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	<title>Comments on: The NRA calls for an armed officer in every school</title>
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		<title>By: Juanster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DEMAND A PLAN! (Warning: Contains gratuitous violence!)
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		<title>By: Charlie at Bridge the Chasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie at Bridge the Chasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barbara Boxer (I believe) in proposing gun control legislation sighted some interesting statistics.  Last year (or some recent year) there were ~9,600 gun related murders in the US.  Since and including Columbine, there have been close to 300 deaths by someone with a gun killing at a school (includes Virginia Tech and IKOS (sp?) in Oakland).  If the Colorado Movie theatre, the Gabby Giffords event and similar killings are included I&#039;m sure the number would be 500 senseless, horrible deaths.  Of the 9,600 gun murders per year 60-90% are in the inner city.  At 6,000 per year, 84,000 have ben killed in the inner city.  In addition to the killings, there have probably been 1,000,000 inner city youth who were arrested for their first felony, including off the charts aggravated assaults, armed robberies and rapes.

Maybe gun control is good, maybe not.  Either way, the 1,000 (is it only 500?) African American boys who drop out of Oakland Schools each year because they have learned virtually nothing, will have no future and are effectively &quot;dead&quot; when they drop out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Boxer (I believe) in proposing gun control legislation sighted some interesting statistics.  Last year (or some recent year) there were ~9,600 gun related murders in the US.  Since and including Columbine, there have been close to 300 deaths by someone with a gun killing at a school (includes Virginia Tech and IKOS (sp?) in Oakland).  If the Colorado Movie theatre, the Gabby Giffords event and similar killings are included I&#8217;m sure the number would be 500 senseless, horrible deaths.  Of the 9,600 gun murders per year 60-90% are in the inner city.  At 6,000 per year, 84,000 have ben killed in the inner city.  In addition to the killings, there have probably been 1,000,000 inner city youth who were arrested for their first felony, including off the charts aggravated assaults, armed robberies and rapes.</p>
<p>Maybe gun control is good, maybe not.  Either way, the 1,000 (is it only 500?) African American boys who drop out of Oakland Schools each year because they have learned virtually nothing, will have no future and are effectively &#8220;dead&#8221; when they drop out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nextset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nextset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 05:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phone 911 and you get put on hold.  Then told to file your story with online reporting.

I was recently talking to a silly woman who thought we should just ban rifles...

Ask the Koreans how important their guns (assault weapons) were during the Rodney King Riots. And ask them if the police ran in to protect them.  Ask the same questions to the victims of the rape/robbery gangs at the Katrina Riots.

Handguns have a place in the scheme of things but you need an assault rifle for home protection (Shotguns with a variety of loads are nice but clumsy). Smart money is under no illusion of what &quot;protection&quot; you can expect from 911 in the event of a civil disaster/disorder. In case you haven&#039;t heard, there is a run going on for these guns. 

It is abundantly clear that this government will not maintain order any more - especially in a black/urban/leftist mob situation. Some of you may have known people who got their rifles and went to their buildings to stand guard during the Occupy Oakland rioting. In LA the Koreans go to their rooftops. They will be able to kill anyone approaching their buildings with a lit firebomb. 911 won&#039;t be there.

 Back to the school situation. Again, many childen are not high value and nobody is going to spend police officer money protecting them. Many children are (high value) and they will be protected - already are. We know which animals are worth more then which - and their cars too.  And by &quot;high value&quot; I mean high value to people who count (generally not a bunch of single mothers and their fan base).

As far as putting armed peace officers in &quot;every&quot; school - including the low value population&#039;s schools - never going to happen. You know why? because the police aren&#039;t wanted and no one is going to pay to send them where they aren&#039;t wanted anyway.

If the cops are in the school it throws a huge wet blanket on all the typical behavior such as drunk parent coming around to curse out the teachers, all the criminal threats against teachers and staff, narcotics and contraband, sexual activity and all the endless lifestyle choices that are incompatible with a peace officer presence. 

So even thought the teachers might want it, the students and their parent won&#039;t.  Gotta keep it real you know!

Save the cops for the white schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phone 911 and you get put on hold.  Then told to file your story with online reporting.</p>
<p>I was recently talking to a silly woman who thought we should just ban rifles&#8230;</p>
<p>Ask the Koreans how important their guns (assault weapons) were during the Rodney King Riots. And ask them if the police ran in to protect them.  Ask the same questions to the victims of the rape/robbery gangs at the Katrina Riots.</p>
<p>Handguns have a place in the scheme of things but you need an assault rifle for home protection (Shotguns with a variety of loads are nice but clumsy). Smart money is under no illusion of what &#8220;protection&#8221; you can expect from 911 in the event of a civil disaster/disorder. In case you haven&#8217;t heard, there is a run going on for these guns. </p>
<p>It is abundantly clear that this government will not maintain order any more &#8211; especially in a black/urban/leftist mob situation. Some of you may have known people who got their rifles and went to their buildings to stand guard during the Occupy Oakland rioting. In LA the Koreans go to their rooftops. They will be able to kill anyone approaching their buildings with a lit firebomb. 911 won&#8217;t be there.</p>
<p> Back to the school situation. Again, many childen are not high value and nobody is going to spend police officer money protecting them. Many children are (high value) and they will be protected &#8211; already are. We know which animals are worth more then which &#8211; and their cars too.  And by &#8220;high value&#8221; I mean high value to people who count (generally not a bunch of single mothers and their fan base).</p>
<p>As far as putting armed peace officers in &#8220;every&#8221; school &#8211; including the low value population&#8217;s schools &#8211; never going to happen. You know why? because the police aren&#8217;t wanted and no one is going to pay to send them where they aren&#8217;t wanted anyway.</p>
<p>If the cops are in the school it throws a huge wet blanket on all the typical behavior such as drunk parent coming around to curse out the teachers, all the criminal threats against teachers and staff, narcotics and contraband, sexual activity and all the endless lifestyle choices that are incompatible with a peace officer presence. </p>
<p>So even thought the teachers might want it, the students and their parent won&#8217;t.  Gotta keep it real you know!</p>
<p>Save the cops for the white schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Juanster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Harold, I was born and raised in Oakland. Maybe we unknowingly bumped into one another at the Eastmont Mall back in the day when you could go there during the day?  I once taught in a Richmond &#039;war zone&#039; not dissimilar from those found in Oakland, but maybe that was before those therein became &quot;tired of the violence&quot; - too tired&#039; to confront it in their own home with a gun from the night stand? Perhaps they&#039;re now soooo &#039;tired&#039; they don&#039;t mind falling to sleep and never waking up? 

Time to call it a night, or a day, or the end of a tired life too tired to fight? 

Phone 911 for the body bag.  

Nighty night Harold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harold, I was born and raised in Oakland. Maybe we unknowingly bumped into one another at the Eastmont Mall back in the day when you could go there during the day?  I once taught in a Richmond &#8216;war zone&#8217; not dissimilar from those found in Oakland, but maybe that was before those therein became &#8220;tired of the violence&#8221; &#8211; too tired&#8217; to confront it in their own home with a gun from the night stand? Perhaps they&#8217;re now soooo &#8216;tired&#8217; they don&#8217;t mind falling to sleep and never waking up? </p>
<p>Time to call it a night, or a day, or the end of a tired life too tired to fight? </p>
<p>Phone 911 for the body bag.  </p>
<p>Nighty night Harold.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Juanster - from what i know as a life-long Oakland resident and what i read in the BANG after each senseless murder in Oakland - you are wrong! People of tired of the violence and want as many guns off the streets (and bedroom dressers) as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Juanster &#8211; from what i know as a life-long Oakland resident and what i read in the BANG after each senseless murder in Oakland &#8211; you are wrong! People of tired of the violence and want as many guns off the streets (and bedroom dressers) as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Juanster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Ted, After reading your comments I was reminded of the following old quote from Don B. Kates, Jr.: 

&quot;Gun prohibition is the brainchild of white middle-class liberals who are oblivious to the situation of poor and minority people living in areas where the police have given up on crime control…. Secure in well-policed suburbs or high security apartments guarded by Pinkertons (whom no one proposes to disarm), the oblivious liberal derides gun ownership as “an anachronism from the Old West.”

Wyatt Earp indeed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ted, After reading your comments I was reminded of the following old quote from Don B. Kates, Jr.: </p>
<p>&#8220;Gun prohibition is the brainchild of white middle-class liberals who are oblivious to the situation of poor and minority people living in areas where the police have given up on crime control…. Secure in well-policed suburbs or high security apartments guarded by Pinkertons (whom no one proposes to disarm), the oblivious liberal derides gun ownership as “an anachronism from the Old West.”</p>
<p>Wyatt Earp indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Juanster, Ron Paul sez; Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place.
Just as the government cannot create a world without risk, arming every Wyatt Earp wanna-be will not make a world any safer either.  While the resulting weapons proliferation might reduce the number of school massacres, it will also produce more suicides, accidental shooting and shooting resulting from domestic incidents. Gun owners and Gun not-owners approach the issue from two different viewpoints that will need to be reconciled in order to reduce gun injuries. Gun owners like guns because it gives them a feeling of security and independence. For gun not-owners, guns are a form of oppression that replace the rule of law with rule of force.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juanster, Ron Paul sez; Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place.<br />
Just as the government cannot create a world without risk, arming every Wyatt Earp wanna-be will not make a world any safer either.  While the resulting weapons proliferation might reduce the number of school massacres, it will also produce more suicides, accidental shooting and shooting resulting from domestic incidents. Gun owners and Gun not-owners approach the issue from two different viewpoints that will need to be reconciled in order to reduce gun injuries. Gun owners like guns because it gives them a feeling of security and independence. For gun not-owners, guns are a form of oppression that replace the rule of law with rule of force.</p>
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		<title>By: Pollstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pollstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its like all regulations aimed at public schools.....as long as the rich do not send their kids there.

I bet parents cannot freely enter the Federal Dept of Ed, they will be confronted by guards, gums and metal detectors , but can anyone visit a school......you bet! In fact, through the guise of &quot;parent involvement&quot; where in the inner city can translate to just about anything such from drug drug peddler to pedophile.

Get rid of private schools then watch education become strong!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like all regulations aimed at public schools&#8230;..as long as the rich do not send their kids there.</p>
<p>I bet parents cannot freely enter the Federal Dept of Ed, they will be confronted by guards, gums and metal detectors , but can anyone visit a school&#8230;&#8230;you bet! In fact, through the guise of &#8220;parent involvement&#8221; where in the inner city can translate to just about anything such from drug drug peddler to pedophile.</p>
<p>Get rid of private schools then watch education become strong!</p>
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		<title>By: Juanster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 05:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Praise be! My worst fear is put to rest!  Not to worry folks, this school&#039;s over kill fire power puts the NRA recommendation to even more &#039;shame!&#039;  Those girl&#039;s, and their classmates, are surrounded by capable trigger fingers. Sleep well.  

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praise be! My worst fear is put to rest!  Not to worry folks, this school&#8217;s over kill fire power puts the NRA recommendation to even more &#8216;shame!&#8217;  Those girl&#8217;s, and their classmates, are surrounded by capable trigger fingers. Sleep well.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service" rel="nofollow">http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service</a></p>
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		<title>By: makeitgoaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>makeitgoaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have had  an SRO (police officer) on campus for the last 15 years paid for by the City- I am glad he is there....The difference from Colombine that so many have used as an example of police ineffectiveness is that no longer will police put up a perimeter first and then go in...  Instead they are trained  to neutralize (kill) the shooter.  

here&#039;s my solution.  don&#039;t allow Single Moms to bond with their disturbed young adult by buying guns and taking them to the shooting range and then to her job site.  What happened at Sandy Hook was a PARENTING problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had  an SRO (police officer) on campus for the last 15 years paid for by the City- I am glad he is there&#8230;.The difference from Colombine that so many have used as an example of police ineffectiveness is that no longer will police put up a perimeter first and then go in&#8230;  Instead they are trained  to neutralize (kill) the shooter.  </p>
<p>here&#8217;s my solution.  don&#8217;t allow Single Moms to bond with their disturbed young adult by buying guns and taking them to the shooting range and then to her job site.  What happened at Sandy Hook was a PARENTING problem.</p>
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