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	<title>Comments on: KQED holds town hall in Oakland Tuesday about the dropout crisis</title>
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		<title>By: oaklandedlandscape</title>
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		<dc:creator>oaklandedlandscape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many success stories in Oakland.  Schools with high graduation and college matriculation rates.  Why not invite them to see what is working?  Seems simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many success stories in Oakland.  Schools with high graduation and college matriculation rates.  Why not invite them to see what is working?  Seems simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Oaklander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oaklander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Live Green and Anita - I fully agree. The conversation focused on so many issues on the periphery, that we barely spoke about the actual topic - the dropout crisis! The format was ineffective, as it allowed small issues take the reigns like Vitamin D Deficiency (which I recognize is a factor, but it got way too much airtime!)

I was particularly disappointed by the lack of conversation around academics and literacy. These are the foundations that pre-k, elementary, and even middle schools must lay so that we PREVENT the dropout crisis. Kids have to be able to read in order for teachers to invest them in topics of their interest which will keep them in school and inspire them to graduate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live Green and Anita &#8211; I fully agree. The conversation focused on so many issues on the periphery, that we barely spoke about the actual topic &#8211; the dropout crisis! The format was ineffective, as it allowed small issues take the reigns like Vitamin D Deficiency (which I recognize is a factor, but it got way too much airtime!)</p>
<p>I was particularly disappointed by the lack of conversation around academics and literacy. These are the foundations that pre-k, elementary, and even middle schools must lay so that we PREVENT the dropout crisis. Kids have to be able to read in order for teachers to invest them in topics of their interest which will keep them in school and inspire them to graduate.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy, do you know if and when and where the video will be made available again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy, do you know if and when and where the video will be made available again?</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I attended last night but was disappointed. Most people who took up the limited microphone time were non-teachers. If might have been more successful as a &quot;Teacher Town Hall&quot; if KQED had managed who got to speak and given a limit to the amount of time people could speak...or even better screened people&#039;s questions and comments via index cards etc....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended last night but was disappointed. Most people who took up the limited microphone time were non-teachers. If might have been more successful as a &#8220;Teacher Town Hall&#8221; if KQED had managed who got to speak and given a limit to the amount of time people could speak&#8230;or even better screened people&#8217;s questions and comments via index cards etc&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Livegreen</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2012/03/12/kqed-holds-town-hall-in-oakland-tuesday-about-the-dropout-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-49798</link>
		<dc:creator>Livegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This town hall was unimpressive.  Almost no discussion about what works and can be expanded.  Almost all talk on what isn&#039;t.  The few suggestions mentioned were general like mentorship and asking students to give more input.

Both the panel and the comments were underimpressive...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This town hall was unimpressive.  Almost no discussion about what works and can be expanded.  Almost all talk on what isn&#8217;t.  The few suggestions mentioned were general like mentorship and asking students to give more input.</p>
<p>Both the panel and the comments were underimpressive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: makeitgoaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>makeitgoaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Studies show that dropouts establish no connection with the school- no clubs, no favorite teachers, no sports, no attendance at dances or sporting events, etc.  High School can be a sad and damaging place for some...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studies show that dropouts establish no connection with the school- no clubs, no favorite teachers, no sports, no attendance at dances or sporting events, etc.  High School can be a sad and damaging place for some&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The event just started. You can watch it, live, here: 

http://blogs.kqed.org/americangraduate/2012/03/12/watch-live-kqed-teacher-town-hall/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The event just started. You can watch it, live, here: </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.kqed.org/americangraduate/2012/03/12/watch-live-kqed-teacher-town-hall/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kqed.org/americangraduate/2012/03/12/watch-live-kqed-teacher-town-hall/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What crisis?

The educrats want to operate concentration camps with barbed wire where they are granted the power to intern people and hold them prisoner under whatever conditions they please to have. 

Too Bad, So Sad. People vote with their feet.

In every single school I attended - my family attended - we were there because we were proud to be there and to be accepted. And that worked both ways - the schools knew there were worse students waiting to get in. If we decided to move elsewhere they&#039;d have to see what was available to replace us and collect the tuition from (the church schools). It was a mutually satisfactory arrangement. I went to real schools.

So if OUSD and the other urban schools cause their students to flee that is no crisis in my book. Cut their funding, fire their staff and reduce the urban schools further.

And another thing - if the chillun do not want the education the school is selling, that&#039;s not a crisis either. You don&#039;t need an &quot;education&quot; to be a welfare mother or a prison inmate - or to be dead at 28.

If society wants to run a welfare state, don&#039;t come crying to me that (some of) the chillun don&#039;t see a need to attend classes.

It is never a crisis when things occur that were engendered by the complainers.

Brave New World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What crisis?</p>
<p>The educrats want to operate concentration camps with barbed wire where they are granted the power to intern people and hold them prisoner under whatever conditions they please to have. </p>
<p>Too Bad, So Sad. People vote with their feet.</p>
<p>In every single school I attended &#8211; my family attended &#8211; we were there because we were proud to be there and to be accepted. And that worked both ways &#8211; the schools knew there were worse students waiting to get in. If we decided to move elsewhere they&#8217;d have to see what was available to replace us and collect the tuition from (the church schools). It was a mutually satisfactory arrangement. I went to real schools.</p>
<p>So if OUSD and the other urban schools cause their students to flee that is no crisis in my book. Cut their funding, fire their staff and reduce the urban schools further.</p>
<p>And another thing &#8211; if the chillun do not want the education the school is selling, that&#8217;s not a crisis either. You don&#8217;t need an &#8220;education&#8221; to be a welfare mother or a prison inmate &#8211; or to be dead at 28.</p>
<p>If society wants to run a welfare state, don&#8217;t come crying to me that (some of) the chillun don&#8217;t see a need to attend classes.</p>
<p>It is never a crisis when things occur that were engendered by the complainers.</p>
<p>Brave New World.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katy, here&#039;s a story tip: Emeryville&#039;s new supe is slashing staff and the community is up and arms -- they had a juicy board meeting tonight.

She claims declining enrollment (which teachers say is because of lack of promotion, since E-ville relies on out-of-district transfers) and budget crisis is responsible. Others say her m.o. (and basis of her master&#039;s thesis) is to RIF and non-re-elect as many teachers as she can so she can rebuild financially with cheap beginners. She did this at Castlemont a bit back, and we can all see how well that has gone (viz., previous thread).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katy, here&#8217;s a story tip: Emeryville&#8217;s new supe is slashing staff and the community is up and arms &#8212; they had a juicy board meeting tonight.</p>
<p>She claims declining enrollment (which teachers say is because of lack of promotion, since E-ville relies on out-of-district transfers) and budget crisis is responsible. Others say her m.o. (and basis of her master&#8217;s thesis) is to RIF and non-re-elect as many teachers as she can so she can rebuild financially with cheap beginners. She did this at Castlemont a bit back, and we can all see how well that has gone (viz., previous thread).</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The schools with the high drop-out rates need significantly more adults staffing them. 

It is relatively straightforward to teach large classes of middle-class kids who have support at home. The higher the student ratio, of course, the harder it is, but ultimately you can give assignments and expect them to have them completed, and attendance is on the parents, not you.

At a school for the children of the working poor and the unemployed, students need parenting, psychological intervention, significant discipline, truancy interventions, and consistent relationships with firm yet caring adults OR THEY WILL QUIT because so many of them see no future.

A first step toward this is a significant rerouting of state education monies to the schools with the poor children. It is not enough to get some added federal monies -- if you want to stop the drop-out rate, you have to acknowledge it is significantly more expensive to effectively teach those not receiving support at home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The schools with the high drop-out rates need significantly more adults staffing them. </p>
<p>It is relatively straightforward to teach large classes of middle-class kids who have support at home. The higher the student ratio, of course, the harder it is, but ultimately you can give assignments and expect them to have them completed, and attendance is on the parents, not you.</p>
<p>At a school for the children of the working poor and the unemployed, students need parenting, psychological intervention, significant discipline, truancy interventions, and consistent relationships with firm yet caring adults OR THEY WILL QUIT because so many of them see no future.</p>
<p>A first step toward this is a significant rerouting of state education monies to the schools with the poor children. It is not enough to get some added federal monies &#8212; if you want to stop the drop-out rate, you have to acknowledge it is significantly more expensive to effectively teach those not receiving support at home.</p>
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