I *always* felt forced. Naturally. Compulsory attendance has been in effect fpr a LONG time.

It was my impression that many of my classmates couldn’t have cared less, but for one reason or another, showed up anyway. Certainly as they grew older the social scene and somebody else’s money (often their parent’s) was what kept them going.

I have to ask, when your parents paid for your private schooling, was there ever a day that you felt forced to go or were you enthusiastic about your private, funded by your family through monies they made under completely independent circumstances? Seems to me every kid at least goes through a phase of not wanting to go to school.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-mom-glued-daughters-hands-wall-99-years/story?id=17436643#.UHif3a7hcwQ

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/14654409-418/mother-toddler-dead-in-new-jersey-decapitation-suicide.html

It is quite possible most of the [OUSD] students who are truant and engage in fights can benefit from classes that focus on violence avoidance.

Once again we see a pro-government, MSM outlet proposing that the solution to a problem caused by forcing kids to show for school is to force them to take violence avoidance classes as well. Which should work about as well as the sex-ed and DARE classes already inflicted upon them.

Unbelievable.

Is it any wonder that readership is dropping exponentially?

Likewise, #17 was being taught to never question the logic of the System, but rather to work “within it” to make it “better”.

Of course he was never taught the *true* history of public education in this country. How it was:

based on a rigid, Prussian (pro-state) model
formed as a reaction to the emergence of *Catholic* schools
instituted to pursue fanatical egalitarian notions

IOW, a system of beliefs held dear by a faction of socialist Protestants, to be inculcated on everyone else and at their (the victims) expense.

http://www.examiner.com/article/suspensions-and-truancy-oakland

They would have preferred we use it for good.

The point is we were not being taught to be unemployable, in prison or on welfare – or otherwise to be dependent on the mercy of others more powerful.

My school was no different that most other white schools of the day. I have never attended a black school. May parents and grandparents and so on attended segregated black schools all their lives (and taught in them). And even then they were send into the professions. When they relocated to California after WWII they made a decision to put us into white schools and white neighborhoods thinking we’d have more opportunities. They had no idea I’d vote for Romney. Or that intermarriage would become the norm. Unintended consequences.

As far as Nontclair’s belief that Public Education has always been about… this is another reflection of his age, immaturity and lack of exposure to history. Too bad he won’t tell us more about himself so we can get a better idea of where his born-yesterday points of view originate. Did he go to black schools?

It is only relatively lately that Libs decided to use the (eternally?) segregated black schools to raise generations of unemployable, weak, coddled and uneducated blacks.

As a nearly 90 year old relative mentioned last week, “We had segregated schools, but they were GOOD segregated schools.”

Brave New World.

Public education has *always* been about training kids to become compliant ADULTS, ie unwilling to oppose the government and unable to question it.

That’s why I asked what other forms of coercion (punishment) she would like the schools to test out. For instance,

medications
dunce caps
stocks

It’s particularly outrageous that she (almost certainly) wants to *force* kids to show up. Their very natural (disruptive) reactions inside the classroom ensure that she’ll always have a nice sized sample of subjects to experiment on.

Bad, boy, bad boy what you going to do?
Because they are not going to suspend you.

OCR suspension suspended
Punked by OCR.

OCR ignored forty charters
Feeding charter school enrollment.

Golden rule days, black board jungle,
charter schools pimping public coin,
School days, not so Golden Rule Days.

Jim Mordecai

We are very wrong to expect the black kids to behave. After all, for the most part they didn’t beg to get into the school and don’t really want to be there anyway.

Maybe the solution is to drop compulsory education after puberty , age 9 or so or blacks, and only let them into school is the beg pretty please to attend. Those that are accepted probably would behave better.

Kind of like having to apply for Bishop O’Dowd. After getting in there you are not likely to tell staff to f themselves. They have a wait list.

I’d suggest having a default school with severe corporal punishment and the better schools, more pleasant, by application and merit.

And let the parent choose where to apply for their chillun. Or they can always homeschool them. Maybe that can be the default with school being optional and by accepted application.

Either way I agree it’s very wrong to keep brats in school when they don’t want to be there. I agree with Nontclair.

You want to force other people’s kids to show up, too. It’s unclear what you expect them to learn, but it’s a safe bet that the doctrine is something *you* approve of. You also want them to behave in a way that *you* approve of — OR ELSE.

And of course you want *me* to pay for it.

But DON’T EVER call that social engineering.