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	<title>Comments on: A rough start for Oakland&#8217;s special education students</title>
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	<description>Katy Murphy&#039;s blog on Oakland schools</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2012/09/17/a-rough-start-for-oaklands-special-education-students/comment-page-1/#comment-57305</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15 students in a Special Day Class sounds terrible, especially with three different grade levels, and what is likely a huge mix of disabilities. 

Isn&#039;t this exactly what the school board said should not happen? Isn&#039;t that why they reinstated money to the budget last year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 students in a Special Day Class sounds terrible, especially with three different grade levels, and what is likely a huge mix of disabilities. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this exactly what the school board said should not happen? Isn&#8217;t that why they reinstated money to the budget last year?</p>
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		<title>By: Special Ed Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Special Ed Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the staffed side of the Special Day experience: we are drowning by degrees.

My child&#039;s SDC started the year with 12 students--unprecedented for this program in past years but within advisable limits.

Then, there were 13, then 14, then 15...

The classroom, which has diverse disability needs including some children with behavioral support needs and on the autism spectrum has only a handful of students less than the General Ed classrooms and it is supposed to teach to 3 grade levels.

These are students who can come close to grade level work with a carefully constructed setting, a small enough grouping and specialized support.

Our community has our work cut out in reversing these trends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the staffed side of the Special Day experience: we are drowning by degrees.</p>
<p>My child&#8217;s SDC started the year with 12 students&#8211;unprecedented for this program in past years but within advisable limits.</p>
<p>Then, there were 13, then 14, then 15&#8230;</p>
<p>The classroom, which has diverse disability needs including some children with behavioral support needs and on the autism spectrum has only a handful of students less than the General Ed classrooms and it is supposed to teach to 3 grade levels.</p>
<p>These are students who can come close to grade level work with a carefully constructed setting, a small enough grouping and specialized support.</p>
<p>Our community has our work cut out in reversing these trends.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have heard that there are several schools who are completely unstaffed by special ed. 

Unfortunately, PEC is going to have a hard time finding qualified teachers at this time of year. Other districts advertise in the early spring for the following year. They also pay higher salaries than here to their teachers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard that there are several schools who are completely unstaffed by special ed. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, PEC is going to have a hard time finding qualified teachers at this time of year. Other districts advertise in the early spring for the following year. They also pay higher salaries than here to their teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Turanga_Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turanga_Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 04:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The union issue is a NONISSUE here, kids.

If you want to make noise, let&#039;s talk special education teacher attrition and the difficulty of finding qualified people to fill vacancies in PEC.

Glad to hear that your son&#039;s classroom is staffed, SpedMom--to my knowledge, there are still a few that aren&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The union issue is a NONISSUE here, kids.</p>
<p>If you want to make noise, let&#8217;s talk special education teacher attrition and the difficulty of finding qualified people to fill vacancies in PEC.</p>
<p>Glad to hear that your son&#8217;s classroom is staffed, SpedMom&#8211;to my knowledge, there are still a few that aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: SpedMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpedMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 02:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who knew the sub issue whould bring up such debate...
I am happy to say, my son started his day with a &quot;sped credentialed sub&quot; who will stay the length of his teacher&#039;s leave....I have yet to see her true skills, but it&#039;s a start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knew the sub issue whould bring up such debate&#8230;<br />
I am happy to say, my son started his day with a &#8220;sped credentialed sub&#8221; who will stay the length of his teacher&#8217;s leave&#8230;.I have yet to see her true skills, but it&#8217;s a start.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be clear - substitutes are also union members of completely equal standing to assigned teachers. Many substitutes are former or retired teachers.

Get over it. This is not a function of the teachers union, no matter how much you want to blame this on teachers and or unions. 

The union does not have the kind of power you ascribe to it. Look to the administration for not adequately preparing for credentialed personal and to the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear &#8211; substitutes are also union members of completely equal standing to assigned teachers. Many substitutes are former or retired teachers.</p>
<p>Get over it. This is not a function of the teachers union, no matter how much you want to blame this on teachers and or unions. </p>
<p>The union does not have the kind of power you ascribe to it. Look to the administration for not adequately preparing for credentialed personal and to the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nontcair:  You may not like Unions but you cannot prevent a free people from organizing and bargaining collectively.

Ditto public unions.

Of course the employers are free to seek other workers.

It&#039;s all good. 

And as far as working within a legal system goes...  When you&#039;re not King, you can&#039;t dictate...

It&#039;s difficult I know to have to work with others, but there it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nontcair:  You may not like Unions but you cannot prevent a free people from organizing and bargaining collectively.</p>
<p>Ditto public unions.</p>
<p>Of course the employers are free to seek other workers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all good. </p>
<p>And as far as working within a legal system goes&#8230;  When you&#8217;re not King, you can&#8217;t dictate&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult I know to have to work with others, but there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nontcair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nontcair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe private unions are a nuisance to be avoided. Like high fructose corn syrup.

I believe *public* unions should be &lt;B&gt;banned&lt;/B&gt;.

Nobody can force me to purchase a product that contains the union label.

Public unions work to &lt;B&gt;force&lt;/B&gt; me to pay higher taxes to support their contracts.

That&#039;s a big difference.

#14&#039;s sad story is a consequence of the schools having been politicized by the special interests about &lt;B&gt;175&lt;/B&gt; years ago. 

Other legacies of that era include the teachers union and that monstrosity known as the &quot;education code&quot;.

This blog seems to be dominated by those who believe that opinions issued by socialist judges are incontrovertible and conclusive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe private unions are a nuisance to be avoided. Like high fructose corn syrup.</p>
<p>I believe *public* unions should be <b>banned</b>.</p>
<p>Nobody can force me to purchase a product that contains the union label.</p>
<p>Public unions work to <b>force</b> me to pay higher taxes to support their contracts.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a big difference.</p>
<p>#14&#8242;s sad story is a consequence of the schools having been politicized by the special interests about <b>175</b> years ago. </p>
<p>Other legacies of that era include the teachers union and that monstrosity known as the &#8220;education code&#8221;.</p>
<p>This blog seems to be dominated by those who believe that opinions issued by socialist judges are incontrovertible and conclusive.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[None of the rules/regulations around credentialing are set by teachers unions. They are set by state ed code, completely independently of unions.

The Williams Case, which prevents substitutes from filling positions is the most important civil rights case in education since Brown vs Board of Education. I suggest you do some reading. It had nothing to do with teachers unions; it was filed by the ACLU on behalf of a student.

Please do your research before you post inaccurate rants. Now we know that you are just another teacher and union hater, and will turn any topic into being about your hate. This blog was about special education students in Oakland who are not receiving the education they are entitled to. 

Please take your bile somewhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the rules/regulations around credentialing are set by teachers unions. They are set by state ed code, completely independently of unions.</p>
<p>The Williams Case, which prevents substitutes from filling positions is the most important civil rights case in education since Brown vs Board of Education. I suggest you do some reading. It had nothing to do with teachers unions; it was filed by the ACLU on behalf of a student.</p>
<p>Please do your research before you post inaccurate rants. Now we know that you are just another teacher and union hater, and will turn any topic into being about your hate. This blog was about special education students in Oakland who are not receiving the education they are entitled to. </p>
<p>Please take your bile somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Nontcair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nontcair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#20 wrote: &lt;I&gt;You use an argument that is completely irrelevant in this case&lt;/I&gt;

Of course the union will not be fully satisfied until it can fill that position &lt;I&gt;with a *member*&lt;/I&gt;. It can tolerate filling the position with a non-member who holds a credential since such a candidate would not put downward pressure on wages; union penetration is still large enough that credentialing means OUSD will *always* have little choice but to hire union teachers in its traditional schools.

There&#039;s the monopoly.

It&#039;s really disgusting how the union will NOT tolerate #14&#039;s (or anyone else&#039;s) kid having lengthy  continuity without that candidate possessing a &quot;credential&quot;. It is a mystery to me why so many parents continue to support teacher credentialing.

For that matter I don&#039;t understand why they support all the other forms of &lt;B&gt;protectionism&lt;/B&gt; for the teachers union, such as: 

#1) The 180 day, six+ hour per day school &quot;year&quot;
#2) mandated curricula
#3) compulsory attendance
#4) civil service (&quot;merit&quot;) employment laws
#5) collective bargaining for public unions

etc and so forth, all of which serve no purpose except to:

artifically *spike* demand
restrict supply
make it next to *impossible* to fire someone
keep wages at above-market levels]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 wrote: <i>You use an argument that is completely irrelevant in this case</i></p>
<p>Of course the union will not be fully satisfied until it can fill that position <i>with a *member*</i>. It can tolerate filling the position with a non-member who holds a credential since such a candidate would not put downward pressure on wages; union penetration is still large enough that credentialing means OUSD will *always* have little choice but to hire union teachers in its traditional schools.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the monopoly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really disgusting how the union will NOT tolerate #14&#8242;s (or anyone else&#8217;s) kid having lengthy  continuity without that candidate possessing a &#8220;credential&#8221;. It is a mystery to me why so many parents continue to support teacher credentialing.</p>
<p>For that matter I don&#8217;t understand why they support all the other forms of <b>protectionism</b> for the teachers union, such as: </p>
<p>#1) The 180 day, six+ hour per day school &#8220;year&#8221;<br />
#2) mandated curricula<br />
#3) compulsory attendance<br />
#4) civil service (&#8220;merit&#8221;) employment laws<br />
#5) collective bargaining for public unions</p>
<p>etc and so forth, all of which serve no purpose except to:</p>
<p>artifically *spike* demand<br />
restrict supply<br />
make it next to *impossible* to fire someone<br />
keep wages at above-market levels</p>
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