Comments on: Oakland’s Lakeview Elementary, unoccupied

By: J.R.

J.R. — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:34:56 +0000

Nextset,
I agree with you on the horrid “self-esteem”,”social justice”, no consequence doctrine of liberal thought. Pathetic liberal policy has left California (once the frontrunner in education) a battered and beaten morass of mediocrity. Don’t forget that irresponsible people(enabled and encouraged by public assistance) have become a major Democratic constituency that is numerically substantial. We all reap what we sow, and destruction is the self induced destiny of many.

By: Nextset

Nextset — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:11:38 +0000

Cadnerd:

You seem to think there is a difference between failing schools and failing students. Look at your post above. Do you not realize that tranferring in failed students turns what was a good school into an at-risk school – likely to be a failed school?

Or do you think it’s the dirt and the walls at a school that bring on failure?

Willy Nilly placement of students without regard to aptitude or cognitive ability IS WHY THESE SCHOOLS FAIL.

It is the principal reason why the schools fail – secondary to that is that the students are taught it’s OK not to perform by the absence of consequences for failure. A principal consequence is supposed to be removal to a continuation school at some point. That’s apparently gone now.

I’m voting against the tax increases this November and so is everyone else I know. Giving more money to these failure factories – and that includes UC and the colleges – is not the answer. They have enough money. They need to change their ways if they want to return to the glory days of the 1960s where CA schools were seen as an engine of the economy.

We need a return to tracking, a return to flunking, a return to enforced deportment rules, and a concentration on math, science, languages and public school coursework that matches military, industrial and higher ed prerequisites.

By: Cadnerd

Cadnerd — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:33:23 +0000

Even if it doesn’t save any money closing failing schools and moving the children to good ones makes sense. Lakeview is one of the worst schools in the state and the students will be going to schools that are far better.

By: J.R.

J.R. — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:04:57 +0000

Seenit,
So, you think just because the tax money had rolled in for decades(irregardless of whether or not schools are performing their all important mandate of educating kids), that is to be considered stable? I have news for you, many parts of the public school system have been destabilized for decades before anyone ever heard of reformers.

By: EffectsofReform

EffectsofReform — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:32:33 +0000

Thank you, Katy for continuing to ask about the “savings.”

By: Seenitbefore

Seenitbefore — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:38:25 +0000

it’s not about saving money….it’s about destabilizing the public school system in a large, urban area so that charters will be seen as “the answer”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/29/mitt-romney-says-students-should-get-as-much-education-as-they-can-afford_n_1638896.html

By: makeitgoaway

makeitgoaway — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 01:38:12 +0000

Quixotic?