worst kind of child abuse is having children when you cannot even take care of yourself&quot;. We cannot fix the perceived unfairness in life, people need to do that for themselves. Personal responsibility is no longer expected from anyone, and hasn&#039;t been for a while, it&#039;s all about the mindset of &quot;getting what&#039;s mine&quot; even if it means stealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Catherine, hopefully people will finally come to the realization that we cannot modify or fix people&#8217;s behavior, and or equalize position in life through money(taxation). People need to stand up and do for themselves, like Cosby said &#8220;among the worst kind of child abuse is having children when you cannot even take care of yourself&#8221;. We cannot fix the perceived unfairness in life, people need to do that for themselves. Personal responsibility is no longer expected from anyone, and hasn&#8217;t been for a while, it&#8217;s all about the mindset of &#8220;getting what&#8217;s mine&#8221; even if it means stealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OUSD Parent and Livegreen: There is a school five miles from Thornhill that receives approximately the same amount that Thornhill spends on the library, computer lab, classroom aides and extras, except they chose to spend the money on one full time and one part time security guard, one truant officer (although I believe the position is referred to as attendance support - of which the increase in average daily attendance covers about half of the cost), iPads for the teachers, a computer repair person, after school sports and class sizes of a maximum of 22 students. The school had a card of 36 MAC laptops with a charging station. Within one year they were down to fewer than 20 because the remainder were stolen. The school chooses not to have a full time librarian and teachers choose not to pay the part of librarian.

I think that when we talk about equity we should say that education is the job of our schools. Education includes a library BEFORE funding sports. Education includes art, science and music for all students BEFORE hiring onsite truant officers. When we have after school programs, the people who interact with students and help them with their homework should speak standard academic English rather than slang. 

It is equitable that we hold students accountable for their behavior. When we do, we should not require a security guard for the kindergarten through second grade wing of a school. The same school of which I speak has had at least three parents who have been found with stolen electronics from the school. That is not fair and not equitable either. 

The money that is available for Thornhill is about $6,500 per student. The PTA and parent funding add about another $1,000 per student. The school five miles away receives $10,400 per student from the district (state) and federal government. 

There is a moral dilemma, when goods such as library books, audio books, computers are bought and stolen or people are hired and do not show up on time or do not work a full day yet are not disciplined, how many times do the items get to be replaced, more workers hired and so on before we say, &quot;enough!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUSD Parent and Livegreen: There is a school five miles from Thornhill that receives approximately the same amount that Thornhill spends on the library, computer lab, classroom aides and extras, except they chose to spend the money on one full time and one part time security guard, one truant officer (although I believe the position is referred to as attendance support &#8211; of which the increase in average daily attendance covers about half of the cost), iPads for the teachers, a computer repair person, after school sports and class sizes of a maximum of 22 students. The school had a card of 36 MAC laptops with a charging station. Within one year they were down to fewer than 20 because the remainder were stolen. The school chooses not to have a full time librarian and teachers choose not to pay the part of librarian.</p>
<p>I think that when we talk about equity we should say that education is the job of our schools. Education includes a library BEFORE funding sports. Education includes art, science and music for all students BEFORE hiring onsite truant officers. When we have after school programs, the people who interact with students and help them with their homework should speak standard academic English rather than slang. </p>
<p>It is equitable that we hold students accountable for their behavior. When we do, we should not require a security guard for the kindergarten through second grade wing of a school. The same school of which I speak has had at least three parents who have been found with stolen electronics from the school. That is not fair and not equitable either. </p>
<p>The money that is available for Thornhill is about $6,500 per student. The PTA and parent funding add about another $1,000 per student. The school five miles away receives $10,400 per student from the district (state) and federal government. </p>
<p>There is a moral dilemma, when goods such as library books, audio books, computers are bought and stolen or people are hired and do not show up on time or do not work a full day yet are not disciplined, how many times do the items get to be replaced, more workers hired and so on before we say, &#8220;enough!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OUSD Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>OUSD Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh. But I am not advocating that at all! I&#039;m just stating that it is not fair and it is not equitable. It&#039;s not fair to the schools that don&#039;t have private resources available to them and it&#039;s not fair to the families that fork out a boat load of additional money, on top of very high property taxes, to provide the level of education that will enable their kids to compete (hopefully) in which ever path they choose in life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. But I am not advocating that at all! I&#8217;m just stating that it is not fair and it is not equitable. It&#8217;s not fair to the schools that don&#8217;t have private resources available to them and it&#8217;s not fair to the families that fork out a boat load of additional money, on top of very high property taxes, to provide the level of education that will enable their kids to compete (hopefully) in which ever path they choose in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Livegreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not fair, but this is a nationwide and statewide problem. Does that mean taking away the grant or PTA money from individual programs?  Anyway that is exactly why OUSD is taking money away from fully enrolled schools to give to underenrolled schools.

So OUSD is already doing what you advocate, to level the playing field.  They&#039;re just not telling anybody...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not fair, but this is a nationwide and statewide problem. Does that mean taking away the grant or PTA money from individual programs?  Anyway that is exactly why OUSD is taking money away from fully enrolled schools to give to underenrolled schools.</p>
<p>So OUSD is already doing what you advocate, to level the playing field.  They&#8217;re just not telling anybody&#8230;</p>
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